New headlights from where?

[UK9K]

Ok, I have fitted a HID to my car, I ended up taking the whole light unit out of both sides, and the aim was all over the place when I put them back in, so I asked the garage next door to align them for me.

The MOT guy came, took the car, and a few minutes later, came back and said he couldn't get the aim any higher, they had gone up as far as they would. I went to have a look at the beam aim scope, and the light's ' cloud ' was an inch under the permitted sight area.

So, any ideas? I have noticed there is like a rubber and metal grippy thing on the underside of the headlamp case, but there doesn't seem to be anywhere on the car metalwork under the headlamp for this clip to go onto. I'll take a pic later of the clip thing so you can see it.

Also, for those that fitted HID's, I have this other problem.

The lights come on ok when I rotate the headlight switch around to position 2, main beam. But with main beam on, and I put high beam on, the drivers side HID goes out, and stays out, but the passenger side stays on. When I turn the high beam off, the drivers side light stays off. I have to turn the headlight switch back down to sidelight, then main beam for both headlights to come on. Is there something wrong with the cars wiring?

I have 2 of these HID kits, and have tried switching ballasts round, and it's always the RHS headlight that goes out. I have switched the bulbs over too, but still the same. Has anyone else experienced this problem? I have also noticed that the LHS main beam glows brighter than the RHS headlight, even if I change the ballasts and the bulbs over from left to right.

I was thinking maybe because the chromed refelctor inside the lights are gone, maybe I should get a NEW pair of headlights, but GSF don't list them and Eurocarparts.com want 201 for the RHS and 215 for the LHS!!! Those are complete unit prices, which includes new glass too I think, but I don't really need the glass, I have 2 of each already. How much do Saab dealer want? The same? Is there anywhere else I can get new units cheaper?

[julianm]

Hello - I`ve the same probem - (no HID) & secondhand is the only other option - US havea good supplier but not for RHD!

[UK9K]

One of your main beams goes out when you turn on high beam? Is it the RHS of LHS?

I just had a look at the spare lights I have, and it's not a clip underneath, it's a drain hole!! So thats not it then.

[cambscarcrewsaab]

You may want to investigate all the supply connections for that RHS headlight. If a connection is a bit iffy the ballast may not have enough power to initiate that full beam and therefore kill the main beam.


As far as I know the relays under the bonnet can sometimes cause interesting problems, however I didn't think it supplyed the headlights seperately I thought it was just one output...

So.. something like that... :P

Lewis

[UK9K]

Thing is, I've got a spare used headlight relay block, the big red one, which I put in to check if that would make a difference, but it still did it. I know it's used, and could be doing it because it is used, not new. The big red relay block is the only headlight relay isn't it? There aren't others hidden are there?

Also, tonight, I took the car out onto an open stretch of straight road, and the spread pattern is practically non-existent. There are 2 oval spots of relly bright white light on the road, like spot lights, but the outside of these are very dimly lit. Is the lack of reflective surface inside the headlamp causing this or is it just HID's bulbs that do this? The Osram Night Breaker bulbs I had in before spread out quite far ahead and wide too.

[NocturnalblueSaab]

Have you adjusted the height ???

[Stefano]

Originally Posted by UK9K

Also, for those that fitted HID's, I have this other problem.

The lights come on ok when I rotate the headlight switch around to position 2, main beam. But with main beam on, and I put high beam on, the drivers side HID goes out, and stays out, but the passenger side stays on. When I turn the high beam off, the drivers side light stays off. I have to turn the headlight switch back down to sidelight, then main beam for both headlights to come on. Is there something wrong with the cars wiring?

I know that our cars keep low beams on at low intensity when high beams are on. I guess this is where the problem comes from.
I once read about a procedure to eliminate some relay to run low beams at full power even during high beam on. This might solve your problem. Sorry I can't be more specific

[julianm]

I don`t want to depress you, but this is interesting reading & viewing........

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

[NocturnalblueSaab]

Originally Posted by julianm

I don`t want to depress you, but this is interesting reading & viewing........

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

Depends on how much he spent as to how depressed he is going to be ! I personaly dont have HID

[Thirsty9000]

On, my '94 there is a resistor that the headlights run the low beam through when you switch to high beam. It's a tan or dirty white round jobber about 50 mm wide. In my car it's mounted on the inner fender right near the fuseblock. I'm not sure what all models this is there for, but worth checking out.

[UK9K]

Oh, is that what that thing is. Yeah, I got one of those too. Hmm, so does anyone know how to check if this is faulty or not? If the resistor IS faulty, then would it cause the symptoms I am having?

I have found that when I have the lights on main beam, and pull the highbeam on, there is like a funny sound comes from the rotary light switch. Sort of like erm....kkkerrrssshh sound??!?! Erm, sounds like short circuit sound in wiring, so I got another healight switch from Ebay, put that in, but still make the sound. I don't know if it made that sound prior to fitting the HID's tho.