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Old 4th May 2008
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Hi Folks,

I am new to this forum, I just traded a Solstice and a Jeep in for a Saab and it was a great trade. Does anyone have information on tuners for the 2.0T? I used Vector Motor sports for my ECM tune on my Solstice - who offers them for the 2.0T? What has been your experiences with them? Did you get any off the line performance in addition to when you really get on the gas?
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Most Saab Tuners are located in Europe and sell the re-programmed ECU units through Independent Saab specialty houses with extensive Saab repair experience here in the States.

There is one Custom Tuner who has lots of experience with the Trionic 5 and Trionic 7 ECU systems in the old 9-3's and 9-5's, and who also works with the Trionic 8 system in the 9-3SS. The guy's name is Jak Stoll, and he is located in Black Mountain, NC. http://www.jakstollperformance.com/ He also does lots of custom metal fabrication (i.e. exhaust systems and the like) and is probably the closest Saab Tuning source to your location in Atlanta. (Don't let his picture scare you)

European Tuners (in alphabetical order) are:
  • Abbott Racing - don't know of any US source
  • BSR - www.genuinesaab.com in Springfield, MO
  • MapTun - just started a US network for their products
  • Nordic - www.genuinesaab.com
  • SQR - Frank Stromquist (sp?) is considered the King of Saab Tuning, but may no longer have his own company
There may be others I either don't know or have temporarily forgotten.
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Most Saab Tuners are located in Europe and sell the re-programmed ECU units through Independent Saab specialty houses with extensive Saab repair experience here in the States.

There is one Custom Tuner who has lots of experience with the Trionic 5 and Trionic 7 ECU systems in the old 9-3's and 9-5's, and who also works with the Trionic 8 system in the 9-3SS. The guy's name is Jak Stoll, and he is located in Black Mountain, NC. http://www.jakstollperformance.com/ He also does lots of custom metal fabrication (i.e. exhaust systems and the like) and is probably the closest Saab Tuning source to your location in Atlanta. (Don't let his picture scare you)

European Tuners (in alphabetical order) are:
  • Abbott Racing - don't know of any US source
  • BSR - www.genuinesaab.com in Springfield, MO
  • MapTun - just started a US network for their products
  • Nordic - www.genuinesaab.com
  • SQR - Frank Stromquist (sp?) is considered the King of Saab Tuning, but may no longer have his own company
There may be others I either don't know or have temporarily forgotten.
Thank you for that valuable information. Couple of follow on questions 1)How can I tell if I have the Trionic 5 or Trionic 7 ECU? 2)Is it possible to purchase the European ECU and have it shipped to the states and have it work properly?
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You have Trionic 8.
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Thank you for that valuable information. Couple of follow on questions 1)How can I tell if I have the Trionic 5 or Trionic 7 ECU? 2)Is it possible to purchase the European ECU and have it shipped to the states and have it work properly?
As Diggs said, you have the T8 or Trionic 8 ECU. All 2.0 litre engines in the 9-3SS use this software.

As far as question #2, Yes it is possible, but other than Stage 1 Tuning (Saab Tuning packages are commonly sold as Stages, Stage 1 being the first step more powerful than stock, and Stage 4 usually being the strongest) I do not recommend it. As the software programs are tweaked for greater performance, the allowable margin of error for all inputs to the computer become tighter. My personal recommendation/opinion is that for Stages 3 and above, after the software is loaded, someone very familiar with Saabs and performance tuning needs to verify all inputs to the ECU. Too lean of an Air Fuel Mixture will cause your pistons to melt! Stage 2 is somewhere in between. Often Stage 2 is Stage 1 software with a few external mechanical bits. Stage 3 and above have a broader requirement of mandatory external engine bits to safely produce the power required.

Another thing I forgot to mention earlier is that the 2.0 litre engine in the 9-3SS shares some parameters & base components with the 2.0 litre engines in the Chevy cobalt. GM Performance will sell you the pieces to turn a Cobalt engine into a 1200+ HP screamer. Some of these parts will fit the Saab motor, some won't.
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I'm looking for the software to reprogram the ECU.
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