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Default Saab's Perception in Sweden?

Buicks in the US have the reputation as being big and boring cars for old people. Yet in China, they are considered the pinnacle of success and elegance.

What about Saab in Sweden? Has the perception changed of them in Sweden since GM took over? How have they been viewed in comparison to Volvo? It seems to me that Sweden is more proud of Volvo, but I could be wrong.
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good question, i have always wondered the same thing. having two car companies with such history such as saab and volvo in a small country like sweden must make quite a debate.
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That is a good question. I'm thinking like you guys, that Volvo would have a better rep in Sweden than Saab. Looking forward to hearing from people who know.

Volvo's depreciate more than Saabs in the US over a five year ownership period, which doesn't say much for Volvos. A friend is a mechanic at a Volvo dealership and said they are more of a PITA than Saabs to work on. I like Volvo's styling and features.
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Frankly I have never paid any attention to Volvos since Simon Templar and the Saint..


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I like Volvo's styling and features.
But I didnt know they have any styling or features.
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Frankly I have never paid any attention to Volvos since Simon Templar and the Saint..



But I didnt know they have any styling or features.
There is something visually appealing about a Vulvo. I don't know if its the grille or the tapered rear.
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There is something visually appealing about a Vulvo. I don't know if its the grille or the tapered rear.
It's your eyes... they are ugly and bland cars.

The exception of course is the P1800, and the original C70 coupe, in black
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It's your eyes... they are ugly
No they are a stunningly beautiful deep brown, I often get lost in DanS' eyes
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That is a good question. I'm thinking like you guys, that Volvo would have a better rep in Sweden than Saab.
Well, when I was in Sweden last August it looked like 50% of all cars there were either Volvo or Saab, and around Goteborg, I'd say that 50% was split pretty evenly between both, with newer 9-5's and 9-3SS making up a big percentage of those numbers, so I'd say Saab are still doing OK in Sweden.

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Volvo's depreciate more than Saabs in the US over a five year ownership period, which doesn't say much for Volvos.
Here in the UK it's the other way around......which doesn't say much for Saab's....
I think that's because it's a lot more well known that Saab is part of GM and get's tarnished with GM's 'cheap' brand image whereas Volvo being part of Ford isn't so widely known amongst 'Joe Public'.
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I agree Chris, Danielles's eyes are stunning..

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Well, of the relatives of Ellie's that we see in Sweden, there's a mix of cars...

1 x S70
2 x Fords
1 x Nissan (A Maxima, ffs...)
1 x somegodawfulgenericfareastern4x4
1 x 145 - one owner from new, too...

...and no Saabs whatsoever...
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I lived in Gothenburg, Sweden for 16 years, and I have the following to say on the topic.

Saabs don't have the best image over there at least compared to Volvos.

Volvos are seen as serious cars. Rugged and dependable.
Saabs as some sort of aesthetic flaky thing that might break on you.

Also, for some reason, even though both companies have been bought by U.S. car companies, Saab is considered as being controlled by a lame U.S. corporation, whereas Volvo is still considered Swedish.

Its strange really.
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I don't know why but whenever I think of Buick I think of something like the picture below . As far as volvo vs saab, in my opinion, volvo is seen as "setting standards". When I got this Saab and drove it down to show my family, the first thing my dad said was "they are safe because they have a nice rugged frame like volvo right?"

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I don't know why but whenever I think of Buick I think of something like the picture below . As far as volvo vs saab, in my opinion, volvo is seen as "setting standards". When I got this Saab and drove it down to show my family, the first thing my dad said was "they are safe because they have a nice rugged frame like volvo right?"

haha.. The grand national is the last thing to come to mind when I think of Buick.

Usually the first thing is an old lady with purple tinted hair peering over the wheel with thick glasses, but the ost you can really see are her knuckles on the wheel. Probably driving a 1993 Buick Lacrosse with one of those fake vinyl carriage tops.

While the grand national has an awesome engine, I can't help but think it got beaten with the ugly stick. Awful square box.
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I can't help but think it got beaten with the ugly stick. Awful square box.
It was the 80s man haha.

Oh and on an off note, Matt, I went into cambridge yesterday to go to fire and ice and passed a nice 9-5 aero in your color, doubt it was you but still kind of funny.
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While the grand national has an awesome engine, I can't help but think it got beaten with the ugly stick. Awful square box.
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hehe my brother had an volvo, which he sold to buy the 9000...... dumbest financial decision ever....... but as far as fun and ladies go
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There is something visually appealing about a Vulvo. I don't know if its the grille or the tapered rear.
Um, let's not be sexist and bring female anatomy into this thread

Back to VOLVO styling ..... I think the last great styling era was the 700-series and to a lesser extent the 800-series (but not the 900- nor S/V/XC era






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Um, let's not be sexist and bring female anatomy into this thread
Yes, I agree. Let's not make sexist comments about Volvo with their Mars/male gender symbol. It's good they use the "iron" mark to clarify things.

In the US, volvos depreciate more due to the lack of dealer network and high cost of parts. In other words, Saab/GM is a good thing for Saab owners.

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It was the 80s man haha.

Oh and on an off note, Matt, I went into cambridge yesterday to go to fire and ice and passed a nice 9-5 aero in your color, doubt it was you but still kind of funny.

Parked, or on ther road. I DO live near Harvard Sq.
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I see those all the time and theres always someone who appears to be a serial killer behind the wheel.
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