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So I just noticed that I am getting a noise, audible only at low speeds, when I turn the wheel. The sound is hard to describe, its a reverberation of sorts, almost a "twang" like when I turn past a certain point a muffled guitar string has been plucked. I can reproduce it predictably at a stand-still if I turn the wheel past a certyain point. The noise is definitely getting worse. Any ideas?
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My .02 Says Steering Column, there was an occasional issue with them on 03's
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same thing going on with my car right now, slow speeds or at a stop and if i turn the wheel back and forth it sounds like something "ping-ing" in the front end. deffinatly not the steering column (atleast before it passes thru the firewall). the dealer says it's due to the cold and is the coil springs twisting in their purches. i call b.s.

post up anything you find out about it, my issue seems to be worse when it's cold or before the car warms up.
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Yeah, I would buy the "cold coil spring" excuse except that it has been almost 60 here in Vermont over the past 3 days, and it is still terrible. Mine by the way is an 04 9-3 Aero, 6MT.
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I know exactly what you guys are talking about, It happened to me. There's a TSB on this issue for the 2003's.

Okay, here's what you do, you're not going to believe it:

The bolt that pinches the steering collumn to the rack and pinion is the culprit. All you have to do is simply take the bolt out (it's tighter than hell), clean up the threads (either with a die, or I just sprayed some WD-40 on it and used my finger nail for a couple of minutes, add a little loc-tite and re-install it.

I know, it makes no sense at all and I had taken off the airbag, inspected everything in the collumn thinking it was the CIM, broken piece of plastic stuck somewhere, or a tired bearing, and after I found the TSB and cleaned the bolt it was back to new. I still to this day have no idea why that bolt makes the wheel "creak" on turns and when rocking it, but that's exactly what it was.
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I found the TSB and cleaned the bolt it was back to new.
Link to said TSB?
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Im also having the same problem with my saab as posted before, I also thought it was due to the cold weather. So thank you for making this thread, now I have an idea what it is.

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The bolt that pinches the steering collumn to the rack and pinion is the culprit. All you have to do is simply take the bolt out (it's tighter than hell), clean up the threads (either with a die, or I just sprayed some WD-40 on it and used my finger nail for a couple of minutes, add a little loc-tite and re-install it.



On that note, do you have a picture / diagram of what "bolt" you removed??

Highly appreciated, since it is very annoying to hear, and I was abit worried thinking, I had some type of suspension issue..
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I also had the same problem.
But I replace thrust bearing and support bearing (part numbers 9191181 and 24435884 or 13188763). As my mechanic told me the reason of that nois was broken ball in the bearing...
Now its OK & I'm driving in minus 27 Celcius - no "ping" sound.
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On that note, do you have a picture / diagram of what "bolt" you removed??
Well I would go take a picture but right now I'm on crutches (skiing accident), so soon as I'm back at it I will. However to describe it, it's the bolt at the base of the steering collumn that goes through the collumn itself. It's very close to the "firewall" and was either a 10 or 13mm (I'm almost positive, it's been since last July when I fixed it)

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Link to said TSB?
I had a friend/technician who works at PepBoys use Mitchell on Demand and fax me it, but I know I've seen it listed at AllData.com. you have to pay for it to open it up but I know it's there. I'm pretty sure this is the number: 641-2468

You could go to a PepBoys or some other repair facility, and have them look it up for you, and they will probably just give you the copy if you ask or throw them a couple of bucks.
http://alldata.com/TSB/52/03524249.html


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Yeah, I would buy the "cold coil spring" excuse except that it has been almost 60 here in Vermont over the past 3 days, and it is still terrible. Mine by the way is an 04 9-3 Aero, 6MT.
Sadly I also ran into this issue last winter as well. This was literally the front springs moving around in the struts. It only happened when it was cold and the car was on dry ground while the suspension was wet (if you pulled into a garage after driving on wet/snowy roads). If you wiggled the steering wheel it made a huge "twanging" noise that transmitted through the cabin very noticeably. You can check this by having someone get in the car while it's running and wiggle the steering wheel while you reach your hand into the wheel well and hold the spring, you can feel it slightly "snapping" around as the wheel goes back and forth. So I got new springs and dampers (H&R 30mm w/ Koni FSD's), and so far, so good. I had no idea of how to fix that issue, and my struts were shot so I just junked 'em.
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Try not using you turn single when you turn and listen for the sound. Mine turned out to be the a fitting that reset the turn single. If no sound it might be a easy fix.
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Sounds like your steering box as already stated. It might be the fix referred to or something else within the box. My 03' was doing the same thing after 85,000 or so miles.
It's certainly nothing to worry about.
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too many ppl throwing "shots in the dark" like answers.

My car only makes a rubbing noise when turning the wheel at low speeds.

I cant really check much out right now due to my broken hand. but if the noise gets worse i know its serious. I think it maybe my winter tires gripping the road aggressively on dry terrain. Ill check out the springs, and the steering components this weekend.,

Definately not the steering box as someone has mentioned, thats just rediculous. I'll see if i can find what it is and keep it posted.
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I have this noise too.

I had the car looked at by Saab when it was last in for a service and they did do something with a bolt which was interfering with the steering rack (replaced the year before). It didnt cure it and was was then told that it was 99% likely to be the strut mount bearings. It was booked to go back in for the mounts to be replaced, but i had to cancel and havent got round to rebooking it.

The twang has also got louder since it started.
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(JWLANKY is correct, (sorry just read your post afterwards).
If the noise just started, then I hate to tell you it's not a simple 'steering column lubrication' fix. Which really doesn't make much sense, b/c you would get the noise throughout the entire rotation of the wheel if that was the case.

If the 'twanging' coil noise happens through a particular rotation in the steering wheel, such as through 12 oclock only, then I hate to tell you but it might be your Strut Mounts. Earlier models of the 2003+ 93 didn't have a water guard around the strut mount. This causes water to get in and over time prematurely wear out the mount. ~2-4 years is the time it could go. Notice how no other participant in this thread has anything newer than an '04?

Each part ~$120, plus installation (2.5 hrs) and alignment. (plus water gaurd, $6)

Hope this helps for those still looking for the source of the 'steering/spring' noise.

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moof you seem to have given a valid point. seems to make the most sense as of now. Hope your right

mine only makes noise when turning slighlty, not through the entire rotation of the wheel.

if the wheel is straight and i turn the wheen 90 degrees it makes it then i turn to 180 it goes away. same vise versa when turning left

your talking about the strut mount where the strut is placed in?
its the part at the bottom thats attached to the steering knuckle housing?

or you talking about the top end?

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Insulator & Bearing, parts: 305933389, 13188763, see the diagram here:
http://www.thesaabsite.com/93/93fron...sion2003on.htm
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The parts circled moof?? (this is more clear for me) just verify
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Looks good to me.
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thrust bearing, support bearing and the bellow (the protective boot)

ill just replace that hole assy. or i might way until i do my suspension upgrade.

We will see. Or should I be concerned about safety issue?
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So I just noticed that I am getting a noise, audible only at low speeds, when I turn the wheel. The sound is hard to describe, its a reverberation of sorts, almost a "twang" like when I turn past a certain point a muffled guitar string has been plucked. I can reproduce it predictably at a stand-still if I turn the wheel past a certyain point. The noise is definitely getting worse. Any ideas?
Crap, my car started doing this twang at low speeds as well. Any definitive answer to this problem?
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