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Ah! Bad news, bud - hope you get it sorted.
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so I'm not the only one known for "grace under pressure" eh?

Sorry to hear of your mis-adventure RB - hope you got it all sorted out - I feel like a real sh1t for not reading this earlier and coming down to help you out -

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Oh, Steve, don't be silly, don't expect you to drive 3 hours to help little ole me!

Well, I swapped in the lower control arm (which took a lot of rolling around in the muck in the rain). It's actually really easy to do - if you do nothing else at the same time and have all the right tools (jack, something to unload the suspension, 17mm sockets/wrenches, and one 19mm long socket), it really shouldn't take more than an hour.

The alignment is now better, but not nearly perfect (at least it's drivable, but with that wary "this can't be a good idea" feeling). I have a feeling (or rather a hope) that the spindle bent as well. Ugh, I hope there isn't a little tweakage to the frame or upper control arm that I didn't see :fingerscrossed: I should have taken a picture of the bent control arm next to the good one, you can see how saab designed them to bend in exacly the way that it did.

Anyway, it's in the shop now, I didn't see any 88+ 900s (to take off the hub/knuckle/spindle from) in the junkyard, and I can't have my girlfriend driving me all over the place all week only to find that the new knuckle doesn't fix it. The guys are pretty reputable, and I know them to be honest (I actually bought the car from them in the first place), so hopefully they take good care of my baby. And hopefully the control arm being done already saves some $$$.

Anyway, thanks for the support guys, life isn't quite as sweet without a saab!
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I'd think it'd be more likely to bend a tie rod than a spindle - the spindle is a pretty stout bit of steel and is well supported by the bearings whereas the tie-rod is just kinda "there".

Compared to what I was doing over the weekend, a three hour road trip to work on a car would have been a treat! I'm trying to get my daughters Subaru ready for inspection ..... I hate drum brakes!

Glad you're getting her back together -

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I'd think it'd be more likely to bend a tie rod than a spindle - the spindle is a pretty stout bit of steel and is well supported by the bearings whereas the tie-rod is just kinda "there".

Compared to what I was doing over the weekend, a three hour road trip to work on a car would have been a treat! I'm trying to get my daughters Subaru ready for inspection ..... I hate drum brakes!

Glad you're getting her back together -

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Haha, drum brakes, I remember those. I saw them once, on an old land rover, 7 years ago. Funny lookin things....

Well, the tie rods seemed straight and true when I looked at them - the shop just called me and said the spindle was bent (I think it looks like cast iron, probably designed to bend, like the control arm?), and that they would sell me a used one off their parts cars for $150 (pretty dang steep, but I guess you have to account for them removing it from the donor car). Then, 3 hours labor to button everything up, at the wonderful DC area price of.....$87.95 an hour. Yes, I said $87.95 an hour . With an alignment, tax, and shop fees, it's gonna come to $540 or so, he said. Could be worse, but the bottom line is I get the car back tomorrow knowing an experienced set of saab eyes made sure it everything was working as new.

He also told me that both of my inner drivers are slinging grease, so I've got that going for me.

Well, all in all, I'm happy. Sometimes I guess you gotta leave your car to the experts, and open your wallet. But this is why I need a backup car, because then I could afford to have it off the road for a few days while I gather all the required parts and take my time fixing it.
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Long long time ago, on an icy hill far away, I accellerated due to gravity with no control, brand new "all season" tires on brand new car, standard transmission, ....no problem, just crawl and keep it under contro.
ooops, why is the car accellerating?!!, put it in neutral...pump the brakes.....oh shi#! still accellerating!,....no problem, nothing to lose, just hold the brakes, ...no steering, ok, that didn't work, just coast then and try to avoid....THAT JERK PULLING OUT IN FRONT OF ME!!....steer around him,,oh no! a center island with 8"Curb....ok,....jumped that ok, transmission still intact......., oh no! another jerk passing a guy going up the icy hill....in my lane......way too much speed!
I got to work that day with not too much damage.
That afternoon I purchased four studded snow tires.
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Long long time ago, on an icy hill far away, I accellerated due to gravity with no control, brand new "all season" tires on brand new car, standard transmission, ....no problem, just crawl and keep it under contro.
ooops, why is the car accellerating?!!, put it in neutral...pump the brakes.....oh shi#! still accellerating!,....no problem, nothing to lose, just hold the brakes, ...no steering, ok, that didn't work, just coast then and try to avoid....THAT JERK PULLING OUT IN FRONT OF ME!!....steer around him,,oh no! a center island with 8"Curb....ok,....jumped that ok, transmission still intact......., oh no! another jerk passing a guy going up the icy hill....in my lane......way too much speed!
I got to work that day with not too much damage.
That afternoon I purchased four studded snow tires.
Have been putting studded snow tires on my cars since then. Cheap life insurance, and way cheaper than the deductable..
Yeah, snow tires are "on my list" but now that I have to fund this they'll have to wait a few weeks.

Interestingly, some non-studded snow tires that they make now actually get better traction on straight ice than studded ones - they put these little grit particles in there that really grab hold. Also, studs aren't legal anywhere near here
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Update: Got the car back last night! I'm one happy camper now

On a side note, they had some very, very cherry verts at the indy shop for sale, but one was $4800 or so and the other was, iirc....$6400!
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Glad to hear you're back in action! Congrats. It feels so good to drive your car after a long absence. Enjoy.
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Glad to hear you're back in action! Congrats. It feels so good to drive your car after a long absence. Enjoy.
So true! Thanks
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Great news...
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I should have taken a picture of the bent control arm next to the good one, you can see how saab designed them to bend in exacly the way that it did.
did it look like this?

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Haha - it bent in the same place and in the same way, but not even half as much as that!
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Haha - it bent in the same place and in the same way, but not even half as much as that!
well you weren't even going half the speed i was when i did that to Uma
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Haha - it bent in the same place and in the same way, but not even half as much as that!
The high school girls you were trying to impress in the car weren't half as hot as those in Uma.
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The high school girls you were trying to impress in the car weren't half as hot as those in Uma.
Yeah, the two in the back had a combined weight of 550 lbs, increasing the cars propensity to oversteer.
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Yeah, the two in the back had a combined weight of 550 lbs, increasing the cars propensity to oversteer.
<shudder>
Just because they're sweaty doesn't mean they're hot.
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Yeah, the two in the back had a combined weight of 550 lbs, increasing the cars propensity to oversteer.
275lbs each? yeesh!
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Just because they're sweaty doesn't mean they're hot.
lol

I actually have had women from my work almost that heavy in the backseat once a while ago, the rear tires were rubbing on even the smallest of bumps
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275lbs each? yeesh!
Mebbe one was anorexic, and the other... wasn't...
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EDIT: Sorry I'm getting off track.

So RB does the car feel the same now?
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