wont start from ignition key-but will from remote starter

[bash]

Saab 1997 SE Turbo manual transmission I have just bought

Turn ignition key to on and every thing works, dash, lights, etc. Turn key to start engine nothing won't even crank the engine. If i turn the ignition to on, then by using a remote starter unit, the starter crank's and the engine starts first time and runs perfect. This would cancel out immobiliser, and proves the starter motor is OK and the battery is OK, i have cleaned all the leads but it still wont start from the ignition key. Is there a fuse some where or a relay that works thru the ignition switch and could stop power going to the small spade on the solenoid on the starter. As this is the only reason i can see why the engine wont start as by using the remote starter ,all you are doing is sending a live current to the solenoid by passing the ignition. cheers bash

[Frank_Drebin]

Bash, Check this thread I did last week. It shows your schematic for the starting circuit. From what I see the immobilizer would be the likely culprit. Bypass it with the jumper as shown in the picture and see if this works. If so, you will have to decide if you want the immobilzer fixed or if you just want to drive it w/o that function.

Most likely, your remote car starter is wired directly to the starter relay and bypasses the immobilzer.


By the way... Your schematic is the one with the blue jumper in the 2nd picture.


http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=109861

[bash]

Cheers (Frank_Drebin ), Every thing is OK now, i can start the engine every time now with the ignition key many thanks for the advice.
I can now carry on and see if its worth putting it thru a UK MOT test and getting it back on the road. As i said i bought it for under a £100 to use as spares for my own 1997 Tubo 900 SE Auto. The previous owner said he took it off the road nearly 2 yrs ago, because it in his own words ( It Seemed not as powerful as it was when he first got it ) I have taken it for a spin for about 5 miles on private land and i just cannot understand what he is on about. In fact if you boot it, there is to much power, with it being a manual gearbox the wheels are scrabbling for grip in the low gears. Turbo is working fine, no smoke , no overheating, engine sounds sweet. No steering issue's and the brakes now they have got rid of the rust on the disc's are bang on. I will have a real good look underneath tomorrow for rust or anything else, and see if it starts up with no smoke or other problems. The Red paintwork is rust free and is T Cutting up to a real shine, the leather, cruise, and all the electric's are all ok. I can up to press find only two small things wrong. No1 Air Con needs regassing. No2 the gear linkage is a bit on the sloppy side. Oh need to get the code for the sound system.
It is hard to know what to do, is there a problem that doesnt show up until you have driven it for a good few miles, but without getting it road legal i never will find out. Does any one know what a decent Saab 900SE Turbo 1997 manual with 87,000 miles on the clock and with 12 mths mot is worth, cheers bash