Calling corpulant men...

[ragtopcav]

... according to Times2 and in particular Tobsha Learner, those men that are substantial in build should feeeeeel good, read the lot; or enjoy these nuggets...

"Like a Paddington Bear with dangly bits, he seems to take a huge (and enviable) delight in striding around the bedroom naked, admiring himself in the mirror. "

The hollowed cheeks, thin flanks, bony hands and knees that once said edgy, dangerous, a challenge to seduce and illicit in bed, now says undernourished, undersexed, uncomfortable, narcissistic (narcissists are lousy lovers) and probably a closet smoker.

Take our distant cousin the gorilla: the male is often twice the size of the female, his girth and bulk (and glistening grey hair) all play a part in attracting females

Interestingly, rotund men are less likely than thin ones to commit suicide – so either eating what you like makes you happy, or unhappiness makes you thin, take your pick. So go forth, sisters, embrace the circumference, hug the bear.

Amusing article and worth the read.

[84Saab900TURBO]

Dang. I suppose I'm unhappy then. Hate it when this happens. I'm going along thinking everything is fine when all of a sudden something on the internet tells me I'm wrong. Good luck to all you "gorillas" out there anyway.

[ragtopcav]

Originally Posted by 84Saab900TURBO

I'm going along thinking everything is fine when all of a sudden something on the internet tells me I'm wrong

Difference is not only was the article committed to print and widely circulated, a bona fide author put her name to it - rare combination for the 'net.

[Thirsty9000]

Amusing little propoganda bit. But hey, If it helps people unload the guilt of being obese, good luck, and I wish them all nothing but the juiciest of burgers and sweetest of pastries!

[Saaboheme]

Interesting Raggy, as this AM I read in the local birdcage liner that obese people have somewhere between a 2 to 3 times better chance of survivng a heart attack!! Of course, obese people have a greater likelihood of suffering a heart attack, so it is only somewhat of a comfort to learn that they are more likely to survive one. Media image notwithstanding, it appears that fatties rule.

[ragtopcav]

Originally Posted by Thirsty9000

unload the guilt of being obese

I think you're confusing corpulent with obese; there is a difference. And I'm inclined to agree with anyone that is young and lithe, that is good; it is the attempt at denial by men and women, of a certain age, to hang onto this youthful look, I find a bit sad.
Propaganda? It's all that isn't it? Be well; buy our health products; use our gym; have this health check - it all involves spending money just as buying lots of food; does are they in this together? One corporation gets you fat and the other tries to get you thin and the only ones that really win are the fat cat shareholders .

I do wonder if the point of the article is lost in the translation; we should be happy with ourselves and the skin we are in. Having a few pounds more than a meaningless chart says is not a big deal, it is important to remain active with a good balanced diet, alcohol in moderation and a good outlook.

The make a human being kit is not one size fits all; our very existence on this little [and actually quite hostile] planet requires us to come in all shapes and sizes, with various levels of strength and weakness [physical and mental] a variety of skin tone is equally essential; any attempt at choosing an ideal form is not very far away from choosing an ideal colour is it?

Back to obese; I view this in my puny mind as the opposite end of the eating disorder scale to anorexia [the dietary specialists and psychology trained amongst you will now probably cringe at that over simplification] what I want to know is why can't everything else in between be embraced as normal?

[semyhr]

I don't think that anyone is trying to say that people with a couple of extra pounds are not considered to be normal. Like take Homer Simpson for example.. he has that big belly but no-one is saying that he is fat or not normal because of that. It is really all about the type of person you are and that's it.

What I lately don't like since I started going to gym is that a lot of people have healthy body with no extra weight their body consumes all of the food well but they just keep pushing it to limits by eating everything they want till it breaks and in the end they gain no muscle at all - they are still slim but with fat all over and it's their fault. On the other hand there are people who have health problems and they will gain a lot of fat by simply eating one piece of cake.

Anyway, it's better to be overweight and happy than "correct" weight and not happy. The first option is probably more healthy anyway so it's all about how you feel If you feel good with your weight then that's OK, if you feel like you could drop a couple of pound - go for it, it will make you feel better

[DavidMorgan]

Makes me laugh reading your .. maybe a little overweight but not obese... comments. Mutual adoration society trying to persude everyone it is better to be overweight.

I'm 60; weight 92 kilos (202lbs, 14+ stone ) 1m88 (6ft 2") and a head full of white hair... And if I want to loose a few kilos all I have to do is moderate the whisky coke intake. It's radical.

[Saaboheme]

Originally Posted by DavidMorgan

Makes me laugh reading your .. maybe a little overweight but not obese... comments. Mutual adoration society trying to persude everyone it is better to be overweight.

I'm 60; weight 92 kilos (202lbs, 14+ stone ) 1m88 (6ft 2") and a head full of white hair... And if I want to loose a few kilos all I have to do is moderate the whisky coke intake. It's radical.

I am utterly stunned. This gent most savoir faire, domiciled in the City of Light, actually drinks whisky & coke? I am aghast and appalled. This sophisticate strolls a city literally awash in affordable potables and quaffs of impeccable (or at least respectable) provenance and vintage and he imbibes (by choice, no less) of whisky & coke? Please someone, tell me this is not true - that barbarians have temporarily seized control of Mr. Morgan's computer and posted this scandalous rubbish, and that at this very moment a plan is being executed to restore Mr. Morgan to his rightful place, with snifter of Louis Treize at hand. If I may be excused, I need repair to my sitting room, there to down some Advil with an Old Milwaukee.

[VikingSpirit]

I agree with be happy with your lot philosphy, healthy is not just about appearance or conforming to what the media says you should like,

What I find interesting is that whilst there are plenty of people who want to loose a few pounds, there are equally plenty of skinny people who want to bulk up (mostly men of course) and who are frustrated at not being able to gain weight no matter how much they eat or work out. We all process what we do to our bodies in different ways.

I'm 6ft tall, 17 stone and would never fit in pair of 32" waist jeans even I wanted to, I took up swimming for an hour each morning, being really careful about what I eat, and I feel loads better, bit I don't look any different, at all.

I don't get chest pains, I don't get out of breath from climbing the stairs,
even my doctor says that I'm perfectly healthy, I'm just well built and it seems I can't change it any more than I can change my height, just the way it goes sometimes...

[Albert Trout]

Originally Posted by DavidMorgan

I'm 60; weight 92 kilos (202lbs, 14+ stone ) 1m88 (6ft 2") and a head full of white hair... And if I want to loose a few kilos all I have to do is moderate the whisky coke intake. It's radical.

I'm stunned. Whiskey & Coke I could accept but surely not the good stuff Mr. Morgan

[Saaboheme]

Originally Posted by Albert Trout

I'm stunned. Whiskey & Coke I could accept but surely not the good stuff Mr. Morgan

You mean . . . . . . He's mixing 30 year old single malt with coke??? GAAAAAAAAAAK! This is insanity, nay, it is the paragon of social impropriety. This madman must be stopped . . . at any cost.

[Albert Trout]

I must proceed to Paris forthwith and bring a halt to this behaviour. I fear that if I do not it may contaminate the very fabric of the Gallic capital's sophisticated soul.

[DavidMorgan]

Un e + or - makes all the difference.

But yes, Black and White or Haigs I can find for €9.50. I have to add the coke because if I drink it neat it makes me thirsty and then... .

And to upset you even more I will partake in a little Bushmills of an evening, but sans coke.

Cheers from Paris

[Albert Trout]

Originally Posted by DavidMorgan

And to upset you even more I will partake in a little Bushmills of an evening, but sans coke.

Cheers from Paris

NOOOOOOOO!!! What about all that lovely peaty goodness?

TBH my wife has banned me from whisky while in her company. Albert can be a very greedy boy

[DavidMorgan]

Mine wants me on the waggon. she is sure it makes me snore

[tpzahm]

For some years it has been the case that every day I get fatter, dumber, and
happier.

[Albert Trout]

Originally Posted by DavidMorgan

Mine wants me on the waggon. she is sure it makes me snore

Unfortunately, sleeping makes me snore

[DavidMorgan]

Originally Posted by tpzahm

For some years it has been the case that every day I get fatter, dumber, and
happier.

If you change the order you will feel even happier

[TurboBlix]

this is an interesting article that got a lot of attention recently. a number of top economists analyzed the preferences of people on online dating sites (i guess people either cut the BS there or have to respond in preformatted categories - hence the availability of quantifiable info). this report was the result of the study.

What Makes You Click:
An Empirical Analysis of Online Dating
http://www.aeaweb.org/annual_mtg_pap..._0800_0502.pdf

interestingly, it seems most women prefer men of BMI 27, which according to the report, the AMA says is slightly overweight. being around 6'3" and 6'5" helps. as well as not having red hair. making +$100k and being just as educated - or more - is also a turn on, according to the report.

and as for women, men prefer heights up to 5'8" (sucks for me) and a supermodel's BMI. and a lesser education. money really isn't a factor, as long as she's short, skinny, and stupid (j/k not stupid of course). and has long blonde hair (short hair is apparently a turnoff; blonde hair is preferred).

kinda obvious information, with the exception of the BMI preferences. i don't know what BMI 27 looks like on a man, since there are so many different body shapes so the number could me one thing for one type and another for another guy. and most guys i know claim to like women who are a little "thick" as they put it. while they wouldn't pass up a date iwth a supermodel, i've seen them gawk at some heavier-set women with a little extra junk in the trunk.

i also read some study somewhere where if you're a guy who is 5'8", you have to make $130,000 to be as attractive to women as a guy who is 5'11.5". other insights of similar nature and i don't know how whoever came up with those statistics did so. oh here's a link where someone summarizes it - http://pithiness.blogspot.com/2006/1...ing.html#links.

i think it's easy to say that men and women go for looks as the baseline criteria and work from there. other factors like personality (a huge factor for many) and income and social standing can be tie-breakers. as a tip, it seems a lot of women are attracted to a**holes. apparently being a jerk is a turnon for many women. but that's just knowledge i've picked up on my own.