500+hp 9-5 XXBrianSXX - SaabCentral Forums
*
Home Saab Pictures Saab Classifieds Saab Dealer Listings Saab Forum Saab Forum


Go Back   SaabCentral Forums > Saab 9-5 Mk.I, 1998-2009 > 9-5 Performance, Mods & Tuning

9-5 Performance, Mods & Tuning Covers Tuning & Performance modifications for the 9-5

SaabCentral.com is the premier Saab Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 18th May 2007
Garrett
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default 500+hp 9-5 XXBrianSXX

preface- I know this is not necessarily a performance thread but it seems fitting

Hello fellow Saab nuts.

I wanted to officially introduce myself and share with the community the new ride I just purchased. Some of you may know BrianS and his 9-5 Steel Grey Aero who visited SC only occasionally. His car is now in my garage and let me say for the record……WOW!!! What a tremendous job he did. He did the majority of the install and research himself…oh and paid for all the hardware ;-)

He left the exterior of this car and the interior virtually stock. The only ext clues are the large oval stainless muffler/tip and the lower H&R stance. As for the performance, it is breathtaking. I have driven some pretty fast cars as I spent 10yrs in the car biz. This car does one thing really really well. SURPRISE every unsuspecting ________< (insert fast car) on the road. Example: Brian stated that a few months ago he offered to race his Boss’s car, an 04 E55AMG, from 70mph to whatever. Well long story short he pulled to 120 and easily pulled away from the monster E (that he now owns). The other thing this car does very well is combine outrageous power with fuel economy. I can’t think of a single car on the road that has 500+ hp and returns 26mpg!! That is also with having some fun in that tankful. I am currently trying to stay off the throttle and see what a light throttle tank of gas gets me. I would not be surprised to see 29-30 (70% highway 30%city). The down side to this car is the balance shafts were removed to minimize moving parts in the engine, the four cylinder Saab stumble idle, the burbling 3 inch exhaust and the large 750 injectors. It sounds and feels a little like a poorly running Saab. Only the enthusiast will recognize the “reason” for the uncivilized idle. As for the power, here is a gear by gear playback…



1st- get the rpms up and don’t bother using full or even almost full throttle. It goes by so quickly that one should be preparing for the quick clutch and get to the next gear.

2nd- The fun starts. Thankfully the car has a quaife limited slip. The car will readily relinquish traction on full throttle but actually hooks up well at ¾ throttle, but man hang on tight and peddle away. 35-60mph comes like a rape date (sorry ladies)

3rd- Holy Cow!! Keep peddling!! The world slows as the speedo looks like another tach. To look down after a few seconds and see 100mph when you would expect to see 80mph is absolutely sobering. There had better be no officers around because you will need to brake very hard to shed down to 60mph again or get the riot act recited (and large ticket).

4th- If you are fortunate enough to still have no cars on the horizon, the surge of speed is unreal. I have not left my foot down in forth for the full 7000rpm since this car still has the Oem Viggen rotors and stock rears, that kind of speed is trouble waiting to happen on many levels.

5th- Really just for cruising b/c to full throttle this gear is not rewarding unless you are doing 120mph. The cams and Garrett gt3076 like higher revs.



I have had some conversation with the fatship (Dave). The other stateside 9-5 monster. We are looking to go to New England Dragway and see what kind of numbers we can put up. I feel with some magic traction dust we can get the high 12s but we will see. If any others here in the MASS/RI/CONN/VT/NH area are interested we could have a modified Saab turbo day or night. I will eventually get up some video and a dyno graph once I get it tuned by either Frank at SQR or Fredrik if he comes to the states in the near future. Brian had a dyno done but had to end it early at 5800rpms when one of the straps let loose. Full power is reached at 6800rpms. 443whp and 432wtq at 5800 is real good but there is another 40+whp there with the rest of the rpms and a better road tune.

I don’t post often because life is toooo busy now. So I left it all out in the intro. I hope to share more content in the next few weeks. I feel fortunate to own this amazing machine. I hope some can come to the NED mini meet soon.



Take care all~

Gerard
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 18th May 2007
Jssaab Jssaab is offline
Saab on the Brain!
 
Join Date: Aug 2006                                                
Location: DC Area, Maryland
My Saabs: 2000 9-5 320hp, 2003 Aero Hirsch "Clone"
Posts: 7,384
Default Nice car

enjoy and lot's o' luck keeping your foot out of it!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3  
Old 18th May 2007
hambone575 hambone575 is offline
SaabNut!
 
Join Date: Sep 2005                                                
Location: Brookline, Ma
My Saabs: 9-5 Aero Wagon
Posts: 399
Default

Can you take me for a quick ride someday..? Where in RI are you.. I have lived down there the pasts few summers and spend lots of time there
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4  
Old 19th May 2007
Kermit's Avatar
Kermit Kermit is offline
Saabista
 
Join Date: Sep 2004                                                
Location: London UK
My Saabs: 04 9-5 Vector 2.2Tid
Posts: 11,016
Default

Gerard, put some racing slicks on the front for the drag strip, it could make for some interesting times. Nordic's drag car posts late 9's on slicks.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5  
Old 19th May 2007
Garrett
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hambone575
Can you take me for a quick ride someday..? Where in RI are you.. I have lived down there the pasts few summers and spend lots of time there
Sure - I live over by URI and work in NProv. Hit my email at sendtog@gmail.com and we can set up a blast.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6  
Old 19th May 2007
Garrett
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kermit
Gerard, put some racing slicks on the front for the drag strip, it could make for some interesting times. Nordic's drag car posts late 9's on slicks.
Really Kermie,
That is crazy...got any links for a video?
I need rear spring blocks (suspension is soft soft!), slicks maybe- or legal dot's
Our cars are heavy by FWD drag standards and our 1st gear is sooo short.
This car does not like a fast 1-2 shift so I need to take it easy. My 60' will never be that good. With all the power this car makes I believe 12s are very feasible- just how deep?
Really though I need to go practice a dozen times or so the first 2 gears from a dig . That will make most of the difference.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7  
Old 19th May 2007
Raven18940's Avatar
Raven18940 Raven18940 is offline
Saab on the Brain!
 
Join Date: Feb 2005                                                
Location: Newtown, PA (near Trenton, NJ)
My Saabs: 2001 9-5 Aero 5spd
Posts: 5,641
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett
I need rear spring blocks (suspension is soft soft!
Where do people get these?!? I can't find them and I know they'd do wonders for the heavy 9-5.

As for dragging, if you wanna use first I advise changing up around 5-5.5. It lessens the rpm change and drops the engine around 3 in 2nd. Or given the massive torque you have, you could just go from 2nd. As long as you've got a good clutch the car can do it, cause my standard aero has the power to go from second, just the clutch won't grab.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by VikingSpirit
We can neither confirm nor deny the rumours that there is, was or ever will be "females" or "Message Boards" on the interweb...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8  
Old 19th May 2007
Chris 9-5's Avatar
Chris 9-5 Chris 9-5 is offline
Saab Sage!
 
Join Date: Jun 2003                                                
Location: SaabWorld
My Saabs: .
Posts: 22,211
Default

And where are the pages of pictures please?
__________________
I decline to grant to SAABCENTRAL.COM a non exclusive, royalty free, worldwide, perpetual license to reproduce, distribute, transmit, sublicense, create derivative works of, publicly display, publish and perform any materials and other information I submit to any public areas....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9  
Old 19th May 2007
Kermit's Avatar
Kermit Kermit is offline
Saabista
 
Join Date: Sep 2004                                                
Location: London UK
My Saabs: 04 9-5 Vector 2.2Tid
Posts: 11,016
Default

My bad, it was late 10's not 9's. Its since done 10.41 which is pretty good for fwd. http://www.nordictuning.com/movies/10_41s_swe.wmv
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10  
Old 19th May 2007
KKAero KKAero is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006                                                
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
My Saabs: 2006 9-5 Wagon 2,0t BioPower MapTun stg6
Posts: 318
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kermit
Gerard, put some racing slicks on the front for the drag strip, it could make for some interesting times. Nordic's drag car posts late 9's on slicks.

A 9-5 with 500+ hp could/should get into the high 12's with a bit of luck, but traction usually hampers progress significantly...

Best regards,

KK
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11  
Old 19th May 2007
KKAero KKAero is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006                                                
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
My Saabs: 2006 9-5 Wagon 2,0t BioPower MapTun stg6
Posts: 318
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett
I will eventually get up some video and a dyno graph once I get it tuned by either Frank at SQR or Fredrik if he comes to the states in the near future. Brian had a dyno done but had to end it early at 5800rpms when one of the straps let loose. Full power is reached at 6800rpms. 443whp and 432wtq at 5800 is real good but there is another 40+whp there with the rest of the rpms and a better road tune.
Hi,

Is there something wrong with your current software? I assume you have the same H/W mods as "Mr. X" in Sweden, and also the same S/W?

His car runs absolutely beautifully.

Best regards,

KK
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #12  
Old 19th May 2007
fatship's Avatar
fatship fatship is offline
SaabNut!
 
Join Date: May 2004                                                
Location: new hampshire
My Saabs: 9-5 monster
Posts: 301
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KKAero
Hi,

Is there something wrong with your current software? I assume you have the same H/W mods as "Mr. X" in Sweden, and also the same S/W?

His car runs absolutely beautifully.

Best regards,

KK
surely you don't believe that two different cars on two different continents will run the same on the same software. one car has a custom tune.......the other has a mailbox tune based on that custom tune. i'm sure you can see that a custom tune is ALWAYS better....given the tuner is competent.
dave
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #13  
Old 19th May 2007
KKAero KKAero is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006                                                
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
My Saabs: 2006 9-5 Wagon 2,0t BioPower MapTun stg6
Posts: 318
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fatship
surely you don't believe that two different cars on two different continents will run the same on the same software. one car has a custom tune.......the other has a mailbox tune based on that custom tune. i'm sure you can see that a custom tune is ALWAYS better....given the tuner is competent.
dave
Hi,

No, of course, a custom tune done by a competent tuner with all the necessary equipment is ALWAYS better.

Best regards,

KK
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #14  
Old 19th May 2007
Garrett
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fatship
surely you don't believe that two different cars on two different continents will run the same on the same software. one car has a custom tune.......the other has a mailbox tune based on that custom tune. i'm sure you can see that a custom tune is ALWAYS better....given the tuner is competent.
dave
True that Dave^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If I could be so lucky to get Fredrik in the states to road tune my car...oh the POWER!! I think with the boost up closer to 30 and a sweet tune this car would get to that magical 500whp. I guess Frank will get the nod as I need to get this done. The car is cranky every cold start-up and has a few numb spots and is rich at times...etc etc
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #15  
Old 19th May 2007
Garrett
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris 9-5
And where are the pages of pictures please?

Do you want to post them for me sir super mod mixer??
Pm me or send my an email at sendtog@gmail.com
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #16  
Old 19th May 2007
Garrett
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kermit
My bad, it was late 10's not 9's. Its since done 10.41 which is pretty good for fwd. http://www.nordictuning.com/movies/10_41s_swe.wmv
Indeed good. BUT, if I am a betting man that car has had thorough weight reduction efforts and has had many tweaks of the suspension and wheel/tire combos.
Where my car shines is 40mph on and upward. The other day I was heading up a long slow hill with a misting on the roads...I was at 65mph and was feeling frisky b4 I got off the highway. I progressively stomped on 3rd gear and broke both tires free at 70mph...this is very entertaining and mad me laugh out loud . I need to find a 400hp vet on a dry day and see how things shake out on the highway- not from a stoplight of course...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #17  
Old 20th May 2007
KKAero KKAero is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006                                                
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
My Saabs: 2006 9-5 Wagon 2,0t BioPower MapTun stg6
Posts: 318
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett
True that Dave^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If I could be so lucky to get Fredrik in the states to road tune my car...oh the POWER!! I think with the boost up closer to 30 and a sweet tune this car would get to that magical 500whp. I guess Frank will get the nod as I need to get this done. The car is cranky every cold start-up and has a few numb spots and is rich at times...etc etc
Hi,

Why don't you ask him? I know he goes to Scotland and Holland quite a bit for tuning as well as custom remaps.

He just did a 535 hp 9000 in Scotland. It had too mild cams unfortunately, but driveability was excellent of course.

Best regards,

KK
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #18  
Old 20th May 2007
Garrett
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KKAero
Hi,

Why don't you ask him? I know he goes to Scotland and Holland quite a bit for tuning as well as custom remaps.

He just did a 535 hp 9000 in Scotland. It had too mild cams unfortunately, but driveability was excellent of course.

Best regards,

KK
Actaully KK, I have had one email exchange with him after BrianS introduced me through email. On Thursday I emailed Fredrik with a handful of questions and one of them was if and when he was coming to the USA. As of yet....no response back

535? whp or crank power?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #19  
Old 20th May 2007
KKAero KKAero is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006                                                
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
My Saabs: 2006 9-5 Wagon 2,0t BioPower MapTun stg6
Posts: 318
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett
Actaully KK, I have had one email exchange with him after BrianS introduced me through email. On Thursday I emailed Fredrik with a handful of questions and one of them was if and when he was coming to the USA. As of yet....no response back

535? whp or crank power?
Hi,

We've had a Bank Holiday over here (Thursday), usually closed this Friday pretty much all over the place.

I'm sure he'll get back to you as soon as he can.

535 was crank hp AFAIK. Check out the black 575 hp monster 9000 that they dynoed last week. Apparently that was at 6.500 rpm. Fuel cut on that car is 8.000+ rpm... The flywheel came loose during the tuning session on the dyno. It should be capable of 650 or even close to 700 hp.

http://www.maptun.com/cars.php?id=134

Best regards,

KK
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #20  
Old 20th May 2007
nutpam
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KKAero
Hi,

We've had a Bank Holiday over here (Thursday), usually closed this Friday pretty much all over the place.

I'm sure he'll get back to you as soon as he can.

535 was crank hp AFAIK. Check out the black 575 hp monster 9000 that they dynoed last week. Apparently that was at 6.500 rpm. Fuel cut on that car is 8.000+ rpm... The flywheel came loose during the tuning session on the dyno. It should be capable of 650 or even close to 700 hp.

http://www.maptun.com/cars.php?id=134

Best regards,

KK
Good to know thanks KK.
A GT40- jeez!! I do not see anything on the h/w list about strengthened internals...c/rods or piston. Is the tranny stock too??
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SaabCentral Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:01 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

top of page | sitemap | email us



copyright © 2003 - 2011 saabcentral.com, All rights reserved http://www.whiter.co.uk - valid xhtml - valid css
SaabCentral is an independently run website and is not affiliated in any way to Saab Automobile AB.


Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.