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I was wondering if any of you know what's coming.

We have reached peak oil production on a global scale. We reached peak U.S. oil production in 72. I am worried. If you want some evidence check out peakoil.com

I've purchased some land just in case *S*

Going to plant some pecans, apples, camalinas, lemons, and confiers. Will also build a 1200sqf straw bale home on the same property.

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Delete this thread please-It duplicated.


Thanks

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I deleted the other. I still don't understand either. Is this your new spread?
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It's the new spread.

Do you know what peakoil is BK?

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Nice one mate. I love straw bale houses. That's a nice high bit of ground. You'll need the conifers for wind breaks. Some larger nut trees also make good wind breaks.
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Thanks for the positive feedback! I'm planning a serious windbreak on the North and West sides of property.

This site was off grid until 6 months ago-so I have a wind generator and battery array with the site.

The home on property is well built and with some adjustments the original home will be able to house my parent's/grandparents.

I've built two straw bale structrures that weren't my own but I fell in love with them.

I was also a wheat farmer and I have connections for good 3 string bales!

I can't wait for the close on this property!

Thanks for reading!

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I understand "Peakoil" but what does this have to do with buying land?

And a straw-bale home?!

...Is this a joke?
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Land to grow the food that will feed you and a home that doesn't require grid energy.

The BPA is a monster that I'd rather not rely upon.

You probably don't understand 'straw bale'. Look it up-the R value is so much higher than standard 2x6 with infill fiberglass that most people don't understand it. I grew up with bale structrues and I worked standard construction of the 'twigs' that I undersand what it takes to build a structure that doesn't need AC or Heat.

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I think he just wants to be self sufficient.

And straw bale homes are real. very cheap and quite energy efficient.

But beware of the big bad wolf...
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But beware of the big bad wolf...

One of the standard replies Spidey

With lime/sand/crete plaster on the inside and out and three string bales it is more fire proof than any stick built home ever made *S*.

Sustainable building will allow me to sleep better at night. Microsoft just landeed here-I'll give you a google map location so you can map it-and it's going absolutely crazy here.

Intel, Intuit, Yahoo, and Google are all building within a 50 mile radius of this homestead.

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One of the standard replies Spidey

With lime/sand/crete plaster on the inside and out and three string bales it is more fire proof than any stick built home ever made *S*.



Rogo
That's right, I've seen photos of fires that have started in straw bale houses, that have just smoldered and gone out. Even when the lime/sand/crete plaster has come away exposing the straw. One was where an alter type thing was built into the wall and a candle was the source of ignition.
Here is a New Zealand outfit that offers some info.
You may interested in permaculture if you don't already know of it's benefits.
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You're missing a very important word...

peak cheap oil.


There's a subtle but critical difference....

The easy-to-get stuff is the cheap oil, the source that is slowly dwindling. There are billions of untapped reserves that are harder to process....

Eventually, the cheap oil will give way to more expensive oil, and we'll see gas at $7 a gallon, and prices for everything else will rise, since we're so reliant on petroleum products.

Living off the grid can insulate you from the immediate effects -- electricity and heating are the two big ones -- but unless you plan to grow cotton or flax, and can process and weave it into cloth, you're still going to pay the same for underwear as we all will.

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You're missing a very important word...

peak cheap oil.


There's a subtle but critical difference....
Mike, that's an illusion, cheap oil is over. Cheap light crude is not being discovered on a scale that can sustain the world's oil dependency.

I thought I'd give you all a googlemap of the locaiton-just incase you want to stop by for a visit *S*

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&...04471,0.011694

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OK i am understanding more now.

Sounds like a good invesment... whats the budget on this project?
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Mike, that's an illusion, cheap oil is over. Cheap light crude is not being discovered on a scale that can sustain the world's oil dependency.
Agreed....we're never going to see $2.00 gas again....

But the world's economy isn't going to implode in a giant chaotic fireball because we're running out of oil. As oil gets more expensive, it makes other energy sources more attractive. The only reason we're all not currently running around in electric or solar powered cars is because those technologies aren't as cost-effective as an internal combustion engine....yet.

When oil runs out, there will be other forms of energy to fill the demand...


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I thought I'd give you all a googlemap of the locaiton-just incase you want to stop by for a visit *S*

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&...04471,0.011694

Rogo
Much respect for the new spread....My grandfather had 120 acres in upstate New York where I used to spend summers. I've been a city kid all my life, but there's absolutely nothing like turning the soil to grow your own food. I grow veggies in the summer and fall, and tap my maples for syrup in the late winter and spring, but it's a dream of mine to own a farm....

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I looked at the pictures again....that's a million dollar view......
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You're doing more than most of by tapping your maple trees and growing vegetable gardens.

You guys are giving me a better reception than the peakoil.com crowd !

I do appreciate their questions though. I'm getting asked about the watershed, the quality of the well, and sustainablility of wind (which isn't really in question, I checked the windmaps of WA state 2 years ago, just after my divorce).

I appreciate the warm feedback from you all, thank you.

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HaHa, i will just build a house next to the alaskan oil pipeline and tap into it and build my own private refinery

Seriously though Rogo, that is a beautiful place and i wish you the best of luck!
Perhaps one day i will go the same path.
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if you're in eastern washington, how can you have an ocean view?
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Nice one mate. I love straw bale houses. That's a nice high bit of ground. You'll need the conifers for wind breaks. Some larger nut trees also make good wind breaks.
One problem with putting trees between your house and the prevailing wind is that you roof will last about half as long as it should. Unless its pine trees, then it will last 5 times as long, especially if you never clean the needles off.
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