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For the sake of clarity, OEM means Original Equipement Manufacturer. It's the same product as the Saab or any other brand name but sold from the sub-contracting equpement provider directly to the secondary market.
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If you're gonig used with the DIC; make sure the version is TK 3.7 (new version) and not 3.6 (old version under recall) this info would be on the bottom of the DIC.

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the DIC he was selling was black , reason hes selling because he bought the red one so idl if he order the wrong one or not but its a black one for sale.
Don't put the RED T5 where a T7 black DIC is needed; the code P0340 is a CPS malfunction code related to Ignition and injection not being syncronized with the CPS.

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Had that cod about 3 weeks ago p0340 so the 1st thing I did was plugs was fine for 2 weeks now getting the same problem again but no CEL yet
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If you're gonig used with the DIC; make sure the version is TK 3.7 (new version) and not 3.6 (old version under recall) this info would be on the bottom of the DIC.



Don't put the RED T5 where a T7 black DIC is needed; the code P0340 is a CPS malfunction code related to Ignition and injection not being syncronized with the CPS.
Heres my thread on that was running the wrong plugs

http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=236700
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Old 19th September 2012
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I just got my new plugs and DIC , CPS now if i do the plugs and DIC now and CPS in 2 -5 days would this hurt the new DIC? i cant get access to the shop till next monday-tuseday
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Old 20th September 2012
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Just took out the plugs and this is what they looking like after about 1500-1800KM let me know what you think ill be installing the new dic and plugs tonight (do you think i should keep these plugs clean them up or?) im doing the CPS Friday or Monday/Tuesday let me know asap if not do the CPS will hurt the DIC i don't wanna be wasting $500





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just put the new DIC in and plugs , took it out for a spin so far seems to start better ill know more in the morning when i try and start it (thats was the biggest problem in the morning would wanna start, sometimes would start rough then die next time start right up(anyway to test the old DIC), it still kinda has a bit of stumble when in 2nd and giving it some gas to get up and go (like giving it gas as in hitting 5500 and then shifting to see if it will do it) so CPS? or ive cleaned the MAF and new Air filter any help at all???

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so went out this morning and look the plugs out to look at them from going about 4km ran the car for about 15mins with the new plugs and dic and the plugs are black again only after 20mins ? what would cause this? i took a recording of it starting anyway to post it ? it used to do this


now isn't that bad in the video after the 3rd 4th crank mine starts would this be s starter problem ? the battery DIC and plugs are brand new i have a new CPS to be put in
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black plugs would leave me to think your car is running extremely rich, meaning too much fuel and not burning properly.

causes could be faulty injector, bad fuel pressure regulator, faulty firing....as in bad DIC

not sure where I would start, but try cleaning your maf sensor and throttle body
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black plugs would leave me to think your car is running extremely rich, meaning too much fuel and not burning properly.

causes could be faulty injector, bad fuel pressure regulator, faulty firing....as in bad DIC

not sure where I would start, but try cleaning your maf sensor and throttle body
Has a Brand new DIC and cleaned the maf already, i will look into the fuel pressure regulator
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Has a Brand new DIC and cleaned the maf already, i will look into the fuel pressure regulator
was it a factory oem dic or a china knock off? either way it can still be faulty
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Oem from Eeuroparts, so your saying i should send it back for another one ?

Processed 55559955 (Direct Ignition Cassette (Black))
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A red Di Pack will work where a black is required, just as a black will work where a red is required. However, and this is very important, they will NOT work properly and may very well damage your engine in time.

I have seen many 9-5s running a red Di pack.
My 9-5 does. I have an '04 9-5 Arc that I bought with a red DI Pack in it.

From reading this thread, do I have the wrong one? It seems to be running fine for now.
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Oem from Eeuroparts, so your saying i should send it back for another one ?

Processed 55559955 (Direct Ignition Cassette (Black))
if you have someone close to you that you can swap di's with I would give that a try and see if anything changes. if so then id return it for another one
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ive posted asking if someone was close but no luck so guess im **** out luck
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if you don't have a check engine light then I would assume the DIC is good.

but change out your spark plugs and check all of your vacuum lines.
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if you don't have a check engine light then I would assume the DIC is good.

but change out your spark plugs and check all of your vacuum lines.
Plugs are brand new along with vacuum lines (well i haven't done the turbo vacuum lines yet)
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My 9-5 does. I have an '04 9-5 Arc that I bought with a red DI Pack in it.

From reading this thread, do I have the wrong one? It seems to be running fine for now.
Here is what thE WIS will say about these DIC cassettes.

The red one is Trionic T5 whereas the black one is the T7 They are not the same and will damage other components if switched from what is needed in a specific motor.

WIS is quite specific as to the types (4 described) of damage it will likely do and is formal that T5 and T7 should not be switched.
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ive posted asking if someone was close but no luck so guess im **** out luck

I'd suggest you go visit Karl at Scandinavian Auto on Bentley Avenue, he let me try a used one for a few days after which I bought it off of him for $150.00 that was a year ago so I am happy with it.

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if you don't have a check engine light then I would assume the DIC is good.

but change out your spark plugs and check all of your vacuum lines.

I had a DIC go bad without any CEL or codes and hardly any misfires according to a tech2 scan.
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