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Old 18th March 2012
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I have always liked Saabs and have always been a car nut. I finally bought one 1999 9-3 convertible. The top has been converted to manual and the all windows quit working.
The guy I bought the car from told me he has converted the top to manual operation. At the time I did not know what that meant.
I replaced all the window and top relays thinking it would fix the problem. When I tried to put the top down all the windows went down and the top did not budge.
I know now from lurking around I'm stuck with a manual top now. I can deal with that. But when I rolled the windows back up two of them did not function and once up none of the windows work anymore. They worked fine before and I put all the old relays back with no result. I have checked that power is going to the relays and was actually able to roll the windows up hooking direct power to them. I have also checked all the fuses.
Any guidance would be appreciated.
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Old 19th March 2012
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It's hard to say. It might actually be something as simple a switch that's failing, or a bad connection somewhere.

As far as the windows go, I'd get a volt meter and start testing wires for the windows. Start with the switches and work your way back to the fuse panel. Worse case find a vert someone is parting out and grab it's harness for cheap.

As far as the top goes, I'm guessing the PO gutted some of the electronics or the motor, etc. Find a working top in a car being parted out and take everything missing. I know there are at least 2 cars near me getting parted out on Craigslist and another with a bad trans for $850 B/O. So, they're out there
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You also need some electrical diagrams. I'd suggest the Haynes manual. You can search my poster name with "Haynes" for a title keyword and find a post where I posted the name of a US Supplier that's cheap for the 9-3 manual. You could also get a copy of the WIS on Ebay but I find their electrical diagrams a bit hard to follow in a comprehensive way most of the time. Between the two you could certainly track everything down.

My first inclination would be the switch... they often get coffee spills. You can disassemble it and clean all the contacts. They are very robust and can almost always be rebuilt with a little time, cleaning fluid, and maybe a file or sandpaper for the contacts. Medium level DIY ... and do it when you are NOT in a hurry to rebuild the switch.
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thanks for the Info. I found the convertible controller full of water. I'm thinking about leaving the top manual and rewiring the windows switches. I spent some time yesterday looking at the wiring and have figured out what wires control what windows etc..
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Old 19th April 2012
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Does the soft top controller have anything to do with the operation of the windows. In other works if I take it out does it effect the windows?
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