mitts td04hl-15t/5cm2 (Viggen) turbo

[SaabBlackMan]

Hey guy would this turbo work on the 9-5lpt? Someone on another forum is selling it for about $150.

[Chris 9-5]

Originally Posted by SaabBlackMan

Hey guy would this turbo work on the 9-5lpt? Someone on another forum is selling it for about $150.

According to Maptun, they are the same as the 9-5 aero turbo:

TD04HL15T #5 Gar In short: Turbocharger upgrade for output up to 285 hp.

For whom: For those wanting performance beyond stage 3!

Details: New turbocharger, identical to that found on the 9-5 Aero and 9-3 Aero and Viggen. Flow capacity of appr. 285 hp. 100% bolt-on install with purchase of “Water- and oil pipe kit TD04”.

[Jssaab]

Yes buy it that's a good price.

[Raven18940]

...if it isn't knackered

[SaabBlackMan]

Thanks guys I am looking foir a rebuild kit. But if you have any suggestion where I could buy a bebuild kit then shoot me a link.

[Chris 9-5]

Originally Posted by SaabBlackMan

Thanks guys I am looking foir a rebuild kit. But if you have any suggestion where I could buy a bebuild kit then shoot me a link.

http://www.saabperformanceparts.com/item240.htm

[SaabBlackMan]

Originally Posted by Chris 9-5

http://www.saabperformanceparts.com/item240.htm

Thanks Chris U Da Man.. I am going to get that next week.
Has anyone ever done a rebuild? Got any pics. In the mean time Ill search through the forum and see.

Found this Rebuild Kit http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...QQcmdZViewItem
What do you guys think?

I tried unsuccessfully to rebuild one. I suspect there was some warping because i could not get the compressor housing to seal and align properly. This caused the compressor wheel to seize. I then wasted even more money buying a new compressor and turbine/shaft from xsboost only to find the same problem all over again. I got my initial rebuild kit (bearings, seals, thrust bearing, washers)from swedish dynamics. Rebuilding is a major pain in the *****, and even though i had all the tools i could possibly need including my university's machine shop, I could not make it work. I bought a working one from andys auto parts in rochester for $325. The rebuild kits cost $120 plus you'll have to buy circlip pliers to get it open. Garretts are a lot easier to work on, but the DSM turbos are just a pain in the butt.

[SaabBlackMan]

Originally Posted by gto47

I tried unsuccessfully to rebuild one. I suspect there was some warping because i could not get the compressor housing to seal and align properly. This caused the compressor wheel to seize. I then wasted even more money buying a new compressor and turbine/shaft from xsboost only to find the same problem all over again. I got my initial rebuild kit (bearings, seals, thrust bearing, washers)from swedish dynamics. Rebuilding is a major pain in the *****, and even though i had all the tools i could possibly need including my university's machine shop, I could not make it work. I bought a working one from andys auto parts in rochester for $325. The rebuild kits cost $120 plus you'll have to buy circlip pliers to get it open. Garretts are a lot easier to work on, but the DSM turbos are just a pain in the butt.

Yeah thaqt sounds like a pain but I am going to ask my mechanic iof he could do it for me I dont have the tools or time to take on that kinda respsonsibility right now so we will see.

[Jssaab]

Originally Posted by SaabBlackMan

Yeah thaqt sounds like a pain but I am going to ask my mechanic iof he could do it for me I dont have the tools or time to take on that kinda respsonsibility right now so we will see.

I would send it to forced performance or somewhere like that and get it done professionally

Originally Posted by SaabBlackMan

Yeah thaqt sounds like a pain but I am going to ask my mechanic iof he could do it for me I dont have the tools or time to take on that kinda respsonsibility right now so we will see.

Neither does he most likely. Forced performance or xsboost is a good bet for rebuilders. XSboost sell rebuilt turbos on ebay that are so clean that they look like they just came out of the factory. They have a connection in the UK that supplies them with all new internals. Remember, turbos spin at 10s of thousands of RPM, so if they're out of alignment just a little bit, a huge amount of damage can be done to the housings internally. You want to make sure the one you're buying is still salvageable.

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/Turbo-rebuild.html

[SaabBlackMan]

Originally Posted by gto47

Neither does he most likely. Forced performance or xsboost is a good bet for rebuilders. XSboost sell rebuilt turbos on ebay that are so clean that they look like they just came out of the factory. They have a connection in the UK that supplies them with all new internals. Remember, turbos spin at 10s of thousands of RPM, so if they're out of alignment just a little bit, a huge amount of damage can be done to the housings internally. You want to make sure the one you're buying is still salvageable.

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/Turbo-rebuild.html

Yeah the person who i am buying it from says it still works so thats a plus. So I will just have to wait and see what happens.

Originally Posted by SaabBlackMan

Yeah the person who i am buying it from says it still works so thats a plus. So I will just have to wait and see what happens.

Aha - just throw it in then. TD04s are very reliable!

[SectorNine50]

Originally Posted by SaabBlackMan

Yeah the person who i am buying it from says it still works so thats a plus. So I will just have to wait and see what happens.

Wait, then why do you think you need a rebuild kit? Is it actually leaking oil?

[SaabBlackMan]

Originally Posted by SectorNine50

Wait, then why do you think you need a rebuild kit? Is it actually leaking oil?

No he just said it might ned rebuilding for higher boost application. Plus I would feel much better if I knew that it was done and i wouldnt have to worry about getting it done in the future. I mean it has miles on it I dont want that I put it on one day and then it stop working couple days after then i would have to go and pay even more money. right now my car has about 175K and I mean my GT17 is still working not sure when its going to stop working so I am just trying to cover my bases.

[paolo]

If your GT17 is running fine, why would you want to put the TD04 in then?
If you are going to go for a higher state of tune then fine - great idea - but personally I see little point in buying an unknown TDO4 and putting this in just to cover 'all bases'

Remember you've got the cost of all the oil/water lines (not cheap- possibly more than the $150 your paying for the turbo), new oil, oil filter, coolant, not to mention manifold gasket, new turbo studs, possibly stud nuts etc etc. That's if you do it yourself.

Ive put TDO4 on before (both 15t and 18t) and it all starts to add up in cost.

Im replacing my GT17 next week and ive reminded myself on the cost of all the 'incidentals'
Just my thoughts - take care
P

[Jssaab]

at 100 K miles my GT 17 still worked but when I took a better look at it the compressor vanes had started to delaminate ( fall apart) and there for e littel pieces were being blown into the engin. I thinnk it is a good idea to change it out for the Mitsu unit, and it will work better up top too...

[SaabBlackMan]

Originally Posted by paolo

If your GT17 is running fine, why would you want to put the TD04 in then?
If you are going to go for a higher state of tune then fine - great idea - but personally I see little point in buying an unknown TDO4 and putting this in just to cover 'all bases'

Remember you've got the cost of all the oil/water lines (not cheap- possibly more than the $150 your paying for the turbo), new oil, oil filter, coolant, not to mention manifold gasket, new turbo studs, possibly stud nuts etc etc. That's if you do it yourself.

Ive put TDO4 on before (both 15t and 18t) and it all starts to add up in cost.

Im replacing my GT17 next week and ive reminded myself on the cost of all the 'incidentals'
Just my thoughts - take care
P

I see what your saying but I mean hey I was talking to But hey one of my bolts that hooks on the downpipe to the turbo is broken so i have to replace the manifold and they have to remove the turbo to drill out the bolt you see where i am going with this. So I might as well I called SQR which is a tuning company here in Billerica MA and they said it's a good idea to upgrade cause the GT17 are crap (typically) they are getting business.

[SectorNine50]

You don't have to replace ALL of the coolant and oil lines, and if you keep the coolant lines from leaking out all the coolant, you won't have to put new coolant in either. Just install the turbo when doing an oil change and that solves that problem. TD-04's are great, and the stock Aero tune is definately not going to push the TD-04 to it's limits. Remember, people on this site have been running 300 horsepower on the TD-04 for a long time, most without ill effects. I wouldn't bother buying the rebuild kit until you have to in my opinion.

[StX221]

Send it out and get it rebuilt at a turbo shop. That way you can put it in and not worry about it.

Used turbos aren't things to mess around with