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Old 16th September 2010
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Default Timing Marks 99 9-3

OK so I am in the process of breaking down the head for gasket repair. So I have only the intake manifold and chain removal. I found one timing mark on the crank pulley cover and that was all.
1. Where is the mark on the pulley itself.
2. Where are the timing marks for the cams?
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See here.

http://www.saabscene.com/forum/index...topic=31643531

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Thanks. I read that last week and totally did not see the marks on the cams the first time. saw them really good this time. BTW, the crank pulley mark should be inside of the mark on the cover, correct?
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make sure after you line up the marks that you have 15 chain links between the marks on the cams gears
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Thanks everyone. So both cams have marks correct? And do the sprockets themselves have timing marks?
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Re read the thread. Forgot to use this as a reference guide. Did not know the 2 yellow links go below for the camshaft gear on the crank. Easy fix. I need to save that whole site for off line work with the WIS.
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You are welcome. As others have said, I used that site for most repairs.
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What's the word. Really good help so far.
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Ok, so I went out and turned the crank. I saw the yellow colored links but they never lined up with the TDC mark. I turned the crank at least 4-5 full rotations and nothing. So here is what I have. Pics of the cams and a dark pic of crank line. Is this TDC. Crank is in the middle if not barely, ever so slightly to the right.
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Ok, so I went out and turned the crank. I saw the yellow colored links but they never lined up with the TDC mark. I turned the crank at least 4-5 full rotations and nothing. So here is what I have. Pics of the cams and a dark pic of crank line. Is this TDC. Crank is in the middle if not barely, ever so slightly to the right.
Pictures are not showing up for me.
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The crank might be a bit off if you have high mileage and didn't replace all the guides, i went crazy thinking I did it wrong but the car runs fine.
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I think all the colored links are for set up only..Once you spin the motor, the colored links become usless
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Yes the links only match up like 1 out of 20 or whatever the number it is turns, the marks should line up once every 2 revolutions of the crank tho.
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Pictures are not showing up for me.
Perhaps because the thread is five years old
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True but info that I can use is never old. Want to make sure I have tdc after chain has no more tension. I have the camshaft at the timing mark on the cam caps. I also have the engine tdc. I also used the yellow links with the lines on the cams and dot on the can chain gear. After tub ring engine over by hand 4 times. Tensioner clicks out some and the chain shifts. When back at tdc. The yellow links are 2 teeth part the marks.
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Like mentioned, ignore the yellow marks, they just help when you first install the chain (helps to get the number of links between the 2 marks on the cam gears right). Since there are more links on the chain than there are teeth (or 2 x the teeth) on the crank gear there is no way they will ever line up after one full rotation of the engine (2 turns of the crank). In fact unless the number of links on the chain is directly divisible by the number of teeth on the crank gear it could take a huge number of turns until the yellow chain marks lined up again.
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Disregard the colored links now... Just go for proper timing..There is more info on this site if you search and also a Google of saab timing will get you the info you need.The colored links are confusing you now.The colored links confused for me for a bit until i did lots of reading and had a good understanding of where things need to be and how they work. If i remember correctly the cam timing marks will be slightly forward(firewall side) from cap marks with a fresh chain and all guides..Dont rush this; this is a critical set up that needs to be correct- Good luck
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True but info that I can use is never old... /
Just yanking you a little :-)

Photos tend to disappear over time when they are posted on external servers. They are missing from a lot of the old threads.

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Just yanking you a little :-)

Photos tend to disappear over time when they are posted on external servers. They are missing from a lot of the old threads.

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Why I love this forum. Timing and valves are ones I make sure are right. Friend did a intake gasket on a gram prix Saturday. Did not look at push tubes when he took them out. Reinstalled and torqued. Started up and bent a push tube. Intake and exhaust are different sizes he he.
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