AWESOME CAR... I LOVE IT! :p

we thank you.


and see you in about 3 or 4 years, in the meantime take good care of my car.


:cheesy:

Congratulations!....Isn't it great to own a Saab?!? Welcome to the fold....Zebulon

Very lovely car 9.5Aero07.... funny though, I had you figured as a manual driver. ;)

Thanks guy's... :D

This is my third Saab and the best one for sure in term of overall performance... The handling and the power is the big surprise, this car weight 3600 lbs and it feel like a GO-KART! :lol: Wow... Thank's to the Michelin PS2, the F1 shifting and BSR tuning! Just awesome... :p

I have been looking at one here at the dealer and was wondering what the badges are above to side markers?

I have been looking at one here at the dealer and was wondering what the badges are above to side markers?


looks like the first mod. (note his avatar)

or is it? looks from the pics it could be.

Thanks guy's... :D

This is my third Saab and the best one for sure in term of overall performance... The handling and the power is the big surprise, this car weight 3600 lbs and it feel like a GO-KART! :lol: Wow... Thank's to the Michelin PS2, the F1 shifting and BSR tuning! Just awesome... :p


did you own a viggen before?


I like the variation of slit 5 spoke wheels, and the new front is growing on me. in fact I just saw a pic of a new to come honda accord and it looks like they (and others) are starting to emulate it.

Hahaha... It's not a factory VIGGEN, but a high performance dealer package! :lol: They have 2 packages... The Sport and the Race package! I have the Sport Package... The Race was too expensive for me! :(


VIGGEN Sport Package :
17x8 wheel's
245/40/17 Michelin PS2 or PZero Rosso (Your choice)
High performance sway-bar F/R
High performance 3" downpipe with cat
High performance wastegate and dump valve
BSR programmer tuning
K&N air filter drop in

VIGGEN Race Package :
All the Sport Package +
High performance adjustable coilover damper kits
Heavy duty springs-rate
High performance strut-bar F/R
255/40/17 Michelin PS2 or PZero Rosso (Your choice)

What does the package include? I will ask the dealer here if they can do this as well? What is the HP on the 2007 with your package?

What does the package include? I will ask the dealer here if they can do this as well? What is the HP on the 2007 with your package?


They tell me 300HP, but it feel like 350HP... Maybe it's the high level of TQ? I don't think, you can do the same my friend? You have a 2002 not a 06"-07"...???

Hahaha... It's not a factory VIGGEN, but a high performance dealer package! :lol: They have 2 packages... The Sport and the Race package! I have the Sport Package... The Race was too expensive for me! :(


VIGGEN Sport Package :
17x8 wheel's
245/40/17 Michelin PS2 or PZero Rosso (Your choice)
High performance sway-bar F/R
High performance 3" downpipe with cat
High performance wastegate and dump valve
BSR programmer tuning
K&N air filter drop in

VIGGEN Race Package :
All the Sport Package +
High performance adjustable coilover damper kits
Heavy duty springs-rate
High performance strut-bar F/R
255/40/17 Michelin PS2 or PZero Rosso (Your choice)

that's cool, didn't know they had such dealer packages. well... I wouldn't be surprised to find they don't offer that in the US or especially california. *sniff

that's cool, didn't know they had such dealer packages. well... I wouldn't be surprised to find they don't offer that in the US or especially california. *sniff


If your dealer don't do... Do it yourself hahaha! :lol: You have the mod's list now... ;)

If your dealer don't do... Do it yourself hahaha! :lol: You have the mod's list now... ;)


actually... I would do it myself. ;)


but that doesn't take away from the fact that many, yourself included, might prefer to purchase such a vehicle new set up like that straight from a dealer. and when that is an option it's cool to have.

Ahh, those seats are soo comfy and beutiful!, wish I had them!

Amaizing car!
Many happy miles with it.
All dealers must do so.Great idea.:cheesy:

The wastegate thingy is interesting, no other tuner seems to specify these :confused:

Just a shame its an auto - looks great ;)

As for doing these mods yourself, you would void your warranty, which was a large chunk of the price paid :cry:

Hahaha... It's not a factory VIGGEN, but a high performance dealer package! :lol: They have 2 packages... The Sport and the Race package! I have the Sport Package... The Race was too expensive for me! :(


VIGGEN Sport Package :
17x8 wheel's
245/40/17 Michelin PS2 or PZero Rosso (Your choice)
High performance sway-bar F/R
High performance 3" downpipe with cat
High performance wastegate and dump valve
BSR programmer tuning
K&N air filter drop in

VIGGEN Race Package :
All the Sport Package +
High performance adjustable coilover damper kits
Heavy duty springs-rate
High performance strut-bar F/R
255/40/17 Michelin PS2 or PZero Rosso (Your choice)
ok my question is this: who is the manufacturer for these upgrades in bold above? We need to find out b/c to my knowledge these can't be purchased anywhere. Well let me correct that:

Sway bars
- either they are Aero spec or, if they are bigger, who's the manufacturer so we can source these? The only one bigger than the Aero's was that guy "rayyang" or whomever that was in Asia trying to charge too much so we cancelled the group buy.

coilover kit?!?!?!
- there's a kit for 9-5's up to 2001 of course, but I've NEVER seen one for the updated hub design. Is the front suspension setup the same in the '06+ models as in the '02-'05 models? If so I want this coilover kit. Again, where do we source these?

strut bars
- "moose"parts has a front strut tower brace, but that's the only one I've seen, and it's for left-hand drive cars. I've NEVER seen a rear one available. Lastly, where do we source these?

Everything else listed can be had aftermarket. If anyone can get some leads on this stuff it would be very helpful in the search! Cheers.

Hahaha... It's not a factory VIGGEN, but a high performance dealer package! :lol: They have 2 packages... The Sport and the Race package! I have the Sport Package... The Race was too expensive for me! :(


VIGGEN Sport Package...

VIGGEN Race Package...


couple thoughts...

...looks like a dealer's shot at a factory stage 3...or close. :confused: with the option of an upgraded suspension.

...hopefully they don't offer this power increase on the standard 9-5 suspension. :o

...i guess the dealer can do whatever they want, but not sure about the viggen badges. imo they look out of place.

...i've seen other brands offer special "dealer packages" although this is VERY rare. i doubt you'd see this on a audi, volvo, bmw. and you have to be careful with servicing and warranty claims as other dealers may not honor the selling dealerships coverage.

...nice seats and nice car! http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

Strange it has the stock intercooler too :confused:

Strange it has the stock intercooler too :confused:
Maybe it doesn't, or maybe the 06-07 intercooler is better, who knows.

Thank's again guy's for your nice comments and questions... :D

I'm gone a try to answers it! But it's not a easy thing to do, without any copy/paste set-up or maybe my personnel options User CP have a bad set-up? I don't know?... Because I cannot COPY & PASTE the infos you need here??? :(

actually... I would do it myself. ;)


but that doesn't take away from the fact that many, yourself included, might prefer to purchase such a vehicle new set up like that straight from a dealer. and when that is an option it's cool to have.


I understand what you say... But you have to buy the car NEW to have that! It's nice to do it with the dealer, because you don't have any warranty issues... ;)

Ahh, those seats are soo comfy and beutiful!, wish I had them!


The seat are awesome... It's look like handcraft made! It's a MASTERPIECE... :o It's feel like a luxury RECARO leather seat! A beauty... They are also heated Front/Rear! :p

Amaizing car!
Many happy miles with it.
All dealers must do so.Great idea.:cheesy:


I think every dealers should do that... ;)

The wastegate thingy is interesting, no other tuner seems to specify these :confused:

Just a shame its an auto - looks great ;)

As for doing these mods yourself, you would void your warranty, which was a large chunk of the price paid :cry:


The adjustable wastegate look like my KINETIC... I have a Dodge SRT-4 also and the best wastegate on market right now for my SRT-4 is the KINETIC, you can put 30 lbs of boost on it without any problem, just turn the bolt's! Hahaha... It's look so similar??? Ummm maybe it's the same...

Automatic trany... Do you ever try the new Sentronic 5 speeds trany? It's a wonderful trany set-up that allows manuel gear changes using paddles on the steering wheel like F1 style and the current gear is indicated on the instrument panel! It's probably faster than the old manuel primitive gear box to tell you the true... ;)

Yeah your right, the warranty is ligit when you do the works at the dealer, but you pay the price also! :lol:

ok my question is this: who is the manufacturer for these upgrades in bold above? We need to find out b/c to my knowledge these can't be purchased anywhere. Well let me correct that:

Sway bars
- either they are Aero spec or, if they are bigger, who's the manufacturer so we can source these? The only one bigger than the Aero's was that guy "rayyang" or whomever that was in Asia trying to charge too much so we cancelled the group buy.

coilover kit?!?!?!
- there's a kit for 9-5's up to 2001 of course, but I've NEVER seen one for the updated hub design. Is the front suspension setup the same in the '06+ models as in the '02-'05 models? If so I want this coilover kit. Again, where do we source these?

strut bars
- "moose"parts has a front strut tower brace, but that's the only one I've seen, and it's for left-hand drive cars. I've NEVER seen a rear one available. Lastly, where do we source these?

Everything else listed can be had aftermarket. If anyone can get some leads on this stuff it would be very helpful in the search! Cheers.



Okay... First, the swar-bar are Saab Sport... I saw the sway-bar box beside the car on the pit! :lol:

The Coilover Damper kit and springs is a Hirsch set-up... ;)

The strut-bar... I really don't know??? Sorry :(

couple thoughts...

...looks like a dealer's shot at a factory stage 3...or close. :confused: with the option of an upgraded suspension.

...hopefully they don't offer this power increase on the standard 9-5 suspension. :o

...i guess the dealer can do whatever they want, but not sure about the viggen badges. imo they look out of place.

...i've seen other brands offer special "dealer packages" although this is VERY rare. i doubt you'd see this on a audi, volvo, bmw. and you have to be careful with servicing and warranty claims as other dealers may not honor the selling dealerships coverage.

...nice seats and nice car! http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif


OK, your next... :lol:

The stock power on a 9.5 2007 here in Canada is 260HP with 273TQ...

The dealer package are made ONLY with the Aero one, not the basic 9.5!

I think 40HP more is not a big deal for the Aero... This car handle like it was on rails! The bigger sway-bar help a little bit, but the Pilot PS2 make almost all the job... It's amazing what a high quality tire can do! :o

They honor the warranty because... I buy a new car from them, I buy the parts from them and also they do all the mod's works! ;)

He said that "other" dealers may not.

Strange it has the stock intercooler too :confused:


Well... If it's good for 260HP it's also good for 300HP, I guest! Don't you think? ;)

Well... If it's good for 260HP it's also good for 300HP, I guest! Don't you think? ;)

No actually :confused:

Maybe it doesn't, or maybe the 06-07 intercooler is better, who knows.

The 06-07 Intercooler is a little bit bigger and better also, due to the high level of TQ they have! ;)

He said that "other" dealers may not.


I guest he's right... :(

As for doing these mods yourself, you would void your warranty, which was a large chunk of the price paid :cry:


that's a good point. so when you have a warranty, and with 100k warrantees it's typically going to be awhile, doing it yourself brings a whole different aspect to the table. maybe they should go back to 36k warrantees. :cheesy:

how many tuners, when professionaly done, don't void warrantees? hirsch and maybe nordic? any others?

Just Hirsch doesnt void the factory warranty.

Whats the part number for the new improved 06-07 intercooler please?

The stock power on a 9.5 2007 here in Canada is 260HP with 273TQ...

The stock power is 260hp, 258 ft-lbs everywhere, including Canada ;]. 273 ft-lbs is the torque in overboost mode, which is only available with a manual gearbox (no overboost with automatic, sorry).

The intercooler for 2006-2007 has the exact same part number as for earler years, so nothing's changed here.

All in all, it looks like a made-up dealer package, they resell BSR and make their customers happy. Not a bad thing if one stop shopping and warranty are the things you're looking for.

The stock power is 260hp, 258 ft-lbs everywhere, including Canada ;]. 273 ft-lbs is the torque in overboost mode, which is only available with a manual gearbox (no overboost with automatic, sorry).

The intercooler for 2006-2007 has the exact same part number as for earler years, so nothing's changed here.



Yes thats my understanding too.

Hirsch doesnt have any coil over chassi parts among their products.

At least the colour is probably right :p

Hirsch doesnt have any coil over chassi parts among their products.


You're totally wrong buddy... I saw the Hirsch damper kits by myself on a Aero 2007, it was on the showroom! :evil:

At least the colour is probably right :p


Yeah like you see... The car is probably YELLOW! :lol:

...............:nono; Zebulon

...............:nono; Zebulon


Hahaha... I just need a link to find out about the HIRSCH damper kits? Don't worry buddy! ;)

Here we have some magic Tom people's! Everytime I put a link for the parts I have in my car... Buff it's gone! :lol:

Okay... First, the swar-bar are Saab Sport... I saw the sway-bar box beside the car on the pit!
Saab Sport? Anybody know what this is if they are bigger than a stock Aero?

The Coilover Damper kit and springs is a Hirsch set-up...
Hirsch doesnt have any coil over chassi parts among their products.
93t is right my friend. Spring and damper kit - yes; coilover kit - no. Trust me if you were running a coilover kit you would feel it in your a**e.

The strut-bar... I really don't know??? Sorry
Could you take a picture of the front and rear strut bars and post them please? I'm very interested in seeing them to help identify.

What's your point buddy...? :lol:

You know about the SAAB Sport sway-bar... You know about HIRSCH Damper kits... So??? :confused:

I don't know about the strut-bar name, because I don't have the Race Package and I cannot take a pics on something I don't have... Jezz :evil:

What's your point buddy...? :lol:

You know about the SAAB Sport sway-bar... You know about HIRSCH Damper kits... So??? :confused:
My point is that we are trying to find out if there is indeed a bigger sway bar kit than the factory Aero 21mm/17mm. If there is, then we need to know b/c I want it!:cheesy: Also a lot of people want a coilover kit for there cars (2002+) but can't get them b/c they aren't available past 2001. If you get on here and start saying there is a coilover kit available for these cars then of course we will immediately question you very specifically to find out if there is one or not for the facelift models. No harm intended, just trying to get the facts right!
I don't know about the strut-bar name, because I don't have the Race Package and I cannot take a pics on something I don't have... Jezz :evil:
That's my mistake ;oops: I was too excited and I was thinking you had the race package. Apologies there, I've just been wanting to find a rear strut brace so badly. Honestly I can't see how the thing would be made since our rear struts attach directly in the wheel well; Maybe something like this?
http://www.saabsavior.com/images/custom%20parts/9-3_ng900/rear_brace.jpg

I love you all, each and everyone of you :p

What's your point buddy...?

The point is rather simple.

You just listed a bunch of parts. These parts are highly desirable by many Saab enthusiasts. Unfortunately, according to the common knowledge, these parts do not exist for the given car generation/model year. So when you show up and say your dealer sells them, people start asking for details so they can get them too.

The reality is, either you are or the dealer are deeply misinformed, or they are sourcing parts from the future or some alternative universe.

Heck, there are three Saab dealers in Montreal. I might call them all on Monday and ask where are they getting this stuff from ;]

Heck, there are three Saab dealers in Montreal. I might call them all on Monday and ask where are they getting this stuff from ;]

Now thats a great idea :p

I love you all, each and everyone of you :p
ditto right here ;)

The point is rather simple.

You just listed a bunch of parts. These parts are highly desirable by many Saab enthusiasts. Unfortunately, according to the common knowledge, these parts do not exist for the given car generation/model year. So when you show up and say your dealer sells them, people start asking for details so they can get them too.
Precisely!

The reality is, either you are or the dealer are deeply misinformed, or they are sourcing parts from the future or some alternative universe.
Here here!

Heck, there are three Saab dealers in Montreal. I might call them all on Monday and ask where are they getting this stuff from ;]
do it do it do it!!

If dip ran for president, I'd vote for him.:cheesy:


I love you all, each and everyone of you :p
Aero love back atcha Chris...:o ...wait strike that from the record your honor.

The point is rather simple.

You just listed a bunch of parts. These parts are highly desirable by many Saab enthusiasts. Unfortunately, according to the common knowledge, these parts do not exist for the given car generation/model year. So when you show up and say your dealer sells them, people start asking for details so they can get them too.

The reality is, either you are or the dealer are deeply misinformed, or they are sourcing parts from the future or some alternative universe.

Heck, there are three Saab dealers in Montreal. I might call them all on Monday and ask where are they getting this stuff from ;]


Do you know what is the problem here my friends... I cannot put a any link of the parts here! Because if SAABCENTRAL doesn't sale them you cannot put an other link... You know that sir, don't you?

Don't play with me... It's enough!!! :evil:

Do you know what is the problem here my friends... I cannot put a any link of the parts here! Because if SAABCENTRAL doesn't sale them you cannot put an other link... You know that sir, don't you?

Don't play with me... It's enough!!! :evil:

Thats not true :nono;

Saab Central doesnt sell parts anyway :roll:

Thats not true :nono;

Saab Central doesnt sell parts anyway :roll:



SAAB CENTRAL = PartsforSaab :lol:

SAAB CENTRAL = PartsforSaab :lol:

Again wrong :nono;

So just tell me the company name for these parts then, the name that you say keeps getting deleted :confused:

Lets look at this again:

VIGGEN Sport Package :
17x8 wheel's
245/40/17 Michelin PS2 or PZero Rosso (Your choice)
High performance sway-bar F/R
High performance 3" downpipe with cat
High performance wastegate and dump valve
BSR programmer tuning
K&N air filter drop in

VIGGEN Race Package :
All the Sport Package +
High performance adjustable coilover damper kits
Heavy duty springs-rate
High performance strut-bar F/R
255/40/17 Michelin PS2 or PZero Rosso (Your choice)

The springs are on the coilover kit - so why are springs listed seperately?

I cannot find any sway / anti roll bars beyond Aero spec for the cars, except the thicker rear one from Ray Yang.

I really dont get the uprated wastegate at all ..........

The only upgrade BSR list for the 2006 Aero is one at 273bhp

http://www.bsrab.se/products//t873/

Yes that's right sir... Everytime I put the name of the links, it's automaticly erase??? It's tough to put something else here who is not related to PARTSFORSAABS... Hahaha :lol:

Yes that's right sir... Everytime I put the name of the links, it's automaticly erase??? It's tough to put something else here who is not related to PARTSFORSAABS... Hahaha :lol:

Spell the word out with a space between each letter then :(

Mommy, the 9-5 people are scaring me. They're all yelling and angry:cry:.;)

Spell the word out with a space between each letter then :(

Are you crazy the link have arround 60 letters... Just forget it man! :lol:

Talk to your boss for taking out those stupid webmaster thing... :roll:

Have a good day my friend! :cool:

Mommy, the 9-5 people are scaring me. They're all yelling and angry:cry:.;)


Yeah, your right buddy... It's look like some stupid children's in Chinatown! :evil:

Are you crazy the link have arround 60 letters... Just forget it man! :lol:

Talk to your boss for taking out those stupid webmaster thing... :roll:

Have a good day my friend! :cool:


9.5Aero07...we're not asking for the link...just the COMPANY NAME that makes the parts you've mentioned. for example, hirsch is one of the company names you mentioned. BSR is another. instead of attempting to post the link, can you try to post the NAME of the manufacturer. that should be much less than 60 letters. :lol:

...be a sport and share this info with your fellow 9-5ers! :cheesy:

I dont get it, how hard is it to take pictures of the "upgrades" on this car?

9.5Aero07, apparently it wasnt hard to post the original pictures on page one, how about a couple more to shut us up?

Go to SAAB LINK NET for more info's... Sorry about that! ;oops:

http://www.e l k parts.com/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/62/products_id/1799
http://www.e l k parts.com/product_info.php/products_id/3231
http://www.e l k parts.com/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/30/products_id/3223
http://www.e l k parts.com/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/30/products_id/237

Nothing new here folks.

So your links are:

Standard Hirsch suspension - not coil over and as available from PFS
Standard front strut brace - as available for LHD from PFS
Standard Forge Dump Valve - as available from PFS
Standard Forge adjustable wastegate
The parts we want to know about are in red below:

VIGGEN Sport Package :
17x8 wheel's
245/40/17 Michelin PS2 or PZero Rosso (Your choice)
High performance sway-bar F/R
High performance 3" downpipe with cat
High performance wastegate and dump valve
BSR programmer tuning
K&N air filter drop in

VIGGEN Race Package :
All the Sport Package +
High performance adjustable coilover damper kits
Heavy duty springs-rate
High performance strut-bar F/R
255/40/17 Michelin PS2 or PZero Rosso (Your choice)

Personally I think you have a standard Aero with a triangle yellow badge stuck on it :roll:

So why make a song a dance about 4 products almost all of which PFS sell so you could link them directly especially when they are not the parts people are asking about :evil:

PS none of those parts add power so how come BSR state 273bhp and you claim 300 :nono;

Hi,

I find this fishy too, I picked up the 2006 95 with "Sport Package" back in Nov, there was no other package available. Both 2006 and 2007 models are Aero models, with the sport package lowering the suspension by 10mm.
I had priced both MY but was able to find what I wanted at the right price because of all the incentives on the 2006 model.

Unless they changed things recently, which I doubt, the 2006 and 2007 are the same, and I spoke and dealt with two dealers in Montreal.

Quick question, do you have the Aero badge/badges, pictures please.

Yep, I think you've got it Chris.

Sway bars are standard on the sports chassis, so since you have an Aero, you have the standard Aero sway bars, just like every 02+.

Suspension is upgraded, but not to coilovers... just standard spring/damper pair. This is fine... the Hirsch suspension is amazing, but it is false to claim coilovers.

There is a known front strut bar (made by sp33dparts), but no known rear one for any model 9-5.

So after all of those words, you've got a stock aero with a viggen sticker, downpipe, and stage 3 tune. That is still pretty awesome, I just hope you didn't pay too much for it :confused:

By the way, your dealer was incorrect about the catback. On a stage 3 tune (especially a flaky BSR one), replacing the catback is quite necessary compared to lower stages. Your exhaust gas temperatures will rise much faster with the increased backpressure, so I would avoid long periods of acceleration if I were you.

Actually stipud, it's most likely a stage 1 tune as I don't believe BSR offers anything above that for the 06/07 Aero's. Well, he shouldn't have to worry about the catback in that case. :p

Dont forget that the hirsch kit mentioned is no only "not coilovers" but also "not on the car" - its not part of the more keenly priced "sport package" :roll:

We have a word for this in Swedish - "mytoman" - a person who lies to get attention.

We have a word for this in Swedish - "mytoman" - a person who lies to get attention.
I think he copied that from his dealer's page. I wouldn't go so far as to call him a liar... just excited.

How about pics of your car ???

How about pics of your car ???

They are on the first page!

pics are gone

pics are gone

I'm sorry, you are quite right - perhaps it was all a dream :o

Still here: http://www.saablink.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16494

First they take the Aero badge off the 9-5 and slap it on the 9-3. Now they are taking the Viggen badge and putting it on a 9-5!?! Whats this world coming to, saab cant seem to make up thier minds about where to put the badges. The Aero badge never should have left the 9-5 nor its boot location. Noone notices that i have an Aero with the marker on the front fender nice and small :cheesy:


I love those two tone seats, they are beautiful! Now that saab actually endorses a 9-5 Aero again and not just the 9-5 Sport Package i might have to test drive an 07 for some fun. Price is still a little steep though.

Saab didnt do that, a dealer did..........allegedly :roll:

I'd be pretty sad if a dealer ripped someone off like that, especially with out extreme it seems to be.

I love those two tone seats, they are beautiful! Now that saab actually endorses a 9-5 Aero again and not just the 9-5 Sport Package i might have to test drive an 07 for some fun. Price is still a little steep though.

Steep? :o

The 2007 9-5 Aero costs less now than my 1999 LPT did back when it was new!

And it is about 5x the car that mine is ... how can that be too steep?:roll:

(don't get me wrong, I'm not running out to buy one either ... but the value certainly is there)

Pssssssst.......whats he doing in our forum :confused:

Pssssssst.......whats he doing in our forum :confused:


Shhhhhhhhhh..whats who doing in which forum?

Steep? :o

The 2007 9-5 Aero costs less now than my 1999 LPT did back when it was new!

And it is about 5x the car that mine is ... how can that be too steep?:roll:

(don't get me wrong, I'm not running out to buy one either ... but the value certainly is there)


Oh the value is certainly there, no doubt about that. Saab unlike BMW actually kept the classy distinguished lines of the 9-5. I love the fender/bonnet split that creates that line like a grin all the way around the front.

The one i "built" on saabs site priced out at over 43K US. I did price out the aero model with special seats and all the nice packages. I imagine you could get one, especially an lpt for a pretty decent price. The Aero i have cost me 17K so more than double the cost is steep in comparison. Of course if i were to really use the word in reference to a car the new DB9 would really be steep.

Oh the value is certainly there, no doubt about that. Saab unlike BMW actually kept the classy distinguished lines of the 9-5. I love the fender/bonnet split that creates that line like a grin all the way around the front.

The one i "built" on saabs site priced out at over 43K US. I did price out the aero model with special seats and all the nice packages. I imagine you could get one, especially an lpt for a pretty decent price. The Aero i have cost me 17K so more than double the cost is steep in comparison. Of course if i were to really use the word in reference to a car the new DB9 would really be steep.
There is no LPT or Aero version anymore, they all have the same engine, you can just get the sport package which is tighter suspension basically. :confused:

There is no LPT or Aero version anymore, they all have the same engine, you can just get the sport package which is tighter suspension basically. :confused:

Everything has been replaced by the Special 9-5 Viggen package, have you heard of it? :confused:

Everything has been replaced by the Special 9-5 Viggen package, have you heard of it? :confused:
Oh... My bad... I forgot... ;)

There is no LPT or Aero version anymore, they all have the same engine, you can just get the sport package which is tighter suspension basically. :confused:

They have the aero again for 07. At least in the US, i was able to add the Aero package to a 9-5 i was building and this thread is all about an Aero. It has an Aero badge on it in the pics.

They have the aero again for 07. At least in the US, i was able to add the Aero package to a 9-5 i was building and this thread is all about an Aero. It has an Aero badge on it in the pics.
Oh, I stand corrected, I didn't know they brought back the Aero.

Everything has been replaced by the Special 9-5 Viggen package, have you heard of it? :confused:

That is not the case.

This "Viggen" package is offered by the dealer ... and supported only by the dealer.
The base warranty will be covered by Saab, but I would hate to see what Saab would do if something actually goes wrong.
They are not supportive of mods affecting the engine ... and some of that work has certainly been done here.

I think the dealer would be on the hook for anything that Saab wouldn't cover due to the mods ...

Oh, I stand corrected, I didn't know they brought back the Aero.

I realized on my way home after posting that we were both right in a way. They did bring back the Aero, but its mostly cosmetic with some suspension changes. Traditionally the Aero was a larger engine as well as cosmetic and suspension changes. The best i could see was all 9-5 models had the 260bhp engine and nothing was improved engine wise just by getting the aero package.

So i gues they brought back the badge, but it was mostly to sell some fancy extras. The nice thing i saw was the aero package only added 1095 US to the price of the car. For that amount i cant imagine the package does what it did for our MY aeros.

That is not the case.

This "Viggen" package is offered by the dealer ... and supported only by the dealer.
The base warranty will be covered by Saab, but I would hate to see what Saab would do if something actually goes wrong.
They are not supportive of mods affecting the engine ... and some of that work has certainly been done here.

I think the dealer would be on the hook for anything that Saab wouldn't cover due to the mods ...

Scott, i think Chris was being sarcastic. I think we can all agree this dealer is odd by placing the viggen badge and doing non-saab sanctioned mods. I would be very hesitant about buying a car done like this if i didnt have the skills to fix the mods myself.

Scott, i think Chris was being sarcastic.

Maybe :p

I realized on my way home after posting that we were both right in a way. They did bring back the Aero, but its mostly cosmetic with some suspension changes. Traditionally the Aero was a larger engine as well as cosmetic and suspension changes. The best i could see was all 9-5 models had the 260bhp engine and nothing was improved engine wise just by getting the aero package.

So i gues they brought back the badge, but it was mostly to sell some fancy extras. The nice thing i saw was the aero package only added 1095 US to the price of the car. For that amount i cant imagine the package does what it did for our MY aeros.

I really don't know what your refering to with "nothing was improved engine wise"

Well the engine is still the 2.3L, I haven't heard about bigger, there is a smaller 2.0L though.
The other part in the Aero is the High Output Turbo, and then the ECU mapping, among other things, Aero seats, suspension, which by the way are all in the 2006, 2007 models

The $1095 difference is basically just internal finish upgrades, BECAUSE they are already AEROs.

Ohh and BTW I ran the VIN # and guess what it's an AERO.

Regards,
CSE_20

What he was saying is that all the new 9-5's have the same engine specs, at least here in the US. The HO turbo come standard on them, and what he was saying was that the "Aero" variant of the newer 9-5's is seats, some suspension work, and a badge.

It seems someone had trouble understanding that it's not a package or that it "can't be an Aero for that money" when it's stock.

Well in Canada there is one model, AERO without a badge.

Regards,
CSE_20

It seems someone had trouble understanding that it's not a package or that it "can't be an Aero for that money" when it's stock.

Well in Canada there is one model, AERO without a badge.

Regards,
CSE_20
In 2006 they were just considered 9-5's. There were no Aeros, but there was a sport package. In 2007 they decided to name the sport package the "Aero Package" when it is essentially the same thing. What he was saying by "can't be an Aero for that money" was that if it were an Aero by pre-2006 standards then the engine would have more power, therefore costing more money.

The reason yours does not have an Aero badge is GM got rid of all Aero stuff for that year, then people complained, and so they brought it back. So in a technicality, your sport package would make the VIN show up as an Aero in old model terms because the Aero was basically a sport package with a powerful engine.

I think what your misunderstanding is that GM stripped the name "Aero" from the 260 hp 4 cylinder engine. Now non-Aeros have that engine but do not have the Aero suspension set-up. Aero is a package, a suspension and cosmetic package, but not an engine upgrade. Maybe in the future the Aero will be associated with a more powerful engine once again.

In 2006 they were just considered 9-5's. There were no Aeros, but there was a sport package. In 2007 they decided to name the sport package the "Aero Package" when it is essentially the same thing. What he was saying by "can't be an Aero for that money" was that if it were an Aero by pre-2006 standards then the engine would have more power, therefore costing more money.

The reason yours does not have an Aero badge is GM got rid of all Aero stuff for that year, then people complained, and so they brought it back. So in a technicality, your sport package would make the VIN show up as an Aero in old model terms because the Aero was basically a sport package with a powerful engine.

I think what your misunderstanding is that GM stripped the name "Aero" from the 260 hp 4 cylinder engine. Now non-Aeros have that engine but do not have the Aero suspension set-up. Aero is a package, a suspension and cosmetic package, but not an engine upgrade. Maybe in the future the Aero will be associated with a more powerful engine once again.



the aero package is nice and all, but the VIGGEN package rules! http://forums.maxima.org/images/smilies/headbang.gif

Hi SectorNine50,

No, for Manufacture Year 2006 & 2007 both dealers I know very well and a independant master saab mechanic specifically said they are Aeros.
I really don't think just a sport suspension would make it qualify as a supposedly Aero, as you stated.
In MY 2006 and 2007 GM got rid of the lower models, ARc and linear, just one model Aero, not the other way around.
Please re-read your last sentence.
How much more power from an engine do you need for it to be an Aero? All 2006 & 2007 models are rated 260 HP. Why do future Aeros need to be associated with a more powerful engine? When pre 2006 they were under this HP?

I have driven pre-2006 Aeros, I have been driving Saabs for the last 15 odd years, and my current Saab is a definite improvement, performance wise

Now for those who shelled out big bucks to get a "package" and a badge, pre 2006 then don't be upset because 2006 or 2007 models are stock Aeros!

The build quality compared to my last MY '93 9000 CSE is not the same, but performace wise it is way way better.

Sorry, but it's going to take alot more to convince me otherwise.

Regards,
CSE_20


In 2006 they were just considered 9-5's. There were no Aeros, but there was a sport package. In 2007 they decided to name the sport package the "Aero Package" when it is essentially the same thing. What he was saying by "can't be an Aero for that money" was that if it were an Aero by pre-2006 standards then the engine would have more power, therefore costing more money.

The reason yours does not have an Aero badge is GM got rid of all Aero stuff for that year, then people complained, and so they brought it back. So in a technicality, your sport package would make the VIN show up as an Aero in old model terms because the Aero was basically a sport package with a powerful engine.

I think what your misunderstanding is that GM stripped the name "Aero" from the 260 hp 4 cylinder engine. Now non-Aeros have that engine but do not have the Aero suspension set-up. Aero is a package, a suspension and cosmetic package, but not an engine upgrade. Maybe in the future the Aero will be associated with a more powerful engine once again.

When is the next Saab meet in your area, I'm ready to come down with others and chat!
Regards,
cse_20

the aero package is nice and all, but the VIGGEN package rules! http://forums.maxima.org/images/smilies/headbang.gif

Amen to that brother :cool:

Hi SectorNine50,

No, for Manufacture Year 2006 & 2007 both dealers I know very well and a independant master saab mechanic specifically said they are Aeros.
I really don't think just a sport suspension would make it qualify as a supposedly Aero, as you stated.
In MY 2006 and 2007 GM got rid of the lower models, ARc and linear, just one model Aero, not the other way around.
Please re-read your last sentence.
How much more power from an engine do you need for it to be an Aero? All 2006 & 2007 models are rated 260 HP. Why do future Aeros need to be associated with a more powerful engine? When pre 2006 they were under this HP?

I have driven pre-2006 Aeros, I have been driving Saabs for the last 15 odd years, and my current Saab is a definite improvement, performance wise

Now for those who shelled out big bucks to get a "package" and a badge, pre 2006 then don't be upset because 2006 or 2007 models are stock Aeros!

The build quality compared to my last MY '93 9000 CSE is not the same, but performace wise it is way way better.

Sorry, but it's going to take alot more to convince me otherwise.

Regards,
CSE_20
I think we might be confusing each other. I'm not saying that the current 9-5 is not an Aero, but instead GM stripped the name from the engine specs, by which the older Aeros were mainly signified by. So what I am saying is, yes, it is Aero spec and everything, but GM decided it did not want the badge on it for some reason. Not sure why they removed the name Viggen from the 9-3, I guess it could be legal issues as Saab still owns the Viggen jet by which it was named after. Anyway, I understand completely what you are saying, I was simply stating that the new model 9-5's were Aero de-badged, and now to get the badge, you have to buy the "sport package," which is now labeled the "aero package." I am in no way trying to say that the current 9-5's are not up to snuff with the Aero name, they basically ARE Aeros, but once again, GM decided to rid the car of the title.

Remember, I am just talking about the name the company decided to give the vehicle, not it's worth or performance.

When is the next Saab meet in your area, I'm ready to come down with others and chat!
Regards,
cse_20
Were you asking me this? If so, I don't know of any Saab meets in my area. I guess I'd have to look around on the lounge to find anything out. :roll:

Anyway, I understand completely what you are saying, I was simply stating that the new model 9-5's were Aero de-badged, and now to get the badge, you have to buy the "sport package," which is now labeled the "aero package." I am in no way trying to say that the current 9-5's are not up to snuff with the Aero name, they basically ARE Aeros, but once again, GM decided to rid the car of the title.

When buying an "Aero" in Canada or the US, you pay $200 (in Canada anyway, not sure of the price in the US) and get the sports suspension, sport seats, and metallic interior trim. Plus the Aero badging.

The drive train (as already discussed at length) is exactly the same regardless.

If you were to ask me, the $200 is very easily and well spent money if buying a 2007 model.

Hi,
The sport "package" ($1000 something) includes, the lowered 10mm suspension, seats, doors sills, and interior aluminum trim, at least that's what I have.

Maybe they should of asked me if I wanted a badge for $200.00
No badge here. Maybe I can pick one up online for alot less.

Regards,
Cse_20

Sorry I confused the visability package, your right the "Aero" package is $200.00, at least for 2007.
For 2006 I don't remember, but I'm begining to think I'm missing some badges

Regards,
cse_20

Sorry I confused the visability package, your right the "Aero" package is $200.00, at least for 2007.
For 2006 I don't remember, but I'm begining to think I'm missing some badges

Regards,
cse_20


The Aero badges weren't offered in '06, regardless of the packages available.

Just think of you car as the stealth model! :cool: