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Palmer1980
23-11-06, 02:28 AM
I'm not going to follow the "format" for this thread for now.

I will later on.

My goals are to build this car to a level of power that will be a REAL good time, and enjoy the somewhat graceful aging of a C900. It will also look as close as possible to stock/use only saab parts on the outside.

I sold my 2000 9-3 to keep this, and in bad weather I ride my bike to work to keep this car nice.

How I found the 900:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/1986saab900002.jpg
I looked at the odometer, and nearly shat myself. It's all documented too.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/1986saab900001.jpg
Old stupid doorcards:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/900doorcards002.jpg
New sweet doorcards:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P8180014.jpg



Engine Post RFLBOV install:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/900BOV006.jpg
MESH!
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/MESHEXz017-1.jpg

Palmer1980
23-11-06, 02:32 AM
Not all is fun and games though. I have chased down a few gremlins, and replaced all the boring stuff like fluids, filters, and wires. I have gone through and shampooed the interior by hand, and did a deep cleaning of all the plastics.

I have also replaced the brake booster/master when those went out.

When the exhaust fell off, my friend and I made a system in his garage out of a 9000 muffler and bits of 2.5" and 3" tubing. It's not quiet.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/900Exhaust001.jpg
CANNON!

Exhaust/BOVSounds:http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g177/jvkrocak/Videos/?action=view&current=Andyc900Tdriveby.flv

This is the 9000 fuel rail and 3.0 FPR I have on there right now:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/900injectors.jpg

Palmer1980
23-11-06, 02:36 AM
This lives in the upper part of the lower cubby, and keeps me informed of what is going on with the car:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/LDEEZ.jpg


There is also an Autometer boost/vac gauge on the dash, as well as a Autometer A/F gauge
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SaabAFgauge.jpg
You can see the digi readout on the bottom, and the two Autometer gauges on top of the dash.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SaabAFgauge005.jpg

Palmer1980
23-11-06, 02:41 AM
Plans for the winter:

-Post 88' axle/brake swap.
-SPG wheels! I'm picking these up on the 26th of this month. They are attaced to a 1989 SPG with issues that I am picking up for $300, and mining for parts.
-FMIC, 24"x12"x3"
-A full rustproofing of the underside
-Intrax springs
-Rear sway bar

WAY down the road...

-MegaSquirt
-16" aero wheels, custom painted and polished
-Rear window louvers
-Suggestions?

philjohnhb
23-11-06, 09:38 AM
Love it! That stuff is nails

Palmer1980
24-11-06, 05:29 PM
I waxed the car today, and gapped my plugs. I also took a couple of more pictures of the mesh in the grille. It looks way better in natural light.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/Outsidesmeshes002.jpg

sleeper9kt
24-11-06, 07:02 PM
Yay! You finally made one of these threads!

I might have to do the same for my "project" c900, although it will be silly in comparison to all of the other vehicles in this section of the forum :lol:

Palmer1980
28-11-06, 01:51 PM
I just ordered this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TURBO-INTERCOOLER-XTRA-LARGE-FRONT-MOUNT-FMIC-24X12X3_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ013QQ itemZ230057675184QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVWto go along with the 2.5" stainless tubing set I picked up last weekend. The tubeset came with silicone couplers, and t-clamps. I also had to order some 3"-2.5" silicone reducers and few more clamps.


I also picked up a set of SPG wheels with tires that are in great shape! For 100 dollars!

I'm debating I should paint them darker like a gunmetal or something...



Now I have almost all the parts I need for my axle swap.

Saab-Daniel
29-11-06, 02:58 PM
Engine Post RFLBOV install:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/900BOV006.jpg


What is that colour you've painted your intercooler-pipe in, called? Looks very cool, would consider that for inlet-manifold and/or valve-cover...!
Looks gun-metal grey or something like that!
Thanks,
Daniel.

unkleG'sif
29-11-06, 03:41 PM
looks like good old eduardian grey to me ;)

G

Palmer1980
29-11-06, 03:45 PM
Thanks for the compliment!

It's actually a color changing paint from Duplicolor. When light hits it, it looks green and kinda dark orange depending on the angle. It's kinda sutble. My friend wound up with a few cases of this stuff (don't ask) so he gave me a "kit" to mess with.

It's alot less bright than the pro-quality stuff, and in person actually looks pretty good. It's going bye-bye soon though when the 2.5" stuff moves in.


http://www.duplicolor.com/products/mirage.html

philb
29-11-06, 04:09 PM
Great job on the door cards. Did you just re-cover them with the new fabric, or make new cards? Did you replace the old clips?

Palmer1980
29-11-06, 04:30 PM
I went to a fabric store, bought fabric, and spray glue, and went to town. Go light on the spray glue otherwise it comes through the fabric.

They feel pretty similar to the seats.

The actual cards were in fine shape, so I reused those.

Eduard
29-11-06, 05:41 PM
What a nice car.
I checked your movies and the BOV sounds fantastic.
Not too high-sounding like some others. I installed mine today and im hoping for a similar sound but ill have to adjust it a little first because for now its not making any at all :cool:

Palmer1980
29-11-06, 06:23 PM
Thanks!

What kind of BOV did you go with?

Eduard
29-11-06, 06:36 PM
dont want to be hijacking you thread but thats it ^^^

its a semi recirculating. dumps only at higher amounts of boost. this one seems to be adjustable on the top but mine looks slightly different. ill check it out tomorrow.

i like the look of yours better btw :(
;)

Palmer1980
05-12-06, 11:46 AM
Well, I'm still waiting for my intercooler.

I won it on monday of last week, and sent a money order the same day.

Not one bit of comunnication yet.

IronJoe
05-12-06, 12:23 PM
most of those high-volume sellers on eBay (esp those that work overseas) provide little or no communication. I was hopping mad for a month about not receiving my MBC in the mail, then it just showed up one day.

That's why I try to buy from PEOPLE not companies on eBay. PEOPLE are usually very good about communication. Keep waiting, palmer. It'll come.

Palmer1980
05-12-06, 12:35 PM
See, but I want it NOW.


I have the hoses. I have the clamps, and I have the time.



Grrrrr.


Oh well.

Palmer1980
05-12-06, 05:15 PM
Update:


I heard from the seller, and he says he has not seen my MO yet.

Uh-oh.

He's going to check his PO box tonight, and is going to give me a call again.

sleeper9kt
05-12-06, 10:50 PM
See....as much as paypal sucks, you wont have the issue of someone claiming to not recieve your MO. Did you send that MO certified mail, any way of tracking it?

Palmer1980
05-12-06, 11:02 PM
No comment.


We'll see what happens.

sleeper9kt
05-12-06, 11:27 PM
True....you can get f-ed by paypal as well. Paypal is far better for buyers than it is for sellers :-(

Hopefully the seller is honest, and the MO shows up!

Palmer1980
05-12-06, 11:35 PM
I'm not all that worried.



Yet.

Palmer1980
07-12-06, 01:55 AM
Ok, it's shipping on Friday.
24x12x3
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/4e_1.jpg
Supplies. Yes, that is a kitchen drawer.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/icz-1.jpg

Blacky Turbo S
08-12-06, 04:36 AM
This lives in the upper part of the lower cubby, and keeps me informed of what is going on with the car:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/LDEEZ.jpg



What kind of unit is this?? What kind of reading does it show? Where can you get it??

Palmer1980
09-12-06, 01:51 AM
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D800110&N=700+4294925228+400304+115&autoview=sku

Oil pressure, water temp, and voltmeter.

It also comes with the senders, and it's on sale right now. The lighthing is blue, not green like shown in the picture.

Palmer1980
09-12-06, 06:50 PM
Update:

The I/C shipped on friday!

Also I had an idea...I want to replace the tubing that goes from the AMM to the turbo. It's kinda silly to have big I/C tubes and the tiny factory supply pipe.

I bought this:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=WLK%2D42432&N=700+115&autoview=sku
and hope to use it for the supply pipe. I will probably have to get more couplers and whatnot but I'm not too worried. I would like to have the filter down by the opening for the factory I/C, with some type of baffle system to prevent water from getting in. Also, plans are in the works for a 3" DP, and moving the battery to the other side.

Palmer1980
09-12-06, 07:40 PM
On a side note, "The Blue Beast" or as my wife knows it as, "the old car" is not doing it for me anymore.



Any ideas on a name?

Breakin5speeds
09-12-06, 08:51 PM
Rusty...kinda like naming a big dude tiny....

Palmer1980
10-12-06, 03:16 AM
I like it.

LordThor
10-12-06, 06:05 PM
This lives in the upper part of the lower cubby, and keeps me informed of what is going on with the car:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/LDEEZ.jpg



man that thing is awesome. How much of a pain in the *** was it to hook up the oil and water temp lines so they read correctly?

and where did you run the senders for them also?

Palmer1980
10-12-06, 06:26 PM
The sender for the water temp is where the bleed for the coolant was, and I have not hooked up the oil one yet. I'm going to do this during an oil change, or while I'm putting in my FMIC. The oil sender is kinda big, so we'll see how it goes.

Palmer1980
10-12-06, 10:18 PM
While they are "just" SPG wheels, I'm still excited.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SPGwheelpinating003.jpg
They also have good tires (bfg traction t/a), with *lots* of tread left. Not too shabby for 100 bucks:)

I'm going to paint them, cause silver is boring.

Here is a "test" wheel with crappy paint. You get the idea...grey, with polished slots or whatever.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SPGwheelpinating002.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SPGwheelpinating001.jpg

LordThor
10-12-06, 10:21 PM
I really like the way that one wheel is shapeing up. You picked a sweet looking silver, that should end up lookin real nice. congrats on the good find of the rims.

Palmer1980
10-12-06, 10:55 PM
Thanks!

That is a practice wheel. I'm hoping the other ones will come out about 100 times better.

IronJoe
11-12-06, 05:34 PM
Very cool man... that's a unique idea. What are you using to strip the paint with? I'm going to redo my 17s this winter and I don't really want to sand em by hand ;)

Palmer1980
12-12-06, 12:55 AM
I was using aircraft stripper, but that sinks, and works poorly.


I am going to pick up a "coral wheel"...

http://iwr.ru.ac.za/%7Eiwdf/lathe/tailstock/tap-8abrasive.jpg

It will be quicker, and less stinky. I will have to tape off paint I want to keep somewhat smooth.

I am using this paint:
http://www.duplicolor.com/products/wheel.html

It has worked well in the past:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/RIMON3.jpg

Palmer1980
12-12-06, 01:49 AM
Well, I also finally got the 9k injectors in my car. The last time I did it, I was loaded on flu meds, and over tightned the fuel rail, making it sit at an angle.



Unlike the last time, there was no fuel shooting up into the air. It was nice.

Impressions: much smoother, and the AF gauge now sits mostly in the middle of tha gauge, and goes way firmly to "rich" at WOT.

Now, I'm going to mess with the fuel limiter thing. OR maybe take it out.

sleeper9kt
12-12-06, 01:34 PM
you should really go up to Kath oil and get some new bolts and measure to make spacers so the rail can't sit at the funny angle...

Oh, and buy a bunch of blingy looking stainless bolts for the valve cover, that would look very niiiiice!

Palmer1980
13-12-06, 12:23 AM
Pictures of fuel rail. They suck. Sorry.


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/fuelrail004.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/fuelrail003.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/fuelrail002.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/fuelrail002.jpg

It's off of a 91 9K turbo. It has a 3.0 bar FPR, and I am running the 9K injectors as well. The rail flows the almost the same amount of fuel, but it has the 3.0 FPR on it already.


By boost used to drop to 6psi at redline in 3rd gear, now it holds at 10. Yay!

Palmer1980
16-12-06, 02:33 AM
Goodbye fugly faded blue cloth!


Hello Black/grey leather!


Yes, it's true. A *full* leather setup is going in my car. Out of an SPG also!


Grey interior plastic, Grey floor carpet, and BLACK leather.


Oh, the hotness.


I can't wait. After new years.



Yes.

Palmer1980
19-12-06, 12:18 AM
One is done!


Masked:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SPGWheels.jpg

Primed:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SPGWheels-1.jpg


Finshed!
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SPGWheels-2.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SPGWheels-3.jpg

I'm on the fence.


I think it will look a bit better when the tire is shiny too...

saabchilten
19-12-06, 03:17 PM
love how your cat is behind one of the wheels. lovely touch. :)

IronJoe
19-12-06, 03:54 PM
that's a really unique look palmer... I'm really curious to see how those will look finished on your car.

Mind if I fire up adobe? ;)


EDIT:

just a quick one, but I think I like it. thx to James Markowski (marko62ss@yahoo.com) from saabphotos for the image. click to enlarge.

http://www.saabcentral.com/phpgallery/albums/album49/palmers_wheels.sized.jpg (http://www.saabcentral.com/phpgallery/albums/album49/palmers_wheels.jpg)

Palmer1980
19-12-06, 05:18 PM
Hmm. That does look good!

Thanks!

I may try to do the tiny lip around the edge of the wheel too.


http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g177/jvkrocak/Random/SPGWheels-2.jpg

He's my big fat helper. He tips the scales at about 16 lbs.

Palmer1980
29-12-06, 12:40 AM
heeheehee

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/ICINSATLLZ011.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/ICINSATLLZ007.jpg


I'm going to need a new pack of sawzall blades...

Palmer1980
04-01-07, 11:14 AM
Well. it's on. A sawzall was invloved. No more tow hooks!

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/MOUNTEDIC001.jpg

I have to shorten the radiator hose...
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/MOUNTEDIC002.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/MOUNTEDIC004.jpg

I have to cut these two tubes. You can also see the mount for the BOV on the tube sticking out of the throttle body.

IronJoe
04-01-07, 11:19 AM
Dude that looks fantastic! Have you driven it yet? How was the quality of the eBay piping kit?

Hope that coulper doesn't melt by the turbo... ;)

Palmer1980
04-01-07, 01:38 PM
Thanks!


The pipe kit is great! I'm not too sure where it came from...most kits on ebay are aluminuim, these are stainless tubes!

I think the coupler will be ok, it's a 3 ply rated to 500+ degrees. I figure the dizzy cap will melt well before that, so I should be ok. We'll see.

I have enough extra tubing to move that coupler over a bit if there is any issues. I also have not driven it yet.

I am going "custom" on my airdam to get it to fit over it. The bumper may need work too...

Funfun!

IronJoe
04-01-07, 01:57 PM
Good to hear... I have considered replacing my hodgepodge piping with one of those kits.

Where's your BOV going?

Palmer1980
04-01-07, 02:32 PM
There is a 90 degree tube that comes off the throttle body that has the bung on it. It will have an unobstructed shot straight down at the ground. It will sound hellish.:cheesy:

I would throw up a picture, but the video cards on the work computer are slower than the ice age.


I will post a pic later tonight from home.

rob beard
04-01-07, 03:25 PM
that's a really unique look palmer... I'm really curious to see how those will look finished on your car.

Mind if I fire up adobe? ;)


EDIT:

just a quick one, but I think I like it. thx to James Markowski (marko62ss@yahoo.com) from saabphotos for the image. click to enlarge.

http://www.saabcentral.com/phpgallery/albums/album49/palmers_wheels.sized.jpg (http://www.saabcentral.com/phpgallery/albums/album49/palmers_wheels.jpg)

I never normally critisize other peoples cars, but on this occasion I am afraid I will have to, you have done a spledid job on the wheels and you have worked your tail off but, that just does not look right to me, maybe, just maybe it may have looked better if you had painted the now grey bits silver and the cut outs a lightish grey mettallic, then 3 or 4 coats of laquer, at the moment it just does not gel to me, thats just my opinion though.:confused:

Cheers

Rob

Palmer1980
04-01-07, 03:31 PM
To each his own!



I'm still on the fence myself...

I'm going to get them on the car, and then see. I may just go charcoal, Instead of the polshed bits.
It's a work in progress!

IronJoe
04-01-07, 03:52 PM
even if it turns out bad and he pitches the idea altogether, kudos for trying something new.

Who knows, maybe my photoshop of the idea is lacking ;)

rob beard
04-01-07, 04:33 PM
No, No harm in playing around, I do the same, I once had a red 2 door 99 turbo I sprayed the Incas the Brightest Yellow you have ever seen, am going back a few years now, after a couple of months I sprayed them Cinnaber Red and the morrors and grill, wipers and it looked the dogs danglys.


Rob

Palmer1980
05-01-07, 01:31 AM
"dogs danglys"



I love it!



That 99 must have been quite a sight!

Palmer1980
05-01-07, 06:51 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/MOUNTEDIC001-1.jpg


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/MOUNTEDIC002-1.jpg


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/MOUNTEDIC004-1.jpg

The "issue"
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/MOUNTEDIC003-1.jpg

It's so big, the marker light by the grille hits the intercooler!


Dremel time!

IronJoe
05-01-07, 06:54 PM
sweet lord that's awesome. you HAVE to keep the bumper off.

wow.

Palmer1980
05-01-07, 07:14 PM
Oh, but the bumper and newly meshed grille will look so good!

I also have the "turbo" logo on the front, instead of a plate now...



http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/Outsidesmeshes002.jpg

IronJoe
05-01-07, 09:06 PM
I think an exposed IC looks way meaner :cool:

go out and drive that thing! And come back with results!

Saab-Daniel
06-01-07, 08:02 AM
I drove mine like this: http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3488/endeligfittedil1.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=endeligfittedil1.jpg)
For a few hours, SOOO much fun, hehe...
Then drove without the grill for a week, just for kicks, again, SOOO much fun :)
Daniel.

Palmer1980
06-01-07, 05:01 PM
Post-first-drive report!


It's alive!

I went out for a couple of drives, and the first one was shorter than the other due to a hose that blew off. I coasted into a parking lot, and pushed the hose back on, and limped back home. I got my fair share of looks from people, as I had no hood, bumper, grille, or left headlight. The BOV was freaking LOUD too. It's pointed straight down at the ground now and makes quite the racket.

After I fixed up the hose, a friend stopped by, and we went for a ride.

I really do not think there is any more turbo lag than before, and it seems to pull a little harder. Overall, I think it's not an increase in power, it just feels more consistent overall. The stock one gave up any kind of cooling after about 20 seconds worth of hard pulls. I also kept an eye on my digital engine temprature gauge, and everything was normal, even after a few pulls.

I ran it up to the redline in 3rd gear, and it pulled great. About 15 seconds later, I did it again and it felt the same. The car runs fine, and no hoses blew off this time, so that's good.

I still have to figure out how to get the bumper all of the way on, along with the marker lights. I did have to space the bumper mounts about 1/2" out from the bumper itself, and that changed the geometery of the mounting points of the bumper.

I'll probably just wind up hitting them with something. The screwdriver I have shoved into the mount from the top will have to suffice for now.

I also seem to have lost about 2 PSI peak, (down to 13/14 peak) but I kind of expected that. I'm going to the garage to tinker with the APC in a little bit.

Palmer1980
12-01-07, 12:19 AM
Well, I put some ford blue top injectors in.



Much better. Not so rich, and smoother. More updates to follow!

TheRedBaron
12-01-07, 12:27 PM
Palmer - did you ever figure out that high idle after boost thing that you posted about on saablink (I'm named Jack Straw over there we had the same problem...)? Was it the BPV?

Palmer1980
12-01-07, 01:36 PM
I remember!


I put another few washers in the BOV, and had no change. It still does it. The throttle plate is nice and clean too.


It's more annoying than anything. More monkeying when I have time.


I could be any number of annoying things. It's odd that it does it only after hard boosting though.

SteveMcqueen
12-01-07, 01:38 PM
I would just like to say I think those wheels look awsome, and are a great alternative to spending what seems like limitless money on deep dish aeros.

Id take the mesh out of the grill however, mesh is for EVO's and STI's, not 15+ year old classics.

JMO anyways.

Palmer1980
13-01-07, 02:49 AM
Thanks for the compliment on the wheels. I do think it's a unique look, and I am proud of the work I have done on them. I keep one right by the garage door, so I can see it every time I leave the house.


I'm still on the fence.


That said, I have had a set of 16" aero wheels (with tires) present themselves to me for a very reasonable price. I will be re-finishing them as well.



The mesh stays. :)

I have had numerous people (incuding strangers) compliment me on the front of my car. They all say "it looks factory" "but different"

It's really one of those things that look better in real life. All the pictures seem to make it look about 3 shades brighter than it really is.

Aussiebob
13-01-07, 05:32 PM
Where did you get the DIN sized digital display - I have not seen anything like. Great looking ride

TheRedBaron
13-01-07, 06:34 PM
Where did you get the DIN sized digital display - I have not seen anything like. Great looking ride

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D800110&N=700+115&autoview=sku

Definitely on my wishlist.

shaverjeff
14-01-07, 12:35 PM
any pics with the display installed/activiated? The site says the display is green...did you specify blue or did it just show up that way?

Nice project by the way!

Palmer1980
14-01-07, 03:13 PM
Yes, but they are lousy. I'll get some others, and post them up in a few days.

I did not specify the color. I was surprised when I plugged it in. I don't mind, blue is nice too. :)

Palmer1980
25-01-07, 05:12 PM
I bypassed my overboost switch today. I had been putting it off because I hate taking my center console apart, but then iron joe pointed out that I could pull the wires, and plug them together. They are seprate from the jetronic harness, and are white with a brown stripe.

Now I go to 16 PSI!


I'm also researching an external wastegate on my car using this:
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-FLS-017&Category_Code=FLS

Saabeh
25-01-07, 05:42 PM
Put your springs in RIGHT NOW!

IronJoe
25-01-07, 05:57 PM
Put your springs in RIGHT NOW!

yup, peer pressure time.

CMON PALMER EVERYBODYS DOIN IT!!!

Palmer1980
25-01-07, 06:03 PM
Back off, jackals!



I WANT THEM IN TOOO!!!!!!!!!11



My new 9000 rotors show up tomrrow, and then I will have everything I need to put it all together.



I don't wanto to take stuff apart over, and over again.

sleeper9kt
25-01-07, 08:58 PM
DAH!!!! Palmer, even though I've your car in person more times than I can count...the photo with the air dam on and the bumper off makes me nearly $hit myself. That IC is huge...may too big :lol:

I'm glad you finally got the guts to screw around with the over-boost switch...about dang time! Now we need to figure out how to do the ignition mod and get that thing to 20 psi, and then I need to 'compare acceleration factors' with you ;)

Palmer1980
26-01-07, 01:57 AM
It's big.



Too big?



Maybe.



Also, I did a pull in 4th on the highway tonight...it was about 10 degrees out.


It was insane.

Palmer1980
26-01-07, 06:12 PM
I made one today out of 2" stainless steel, and a couple of couplers.

Here are crappy pictures:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/INTAKE003.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/INTAKE001.jpg


I drilled out the holes for the fittings, and put it on. No real difference, it just sounds a bit louder. I'm going to get a shorter, but wider air filter in a while and set something up so the filter is more down by the old opening for the I/C. I also used the elbow to the turbo.

And yes, a reducer is on the way for the throttle body. The old one fits the new pipes poorly.

IronJoe
26-01-07, 06:19 PM
looks good man. I'm going to do the same with some 2.5" piping if I have any leftover from redoing my IC pipes. is that bend a 45?

Palmer1980
26-01-07, 06:25 PM
What bend do you mean?

If you mean the tubing itself, it's this:

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=WLK%2D42432&N=700+400358+115&autoview=sku


It's the cheapest stainless 2.5" tubing on the site. I checked.

IronJoe
02-02-07, 01:47 PM
clear your PMs ho.

Palmer1980
02-02-07, 03:44 PM
Cleared!


Anyway, I just scored a JSP LH 2.2 fuel chip for 50 bucks!

This will go well with my 1993 9000 aero injectors. So many injectors, so little time...


BoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST!

ShadowWorks
04-02-07, 01:04 PM
That is a nice looking intake, I used a 63mm ID or 2.5 inch pipe and it made a decent difference higher up the rev range esp on boost.

The stoke one is only 48mm ID I think, just getting the pipe around the clutch cover is a pain, thank God for couplers.

The size of the filter does not help, I am convinced for this, having the air filter lower down the engine bay is best, so I am going to change that on my intake which is very short and higher up, its a pain.

Matthew
04-02-07, 01:11 PM
The layout of the engine bay does make for difficult intake routing. Start on the left at the filter, then across to the turbo, across again to the IC (do a U-turn in there!) and halfway back for the throttle body :o

Gary Moore's rotated his 900's turbo 180 degrees and gone MAP sensored with the Autronic ECU. The turbo inlet's now on the exhaust-side of the bay, no AMM, then air through the IC and up for the TB. Much nicer IMHO, but you'd need a proper cold-air intake with the filter on that side of the bay (I don't remember if Gary has that).

I detest the stock piping, and before Sweden in June I'll be investing in some good custom mandrel-bent intake piping.

Saab-Daniel
05-02-07, 05:49 AM
before Sweden in June I'll be investing in some good custom mandrel-bent intake piping.

Well, I'll be looking forward to seeing you there, Matthew, I'm guessing we are talking about the saab-festival?
I'm looking forward to it SO much, it was a blast last time (2 years back).

Sorry for thread-jacking, just had to comment on it ;)
Daniel.

Matthew
05-02-07, 06:00 AM
Yes :D Twenty of us are going for two weeks :D It'll be a blast, and I really look forward to meeting lots of folk from this forum.

We should have a stab at organising a SaabCentral meet at the Festival :cool:

Saab-Daniel
05-02-07, 07:58 AM
Definetly, I'll show up! I'm staying at the campsite called Hjulkvarnlund inside trollhättan, which is where most of the saab'ers will be staying. Around 20 from Denmark ar coming too, I'll be staying from thuesday/wednesday to sunday! :)
Daniel.

Palmer1980
10-02-07, 02:22 PM
I'm glad you two "found eachother" in my thread! :)



Anyway, I decided to change my transmission fluid. These are pictures of the drain plug. You can imagine my delight.



See all the shiny bits?
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/C900Tranny.jpg
After I cleaned the plug:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/C900Tranny-1.jpg


I'm going to let it drain for a couple of hours, then put in Amsoil 75w90 Syth oil for manual transmissions.

Wife's reaction to my *****ing was priceless..."so, when are we going to have to buy a new one?"

My reply was "sooner rather than later"


Blech.

IronJoe
12-02-07, 11:44 AM
Nice christmas-tree drain plug... I remember my first. Start saving, buddy! More fun than you'll ever have.

You know, for every dollar in c900 performance mods, you have to put away $2 for your next trans :p

Squaab99t
12-02-07, 12:01 PM
Nice christmas-tree drain plug... I remember my first. Start saving, buddy! More fun than you'll ever have.

You know, for every dollar in c900 performance mods, you have to put away $2 for your next trans :p

I took mine out the other day when we did the LDS. Maybe 2-3 specks on the magnet. Of course I already spent my $2. I'm currently installing a oil filter with the trans cooler.

Palmer1980
12-02-07, 02:45 PM
Oh, you can imagine my joy.

IronJoe
12-02-07, 03:48 PM
Oh, you can imagine my joy.

That's better than cruising down the road and having the car lock up on you like hitting a brick wall. This way you have a bit of warning :roll:

After a while you'll be starting your sentences, "Well, for my next trans,...."

Saabeh
12-02-07, 04:45 PM
I am already starting that sentance unfortunately. I drove my car this weekend because I had the luxury of visiting my home. When the trans was cold, it was rough into 2nd and would be very rough into third at high revs. I do not jam the gears either, I purposefully take a while in between gears to not make them hurt.

lol @ post# 666

Palmer1980
15-02-07, 11:42 AM
I had an idea....


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/Outsidesmeshes002.jpg


And:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/4742/Saab/99saab4.jpg

To this:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/shelly8331/Image4.jpg


I think it looks great, and I want to do it.

The rough size of the opening is the same, I know, beacuse I held an 86 light surround up to a 99 front end in a junkyard...it's pretty close..

Any input?

IronJoe
15-02-07, 12:55 PM
do it, that looks great. Si had dual rounds from a golf I believe, but I think he ditched the idea due to lack of a good bezel.

Dual rounds look great.

ShadowWorks
15-02-07, 02:56 PM
There is something about twin lamps, its the eyes of a car and they look mean and purposeful.

I say go for it too, looks great and your giving me ideas;)

Palmer1980
16-02-07, 07:04 PM
Just an updtae for the ol' project thread, I scored some 99 quad light buckets, and a shot bezel to use as a template. I have also talked with a co-worker who can precisley cut nice round holes in metal...


The cost?

Just a drive!

Palmer1980
21-02-07, 11:49 PM
Ok, more progress. In true palmer fasion, I did alot of this at work. It's not my fault they have a bench grinder!

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/99HEADLIGHTS3002.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/99HEADLIGHTS3001.jpg

You can see I cut the inner side down, and am filling in the ouside corners. If you see the spots I marked with "f", those are going to be filled up to match the profile of the grille. It's kind of an abprupt change, and this will help some.




Also,

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/99HEADLIGHTS3003.jpg

Palmer1980
16-03-07, 05:11 PM
I was sick of the cheap looking plastic split loom that I had over the hose and wires going to my A/F gauge, and boost gauge.

I found some braided stainless lines in 16" sections in an un-likley place a few weeks ago...

Under my bathroom sink! I had a pair of supply lines left over from when I put a new sink in my bathroom a while ago. http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SShoses003.jpg


The results:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SShoses002.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SShoses001.jpg
I'm not quite done with the mounting of the gauges on the dash yet. I have to make something purty, and also does not make any holes in the dash. They are stuck on there with auto trim tape for the time being.

I'm thinking of painting a piece of plastic satin black, drilling holes for the gauge mounts, mounting them to the plate and then sticking the plastic plate to the dash with trim tape...

Oh, and these lines cost a whopping 2.50 each at most home supply stores.

Palmer1980
23-03-07, 05:22 PM
Well, A bit of a setback...


I blew up the transmission!


There should be a club for this type of thing, beyond saab ownership.
:cheesy:

Saabeh
23-03-07, 07:40 PM
No way! What happened? 21psi hurt the trans a bit?

Palmer1980
23-03-07, 08:44 PM
No way! What happened? 21psi hurt the trans a bit?



Yes.


You could say that.


PRANMGCRUNCHEZ.


That's the noise it made.

Saabeh
23-03-07, 08:56 PM
So what are you going to to without a car!!! Now I am worried about mine... What will happen to mine? Oh boy.. 21psi uh oh

Palmer1980
23-03-07, 09:01 PM
Well, I live 3 miles from work, so I will ride my bike.

Until I pick up a re-man post 89 box, and put it in my car. Also, trans cooler.





And that will be next week.

:cheesy:

Palmer1980
29-03-07, 01:08 AM
Wow, that sucked. Everything that could break, or get stuck did!



But, the motor is out...
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P3280087.jpg

Dirty engine bay!
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P3280088.jpg

This is how many beers it takes 2 guys to pull a motor. There was 3 more in the front of the car...
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P3280089.jpg

I also felt the need to do a little surgery on myself too!

I was pushing on one of the bolts that hold the steering knuckle in, and the socket slipped. The brake dust sheild did a nice number on the inside of the wrist. There was a nice chunk of skin on the shield too.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P3280092.jpg

Garage:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P3280093.jpg

ShadowWorks
03-04-07, 03:31 AM
P. Man

Is that an Einhell drill on your parcel shelf?

Hows the beasty getting on now;)

Palmer1980
09-04-07, 02:43 PM
It's a DeWalt drill.



It's yellow, and fabulous.


The car is no longer in 2 big bits.


More pics soon....

Palmer1980
13-04-07, 02:43 PM
New seats!



http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/AEroSeats.jpg

Oh, and they were 75 bucks.


:)

TheRedBaron
13-04-07, 02:50 PM
Good deal. Those look cumfy!

IronJoe
13-04-07, 03:44 PM
very nice palmer... I'll wait for you to install yours first :cheesy:

only the fronts? Or do you have the rears too?

Palmer1980
13-04-07, 05:47 PM
It will be easy!


Lexol, red to power, yellow to ignition, black to ground!


Also, fab mounts!

Saabeh
13-04-07, 06:55 PM
I got some black Aeros too!

Palmer1980
13-04-07, 08:17 PM
Wow, lexol works good.


tracked down some Lexol today and put it on one of me new seats.


Damn.

Shiny.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/AEroSeatscelanz001.jpg

Before and after:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/AEroSeatscelanz002.jpg


I got out an old toothbrush, and the shop vac, and went after the junk in the seams. Then I wiped the dust off with a damp rag.

The cleaner works ok, I found I had to use more than called for the get the "foam" they talk about in the instructions.

It was real nasty on the headrest part, the towel came back brown. The PO must have used lotsa hairspray.

I did one coat of the treatment, and let it soak in, then another coat that I "buffed" off. The leather feels kinda sticky. It should go away.

But damn, this stuff works good.


Oh, and Joe, I only have the fronts. So far.


:)

IronJoe
13-04-07, 10:51 PM
well there's no way rears are fitting in the back of the vert. evAr. I'm going to have to dye the stock rears black. Ugh, I've had enough of dye! It's messy and oso difficult to work with.

Breakin5speeds
14-04-07, 12:02 AM
I did one coat of the treatment, and let it soak in, then another coat that I "buffed" off. The leather feels kinda sticky. It should go away.



I hope you're right,:o I've tried lexol a couple of times, under an 'expert's' recommendation, and both times I could not get the stickyness to go away for a a LONG time:(,

DosEvil
14-04-07, 02:39 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but wont the sticky film attract more dirt and oil causing the finish on the leather to break down over time?

Palmer1980
14-04-07, 11:08 AM
Well, that's true.


I just went out to the garage and felt it. It's a little sticky, but nowhere near as bad as it was yesterday.

It's nice and sunny out today, and I plan to treat the other one, then leave them out in the sun so they can get nice and warm. Maybe this will help it soak in.

Also, I used a nice new terrycloth towel to "buff" them off. I think that helped too..

eddiethegreat
14-04-07, 11:31 AM
New seats!

Oh, and they were 75 bucks.


:)

Uh-la-la! They must be very nice on your blue 900.
Also that body-glove effect would make you more confortable on fassst corners :cool: not flying out of the window :lol:

Palmer1980
14-04-07, 05:39 PM
I'm kinda nervous about how much taller the 9000 seats are than the 900 seats. I'm not the shortest guy out there....


Anyway, Saturday mail AND FedEx!
Stainless brake lines, and silicone engine hoses!
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/rEDSIL001.jpg




http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/rEDSIL002.jpg
I'm predicting a 10hp gain from the red lines. :roll: Either way, the original stuff was crusty. One less boost leak to worry about...

Palmer1980
10-05-07, 12:36 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/blackfornts.jpg


Mostly cosmetic work...


Rear axle in the next 2 weeks...


then my wheels will match!

tikipants
10-05-07, 03:00 PM
Hey Palmy. Good stuff.

-Deek

Palmer1980
10-05-07, 11:56 PM
Hey Deek!


Ok, I had a bit of free time tonight and wanted to get back to this "little" project...

I was geting a bit discouraged becasue of fit issues. I realized the issue was with the 99 buckets. They are WAY to deep to fit on my car because of my FMIC that is the size of a doghouse.

I figured bypassing the buckets totally, and using just the "carriers" of the round lights frees up a bit of space, and I was right.

The next problem was that the inner light (high beam) would have to sit forward from the outer light (low beam) by 3/4" of an inch, again due to the huge FMIC.

I used a 2.5" long bolt, and a few nuts to make an adjustable spacer:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/99swap001-1.jpg

With that in place, I found that it fits into the space between the grillE and corner light very well, and has the right "look". The inner light is flush with the center part of the grillE, and the outer is flush with the corner light.

The biggest issue I was having was actually mounting it securely. I also want to be able to quickly switch back to stock if I feel like it.

Then I had a eureka moment.

Thanks to MS paint I can share it with you:

Back view:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/99swap003.jpg
The yellow will be flat metal of some kind, probably about 3mm thick or so.

I plan to enlarge the exsisting holes on the back of the carriers and run some 5mm hardware through them to bolt to the plate.
Side view:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/99swap001.jpg


Then I will drill 2 holes here:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/99swap004.jpg
and put some bolts through from the IC side and use nuts to hold them in place, so they are like threaded studs. Ez-on, EZ off.


yay!

Honkey
11-05-07, 01:11 AM
It would be hella sweet if you could write up an install guide with some pics on how you install your 9000Aero Seats :)

How are you planning to let people get into the back?

Palmer1980
11-05-07, 01:32 AM
I plan to let them in the passenger side...

The seats both have a memory for them, so I will make "1" the entry setting or something..


I will hook power to the seat out of the car, and move the *rails* about 2/3 the way forward then bolt it in. It will be able to move forward a good deal further than the driver seat that I plan to just center on the rails...


If that makes sense.

Aussiebob
11-05-07, 03:45 AM
I'm kinda nervous about how much taller the 9000 seats are than the 900 seats. I'm not the shortest guy out there....


Anyway, Saturday mail AND FedEx!
Stainless brake lines, and silicone engine hoses!
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/rEDSIL001.jpg




http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/rEDSIL002.jpg
I'm predicting a 10hp gain from the red lines. :roll: Either way, the original stuff was crusty. One less boost leak to worry about... Where did you get teh brake hoses and silicone tube

Palmer1980
11-05-07, 11:22 AM
Hose: Http://www.boostcontroller.com

Lines: Http://www.paragonperformance.com

IronJoe
11-05-07, 11:32 AM
can i play with your car some more in photoshop?


sorry, I just love your car.

Palmer1980
11-05-07, 11:41 AM
Yes.


Side view for SPG/whaletail/big lovers:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/ITlives002.jpg

Better fron view for 99 lights...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/99swap006.jpg
Oh, hell...do whatever you want.


Also I came out of a store last night, and the back half of the car was blocked by a van. It looks REAL low.

IronJoe
11-05-07, 12:13 PM
wow.


you're gonna be so mad at how good this looks.
http://www.saabcentral.com/phpgallery/albums/album49/ITlives002.jpg



EDIT:
this isn't my favorite, but just in case you're feeling blue... (http://www.saabcentral.com/phpgallery/albums/album49/feeling_blue.jpg)

Palmer1980
11-05-07, 01:22 PM
Yep, I'm pissed.


:o



Wow.


The blue is ok too. IF I do this, the SPG panels will match the wheels, or be satin black.


Hmm.

IronJoe
11-05-07, 01:39 PM
yea grey is the best.

there's a couple flat-front kits on the 'bay, you know... hint hint hint :cheesy:

Palmer1980
11-05-07, 01:43 PM
I have another scource....



heheheeh

TheRedBaron
11-05-07, 02:14 PM
You should put lambo doors on your sabb!!














...or not :o

ShadowWorks
11-05-07, 09:13 PM
I love lambo doors, its the last thing you would expect;) shame the hinges cost like $400 and there cheap.

Palmer1980
15-05-07, 01:57 AM
Lambo doors?



Wow.


Anyway, my friend has a 2002 9-3 SE auto. He thinks it's fast.



It is, but my 900 is t3h fastar!


Here is an e-mail I sent:

So. I have used my math skills to figure a few things out.


I had my 900 on a dyno. It put 165 hp, and 180Lb Ft. to the wheels. Keep in mind that was to the pavement.


To the wheels. 165hp/180lb.ft



Your car has 205 hp, and around 220 tq. Keep in mind that is at the CRANK. Not to the wheels.


Figuring a 12% drivetrain loss (I'm being generous here..it's usually 15%+, your car makes 180 hp at the wheels, and around 193 wtq.


Thats before the auto trans sucks another 8 percent. (i'm being quite generous to your car with these figures too)


After the slush box you have (at 8% loss) 165hp/177lb/ft.


I did not mention that the dyno I did last summer was before:

Intake
Exhaust
Injectors
Fuel Chip
Front mount Intercooler
Turbo Chip----( I was spiking at 15 psi, and dropping to 8 by the redline....now I hold 18 psi all the way to the redline)


Also, your car tips the scales at 3020 pounds according to several websites....


http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2001-saab-9-3-5.htm

My car weighs about 2800 pounds.


If I was to guess, I would venture to think (on the safe side) that the work I have done to my car would add about 30hp/30lb ft to the wheels. I think it may be more....but..


So to summarize:


Your bone stock 2002 SE 165hp/177lb ft and wighs 3000 pounds.

My modded 1986 900 (on the safe side) 195hp/210lb ft, and weighs 2800 pounds.



Something does not add up. Once my clutch is fixed, you will see.


The best part is the most I have ever spent on a performance mod was $125 for the intercooler. The rest was done at radio shack, or for cheap on the internets.






Anyway, food for thought.


_andy




Yep.

Palmer1980
19-05-07, 05:48 PM
It was a busy, hot day.


I now have a "new" rear axle on the car, stainless lines, new rear calipers, rotors, and pads. And now my wheels match. Finally. It's only been a month...

What's missing?
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/REarAxleswap001.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/REarAxleswap002.jpg

Shiny new stuff...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/REarAxleswap003.jpg


Asstastic shot of stainless lines. The rear axle has hard lines to the calipers.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/REarAxleswap004.jpg

Palmer1980
19-05-07, 05:49 PM
Finished!

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/REarAxleswap007.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/REarAxleswap006.jpg

Now I just have to paint and polish the rest of the wheels...

Saabeh
19-05-07, 06:10 PM
Haha, nice tires. Those front tires are massive. Good work, looks nice.

ShadowWorks
19-05-07, 06:41 PM
Finished!

Don't you understand, you will never be finished, this is the beginning:lol:

The car looks fantastic, now just go on a road trip and film it;)

Palmer1980
19-05-07, 08:02 PM
Don't worry....there is a set of 205/45/16 tires in my near future.

The one on the drivers side that looks huge, is. It's a 205/55/16, and it looks real crappy.

I'm going out for a drive later...

saabismi
20-05-07, 08:03 AM
i remember u posting in the www.saabnet.ee forums international forum...nice car btw...i like the color

CHR15
20-05-07, 10:20 AM
that's the first time ive ever read a full 8 pages of a thread, brilliant project!

keep us posted!:D

Palmer1980
22-05-07, 01:23 AM
Bah, my radiator is shot.



How boring.


140 dollars on a radiator.


woooooooo

Palmer1980
30-05-07, 03:43 PM
Hey, guess what?




My 5th gear shift fork was bad on my re-built transmission.



Out comes the motor.

Again.:evil:

IronJoe
30-05-07, 03:56 PM
wait, what?


It was bad from the rebuild, or it went bad? Either way, sorry man. Similar thing happenend to me, finished installing a trans and the internal shifter-detent-thing broke. In a span of like 2 weeks. I'm with ya in spirit man.

Palmer1980
30-05-07, 06:07 PM
It never went into 5th gear.


Bad shifter fork.


I'm getting more pissed as the day goes on.


I'm calling the place now to see if they will take care of me.

Palmer1980
01-06-07, 02:01 AM
Ok, update time:


About 4 months ago,I had a transmission go out. I bought a re-man, and put it in.

It was bad.

I'm now having another warranty box put in to the tune of 750 bucks. The indy shop I bought the box from is cutting a me a 40% off labor deal, so I think that is quite fair, given that I put the box in myself...


I would have put it in myself (again) but I'm too busy and need a car.

I have a yard that looks like the Congo, and house that needs paint.


I also do not want to hate my car, so I think that someone else doing the work will make me feel better about things.

I think as saab owners, we have all been there.


The wallet lost this time, but my sanity maintains.




And this time, if the box goes bad, it's under 100% warranty for a while.

:cheesy:

Palmer1980
01-06-07, 07:30 PM
For the record, this is what you do not want to see when you open a "new" transmission:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/DIE7502.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/DIE750.jpg


Gee, can you spot the bits that failed?

The snap ring went, and 5th followed. Whoops!

Palmer1980
04-06-07, 10:03 PM
This one is worth eleventybillion WHP.

I got a grille and some other bits and decided to co "custom". This is my second try at a grille for the 900, and will go with the black front end quite well. It's kinda the opposite of my first one with all the mesh.

I pulled out the center "saab" emblem, and filled in the holes with bondo glaze. It's the red stuff that you put over the actual bondo, but I found that for smaller things like this, it works quite well. I did one thick layer, and it took a few days to dry, even under a hot lightbulb. I would suggest using 2 or 3 thin coats instead. I wound up with this:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/GRillelz001.jpg


I then cut the horizontal slats out of the back secion of the grillE.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/GRillelz002.jpg


I have one final thin coat drying now, and then it will get some primer, and a coat of satin black paint. It should look neato. I may try and join the 2 halves of the grille with more bondo to smooth it out. We'll see how that goes.

Palmer1980
09-06-07, 02:22 PM
Finally!

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/11aa.jpg

All 5 gears, and a fresh transmission!

New To The Game
17-06-07, 03:41 PM
Anyway, my friend has a 2002 9-3 SE auto. He thinks it's fast.



It is, but my 900 is t3h fastar!


Here is an e-mail I sent:

Quote:
So. I have used my math skills to figure a few things out.


I had my 900 on a dyno. It put 165 hp, and 180Lb Ft. to the wheels. Keep in mind that was to the pavement.


To the wheels. 165hp/180lb.ft



Your car has 205 hp, and around 220 tq. Keep in mind that is at the CRANK. Not to the wheels.


Figuring a 12% drivetrain loss (I'm being generous here..it's usually 15%+, your car makes 180 hp at the wheels, and around 193 wtq.


Thats before the auto trans sucks another 8 percent. (i'm being quite generous to your car with these figures too)


After the slush box you have (at 8% loss) 165hp/177lb/ft.


I did not mention that the dyno I did last summer was before:

Intake
Exhaust
Injectors
Fuel Chip
Front mount Intercooler
Turbo Chip----( I was spiking at 15 psi, and dropping to 8 by the redline....now I hold 18 psi all the way to the redline)


Also, your car tips the scales at 3020 pounds according to several websites....


http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwo...-saab-9-3-5.htm (http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2001-saab-9-3-5.htm)

My car weighs about 2800 pounds.


If I was to guess, I would venture to think (on the safe side) that the work I have done to my car would add about 30hp/30lb ft to the wheels. I think it may be more....but..


So to summarize:


Your bone stock 2002 SE 165hp/177lb ft and wighs 3000 pounds.

My modded 1986 900 (on the safe side) 195hp/210lb ft, and weighs 2800 pounds.



Something does not add up. Once my clutch is fixed, you will see.


The best part is the most I have ever spent on a performance mod was $125 for the intercooler. The rest was done at radio shack, or for cheap on the internets.






Anyway, food for thought.


_andy





Yep.

You're clutch fixed yet you ninny? First off, I have never claimed my car to be a super fast race-car, I only like to get a rise out of you when you say that your car can beat any car on the freeway. 0-120, we'll see if you can make it out of 2nd gear without your tranny falling apart a fourth time or blowing a hose off....if it does and you don't spend too much time babying it into 3rd you might be able to catch up.....otheriwse you'll be viewing the rear of my bone-stock 9-3.

Palmer1980
17-06-07, 03:58 PM
hahah!

I was wondering if you were going to see that!

My clutch is fine, thanks for asking!

Well, it's slipping because of the 290+ lb.ft. of torque, but that's another story.


How's your idle on your 2002??


:P

Oh, and just for the record:

225WHP/296WTQ

New To The Game
17-06-07, 04:01 PM
My idle sucks. I'm going to do plugs and clean the TB tonight once it cools down a bit.

Palmer1980
17-06-07, 05:07 PM
Remember this?


:cheesy:


I will believe the 30 HP gain when I see the Dyno reports……if you don’t wreck your new transmission in the process.

Saabeh
18-06-07, 12:13 AM
When did you re-dyno your car?

Palmer1980
18-06-07, 11:16 AM
Saturday.


http://www.saablink.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18992



http://www.saablink.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18832


Good times!

Palmer1980
19-06-07, 12:07 PM
Ok, it's done. Sort of.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/GrillEmodz003.jpg

It could use another coat of bondo, but whatever.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/GrillEmodz004.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/GrillEmodz002.jpg


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/GrillEmodz001.jpg
I shined up the top of my IC as well. Yes, I'm a tool.

I think it looks pretty good. I had to put the bumper back on. I was pushing my luck running around without.

Palmer1980
19-06-07, 01:30 PM
Also,

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/GrillEmodz1.jpg


I think it works on several levels.

sleeper9kt
20-06-07, 07:59 AM
Remember this?


:cheesy:
I will believe the 30 HP gain when I see the Dyno reports……if you don’t wreck your new transmission in the process.


But, the numbers you are touting have a correction factor built in. And it might be a good idea to dyno at RS to get a good comparison for before/after.

Also, "TQ" or "WTQ" is not a measure of torque...lb/ft and nm

For example, 296 nm = 198 lb/ft and 296 lb/ft = 401 nm. Just food for though. Also, if you choose to keep it vague you could start posting that your cars has "401 wtq"

Palmer1980
20-06-07, 09:08 AM
But, the numbers you are touting have a correction factor built in. And it might be a good idea to dyno at RS to get a good comparison for before/after.

Also, "TQ" or "WTQ" is not a measure of torque...lb/ft and nm

For example, 296 nm = 198 lb/ft and 296 lb/ft = 401 nm. Just food for though. Also, if you choose to keep it vague you could start posting that your cars has "401 wtq"


Um, ok.


I did post these numbers in both of the other threads..


Hp:
204 @ 4864
Corrected:
223 hp

Tq:
269.6 @ 3500
Corrected:
294.6

It's not like I'm trying to yank anyones chain or anything.

Corrected, or un-corrected, I still made a hell of alot more than a 30hp gain.

sleeper9kt
21-06-07, 07:32 AM
It's not like I'm trying to yank anyones chain or anything.

Corrected, or un-corrected, I still made a hell of alot more than a 30hp gain.

I know...also, I am blind, I didn't see the uncorrected, amybe I should put either my contacts or glasses on in the morning :-(

And yes, your did make plenty more than 30hp since the last dyno. I am still curious to see what it puts out @ RS, but that will probably be a while before it makes any sense to go dyno'ing again.

DanF.
22-06-07, 08:20 AM
Um, ok.


I did post these numbers in both of the other threads..


Hp:
204 @ 4864
Corrected:
223 hp

Tq:
269.6 @ 3500
Corrected:
294.6

It's not like I'm trying to yank anyones chain or anything.

Corrected, or un-corrected, I still made a hell of alot more than a 30hp gain.


Palmer is NO JOKE !!




sorry, I just wanted to say it before Joe

Palmer1980
01-07-07, 11:11 AM
Downpipe!

Yay!

First, the DP:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P6300184.jpg



http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P6300185.jpg


Impressions...

Much faster spool, and the car feels MUCH stronger. The "raprapraprap" that the exhaust makes when the wastegate opens is now much quieter. The exhaust note is a bit smoother, and seems to have a bit more of an echo. It's good fun. How do you like the plug for the other 02 sensor bung?

Palmer1980
01-07-07, 11:12 AM
We also moved the battery. That was such a stupid-assed spot for the battery. it blows my mind. Even with the shield in place the battery was HOT for 30 minutes after I took it out of the car.


We were able to use the factory wires. The negative lead grounds to the motor mount, and the motor itself. The positive lead got moved to the other side of the box by the fender:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P6300186.jpg

Across the back of the motor (wait, no is that the front?:roll:):

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P6300187.jpg

And here is where it sits:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P6300188.jpg

All I need to do is make a hold down strap. That will be pretty easy.

TheRedBaron
01-07-07, 11:29 AM
That DP looks like some good fun! Is that an EGT sensor in the second bung, or something different?

Palmer1980
01-07-07, 01:12 PM
It's there for the eventual wideband.

Palmer1980
01-07-07, 03:27 PM
I waxed my car today.

3M cleaner wax followed by Maguires caranuba sealer.


I think it turned out ok :cheesy::

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P7010189.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P7010192.jpg

Palmer1980
01-07-07, 03:29 PM
Also, because I had 20 feet of mesh sitting around, I did the hood vent.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P7010194.jpg

I did these a while ago too, I think it's a nice, sutble look.


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P7010195.jpg

Saabeh
01-07-07, 06:31 PM
UR SABB IS SLO!

Nice, I had a feeling you were going to beat me to getting a downpipe. But I beat you with the Aero seats, so there. Oh and by the way, I am not going to sell my car.

TheRedBaron
01-07-07, 09:19 PM
That mesh on the heater intake is a pretty good idea, you always have to clean out leaves and sticks that fall in there.

philjohnhb
02-07-07, 03:41 AM
Yep, I like the heater intake mesh mod - think I might nick the idea for mine.

Tikka
02-07-07, 03:53 AM
Put on a shirt!

Looks great, I can't believe how good that paint is after seeing pics of the car when you first bought it.

The downpipe looks aweome too.

IronJoe
02-07-07, 10:56 AM
Looks fantastic Palmer! Your mods look... familiar somehow. ;) Also, Kong Rats on your awesome dyno!!!! Unbelievable. I'll have to try to beat those numbers when my new clutch comes in :cheesy:

Also, diggin the foglight base boost switch. I'm all set to do mine but haven't found a switch I like just yet! I think I'll be using the 9000's "TCS" switch, because it's pretty much traction control!



Is your downpipe a 2.5 inch to 3 inch? I can't tell.

Palmer1980
02-07-07, 11:11 AM
The hood mesh took all of 5 minutes to do. I never realized that it would have a pracitical application as well.


:)


Jake, shirtless is how I roll. My thick Finnish blood does not do well above about 75 degrees.

I like the TCS switch idea, and yes, the DP is 2.5" to 3" I did not have the $$$ to mess with a new flange and all that. Maybe next year...

Palmer1980
02-07-07, 11:23 AM
Oh, and I almost forgot these:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/louvvser002.jpg


Catalouge louvers!

Palmer1980
03-07-07, 12:55 PM
New elbow!

It's on the discharge side, to the IC.


It got rid of the factory one I cut, and turned 180 degrees.

Gee, I wonder what one is going to flow better?
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P7020198.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P7020197.jpg



Also, all the clamps on my IC system are now t-clamp. That makes me happy.

I don't know if this is going to make a noticeable difference, but now the cooling fans wont rub on the old elbow anymore..



Also, sabbeh, I'm glad you are not selling your car. What were you thinking?


:)

TheRedBaron
03-07-07, 01:03 PM
Hey, where'd you get that?

Palmer1980
03-07-07, 01:14 PM
A friend gave it to me in return for modding an APC box.


I think he got it here:

Http://www.boostcontroller.com

TheRedBaron
03-07-07, 01:17 PM
Hmm good to know - those are hard to find!

Saabeh
04-07-07, 02:48 PM
Also sabbeh, I'm glad you are not selling your car. What were you thinking?:)

Well I was thinking that I need to fix a bunch of things. And now I am manning up and doing it. I have a lead on a brand new rebuilt transmission for very short money. I found all the gaskets I need and I will get my head rebuilt. All of this during this fall/winter.

Saab-Daniel
12-07-07, 03:27 PM
Palmer, can you share the parts list for your downpipe?
My downpipe is completly gone, have to make a new one over the weekend.
Just figuring what I want to do... Make a new one or finish mocking up the stainless steel one I've already started...!
Daniel.

Palmer1980
12-07-07, 08:45 PM
I would finish the stainless one!


Anyway, from what I remember...


All from: Http://www.summitracing.com.

I know it does not help all of you guys "across the pond" but those of us stateside can use these guys, and get great service.

Reducer kit:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2DG4756&N=700+400304+115&autoview=sku

Fits the T3 with a little elongation of the holes, and has a nice gasket to seal on the turbo.

Bend:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D622004&N=700+115&autoview=sku
3" with a 4.5" radius. We used a 6" radius, but the 4" would fit better, and be easier to work with.

Straight tubing:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D640030&N=700+115&autoview=sku
You don't really need this, but might as well make a nice long section 3" just for fun :)

02 bungs (I bought 2. I'm bumming a wide band from a friend for a while):
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2DG2990&N=700+115&autoview=sku

We also used a 2" section of 2.5" curved tubing right off the turbo. Basically enough to clear the bolts...

Here is a 2.5" bend.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=WLK%2D42322&N=700+115&autoview=sku
I would just try and scrounge a chunk.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/P6300184.jpg

I hope that helps!

Palmer1980
13-07-07, 05:39 PM
I had some stickers made. Inspired by real life, WW2, 9-5, and C900 transmissions.


See the bombs?
http://www.taphilo.com/photo/pictures/b17/B-17G-909-Nose-Art.jpg



Out of a 9-5 manual:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r272/mpls244/misc/trannywarninglight.jpg



And, on my car. 1 per transmission failure. If the trans has to be REPLACED or FULLY REBUILT and has been REMOVED from the car, then it's shot, and therefore qualifies for the sticker.


On my car, in the 2 colors avalable:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/DBTstickers001.jpg


PM me for details!

VikingSpirit
13-07-07, 06:57 PM
When I first saw this I thought you were gonna place the little guy riding the bomb on the side of your car!

Nice idea, but your stickers are too big! With that much torque you're gonna run out of fender space pretty quick!:lol:

Why is it that even though the 900 transmission is well established as the weakest part of the drivetrain, its still the least modded or upgraded item? We'll run out of low mileage replacement units eventually!:o

BTW palmer you car is Badass, and very shiny, get those 99 quad lights installed though!:cool:

Palmer1980
13-07-07, 09:19 PM
too big? They are 2" across!

:D



Thanks for the compliment, the 99 lights are on hold so I can get my car ready for SOC.

I just picked up the final bits this morning...

2 words....grey, and black.

Palmer1980
27-07-07, 12:44 AM
Well, I remembered that I had an extra throttle body laying around.

So I decided to mod it!

My co-workers father runs a machine shop. I was thinking you could just bore it out a few mm bigger all around, and get rid on the ridge in the middle that the throttle plate rests on. I did some staring, (at work of course) and it looks like there is enough metal to get at least 3 mm off, and still be ok..

I would think the biggest issue would be making a new throttle plate, but I think I have that covered. It looks like you can slot the rod that the plate sits in to make the slot wider quite easily.

I ground one side of the rod down:



I also bought a emery wheel for my drill, and went nuts on the inside of the TB

Before:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/TBmodz003.jpg

After:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/TBmodz007.jpg

I knocked the sharp lip on the "hip" in the middle of the TB, and buffed it with another attachment.

I'll play with this for a while, then I'll see about getting to the machine shop...

On a side note, does anyone know the ID of the old SPG 9 "big bore" throttle body?

:)

Palmer1980
02-08-07, 01:09 PM
New rubber!


Yokohama EVS 100 in 205/50/16

Fits the wheel wells perfectly:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/NewRubberz001.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/NewRubberz002.jpg

IronJoe
02-08-07, 02:42 PM
Nice andy! How do they stick?


You should definitely lower it btw ;)

Palmer1980
03-08-07, 09:47 PM
Nice andy! How do they stick?


You should definitely lower it btw ;)


I have not really beat on the tires yet, I want them to wear in a little. Then it will be on. They are much smoother that my old tires, and make it feel like a new car.


The front is lowered, and I would have pictures, but the guy who put my tires on put my 2 good (re-painted) wheels put them in back on both sides. Hopefully I will find time to put the rear springs in before SOC.


I also got this in the mail today:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/GGcentercap001.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/GGcentercap003.jpg


ooooh, custom

Palmer1980
18-08-07, 01:51 AM
Ok, now it's 100% complete. After what, 6 months? :roll:
Before:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/REarAxleswap006.jpg
After:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SPRINZ001.jpg


I got the intrax springs in the rear finally. It took about 1.5 hours, and I did not have to use a spring compressor. I un-bolted the rear axle from the bolts on the front:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SPRINZ002.jpg

And then pushed it down, and popped the springs out. I had to push down a bit to get the springs in, and I had to use a jack to push the axle "arms" back into place. A little prying and I could bolt it right up.

It looks nice.


Oh, and the tires are nice too.


One more wheel to paint before SOC!

Breakin5speeds
18-08-07, 02:45 AM
I would check the alignment again Palmer, the front springs definitely change things, and the rears, well... the rear axle can move slightly when reinstalling and toe and caster get tweaked, and good alignment guy can adjust, just a thought, but looks good

philjohnhb
18-08-07, 07:26 AM
The car's looking good mate, breakin' is right - the front end geometry will have changed, especially the toe in.

Palmer1980
18-08-07, 11:15 AM
Good idea guys!


I'm driving 1300 miles to this years Saab Owners Convention. I'll see if I can find time to get it done befoe then!

Palmer1980
28-08-07, 11:11 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SOC%202007/SPGD001.jpg


Yup.

Pap
28-08-07, 11:53 PM
I love it! Awesome work. One day (year's....) I hope to do something like that to my '85.

c900
29-08-07, 12:42 AM
What kind of unit is this?? What kind of reading does it show? Where can you get it??

If that was available as a metric-calibrated unit, it'd have an instant home in my beasties!

Craig.

c900
29-08-07, 12:57 AM
New seats!


Oh, and they were 75 bucks.


:)

Do those seats use the same mounting arrangement as the earlier year 900's? I don't know if the seat mounting setup changed at all, but I've discover a few sets of leather c900 seats locally at a wreckers and I didn't get a chance to see if they had the same mounting as those in my 81 turbo.

Craig.

c900
29-08-07, 01:15 AM
Also, because I had 20 feet of mesh sitting around, I did the hood vent.



I did these a while ago too, I think it's a nice, sutble look.


And the mesh under the hood vent will have the added benefit of keeping leaves out of the ventilation intake box and help prevent the drain port blocking up and flooding inside the car when it rains (like me 81 turbo did until two days ago when I cleaned it out and unblocked the drain pipe!).

is the mesh real stainless steel or just the cheaper punched aluminium sheet stuff sold at the Ricer (tm) shops?

Craig.

IronJoe
29-08-07, 12:06 PM
congrats palmer, you sheep. j/k I just wanted to post this picture once more:

http://www.saabcentral.com/phpgallery/albums/album49/ITlives002.jpg

Palmer1980
29-08-07, 02:28 PM
I love that picture. I have a free evening, and lots of cold beer. It's a good day for an SPG kit.


:)


As for the mesh, it was gutter guard form a local home improvement center. $2.50 for 20 feet of it.



The seats are NOT compatible with the pre-1990 rails. I think it was 1990 that was the year for bolt-in aero seats...

Palmer1980
31-08-07, 12:55 AM
Boredom and tubing are a bad thing.
Yep:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SNORKEL002.jpg
View from inside:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SNORKEL003.jpg



Yes, I drove it like that.

The turbo noise was insane. You could hear the flutter when you let off, and it made a HUGE sucking noise when I was on boost. A few people in my neighborhood looked at me funny.


I would really like to get enough tubing to run it down the sunroof or something, so it can be right next to my head. You know, just for fun.

Palmer1980
01-09-07, 02:45 PM
SPG kit on!

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SOC%202007/SPGKITON003.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SOC%202007/SPGKITON005.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/SOC%202007/SPGKITON007.jpg



It really changes the whole car. It looks shorter, and lower. I really like it. Now that it's on, I'm going to re-paint one panel at a time. That should be fun.

IronJoe
02-09-07, 06:32 AM
That looks completely awesome. FINALLY. Looks like our constant peer pressure has paid off.


Debadge + whaletail. No Joke. Nuff said.



Why didn't you paint the panels when they were off the car?!

RWElphinstone
02-09-07, 08:02 AM
Your car looks sweet! Something we can all be in awe of. Good job!

philjohnhb
02-09-07, 09:45 AM
Really nice chum, well worth all your effort.

82900T
04-09-07, 11:38 PM
Wow, looks amazing. Maybe someday I'll make mine look that good, like when I'm not in college and broke as hell.

Palmer1980
26-10-07, 09:49 PM
Thanks for all the kind words.

Life got a little hectic there for a while, so I missed your posts.



I got this today:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/21head003.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/21head001.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/21head002.jpg

I have some big plans for those little holes!

The head has a date with the machine shop in about a month or so. I'm going to try something a little different.



I also have an 85 turbo exhaust cam that will be put in as well. As much as I love it, my transmission does not need 290lb/ft the the wheels.


I do, however, need more horsepower..

How about a trade?

:p

dlb
27-10-07, 12:45 AM
Defenitly one of the best looking 900's i've seen. Can't wait to see what you got planned.

Pap
18-11-07, 06:36 PM
Can't wait to see what's next. Awesome car.

Palmer1980
18-11-07, 07:37 PM
Can't wait to see what's next. Awesome car.


Thanks!


Here are some hints:

http://www.diamondstarmotorsport.com/garretparts_files/60-1.jpg

And:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3051/1000846gz9.jpg


I also have an 85 cam and a set of aero seats that are going in weather they like it or not.




It's going to be a fun winter.


:cool:

woywitka
18-11-07, 08:01 PM
holy crap!

What a car!

Palmer1980
20-11-07, 10:02 AM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/BFPARTS/BF1headerinstall.jpg



In!


:)


I will not get to drive it until tonight.

I will post my impressions.

VikingSpirit
20-11-07, 11:57 AM
Damn dude you are a legend! Fabbing your own tubular headers, very hardcore! They look awesome by the way:cool: You make it look so easy! Was there much effort involved in swapping the head for a 16v one? I steered clear of putting the 16v engine in my 99 due to pulley clearance issues, but if a 16v head can be bolted straight onto an 8v block maybe its time to start looking for one? :lol: What fuel system are you running now, did you use the injection from a 16V car or is it using M-squirt?

philb
20-11-07, 12:13 PM
They ditched the 8v much quicker in the states VikingSpirit, palmers car was a t16 to start with. There was a group buy for the headers.

Palmer1980
20-11-07, 12:25 PM
I wish I made those.



I just bought them.


But yes, they doo look sweet. Tonight we'll see how they work.



I have T5 injectors, and a JSP chip.

philb
20-11-07, 01:12 PM
Try to record what it sounds like :cheesy:

IronJoe
20-11-07, 01:35 PM
Dyno after installation, before anything else goes in.

Palmer1980
20-11-07, 03:48 PM
Clutch, then dyno.



:)

I have put T5 injectors in as well, but I do plan to do back-to-back dyno runs, so that won't be an issue.


I plan to record it ASAP, and post it up.

TheRedBaron
20-11-07, 03:58 PM
But if your last dyno was with a slipping clutch, and this one isn't, the numbers on this one will read higher all else being equal. Do dyno's account for the outside temp of the air?

Palmer1980
20-11-07, 06:14 PM
Yes, they do.


Also, I plan on doing a run with the new header, then getting the asbestos gloves out, and swapping over to a stock header. If I use Hige temp anti-seize while putting the new one on, swapping over quickly should be cake. I'll also need a big fan of some kind to cool things off.:lol:




I have made a few other changes as well, so it will be interesting to see how those go. I hope to dyno in the spring with a new 6-puck clutch.

:)

Matthew
20-11-07, 06:47 PM
That manifold looks cool as :cool: :cool: If there's another group buy for these I might be up for at least two (maybe more).

Can't wait for the results :D

dlb
20-11-07, 11:16 PM
Clutch, then dyno.


Dyno or BAN! :lol: :lol:

Palmer1980
22-11-07, 01:48 AM
Dyno or BAN! :lol: :lol:


LOLZ. I need a new clutch!


Anyway, sounds:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g177/jvkrocak/Random/th_elhpalmer003.jpg (http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g177/jvkrocak/Random/?action=view&current=elhpalmer003.flv)

philb
22-11-07, 05:44 AM
Wow. It seems to have all the advantage of 100% ELH, but has still kept a really nice sound :)

Honkey
22-11-07, 10:23 AM
RED DRAGON LIVES!

Damn that sounds good, no cat? Where is the psssh? I'm so jealous ;oops:

Green9kAERO
23-11-07, 11:01 PM
wow that is pretty amazing.. 6 puck clutches are agressive, eat flywheels... maybe a ceramic clutch might be a little better... idk i havent used ether, but my bros 6 puck ATE his pressure plate and flywheel..
JP

Palmer1980
15-12-07, 03:49 PM
Well, the car is sold.


I'm sad to see it go, but it is going to a local enthusiast (who actually has seen my car driving around in the summer) and he will be only driving it in the summer. It will be a few weeks before it goes to him, because he needs to get the storage situation sorted out.


It's been lots of fun, and I still have my 83 to play with. :)

I'll end this thread with one of my favorite pictures:


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/Smiley/ITlives1002.jpg


Thanks for all the help.

DanF.
15-12-07, 05:48 PM
The King is dead....

Long live the King.

TheRedBaron
15-12-07, 07:32 PM
Que the lone trumpeter playing taps...

Palmer1980
15-12-07, 07:38 PM
You guys are making my 83 feel bad.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/19838V003.jpg


It has SPG wheels, and headlight surrounds now. It will be orange in the spring.

:)

xassh
15-12-07, 07:51 PM
Well, the car is sold.

did i read that right?!?

Green9kAERO
15-12-07, 08:52 PM
i suppose Iron joe didnt get it.. poor guy, that car would have been an Amazing part of anyones collection... i just LOVE 86s
JP

IronJoe
16-12-07, 12:20 AM
*sigh*



Once the new owner installs an MBC and blows the motor I'll drive cross country in a beatup suburban and tow it to the PNW.


Thanks for all the fun times Palmer.

Palmer1980
16-12-07, 12:57 AM
*sigh*



Once the new owner installs an MBC and blows the motor I'll drive cross country in a beatup suburban and tow it to the PNW.


Thanks for all the fun times Palmer.


:)


The new owner will/has gotten a lecture about the finer points of C900 ownership.


Plus, he lives 20 minutes away from me.


It's all good.


IJ, I have a trojan for you too.

Boosted
16-12-07, 10:31 AM
Booooooo

The new owner better join here or TSL

Palmer1980
27-02-08, 07:08 PM
Uh, so when 3 deals fell through, I took it as a sign to keep the car.


Now I just need to convince the wife.


That should be easy.

:roll:

philb
27-02-08, 07:11 PM
If it all fails, get a quote to ship the car to Ireland :)

philjohnhb
28-02-08, 03:46 AM
Uh, so when 3 deals fell through, I took it as a sign to keep the car.


Now I just need to convince the wife.


That should be easy.

:roll:

Just get her to read this thread and the despair from your fellow saabistas.

TooMany2cvs
28-02-08, 06:11 AM
If it all fails, get a quote to ship the wife to Ireland :)

Mmm. A romantic weekend with plenty of Guinness should make her more amenable.

philb
28-02-08, 07:01 AM
Heh, the threat of that might work alright, could backfire further though :) You could try saying that she'll get to drive the 900 more now, that should do it.. maybe not :cheesy:

IronJoe
28-02-08, 09:42 AM
Yay. speedparts

Palmer1980
28-02-08, 11:29 AM
Good advice guys!

Here it is, in it's winter home.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/C900louvers004.jpg

Once a week, it gets rolled into the drive and ran for 20 minutes or so.

I check all the fluids, then park it again.

Saabeh
28-02-08, 11:34 AM
;oops:

<-- Fell through.

<-- Wicked noob.

IronJoe
28-02-08, 11:36 AM
He finally came around. Thank god.

Why are the GFs in the garage, buddy?

Palmer1980
28-02-08, 11:52 AM
Why are the GFs in the garage, buddy?

I'm trying these:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/1999%209-3%20pictures/Klingonstuck002.jpg

That is the last 9-3 picture I will post in this thread. :cheesy:


I think I'm keeping the GF's, and having them powdercoated.

I also really really want to drive my C900.

amish_geek
28-02-08, 11:59 AM
You can sell the 83 to me if your wifey wont let you keep 2 C900's. She obviously was going to let you keep one, now you can keep the other!

Palmer1980
28-02-08, 12:08 PM
I can't sell the 83, as it was free to me.

It will stay "in the circle" if you know what I mean.

saabchilten
28-02-08, 04:49 PM
palmer has joined the "dark side" of the saab world bwahaha. :lol: i still love the c900s though. wish i could get my mechanic's spg to have a little fun.












yes i own a ng900 -runs and ducks for cover-

sleeper9kt
29-02-08, 12:11 PM
You can sell the 83 to me if your wifey wont let you keep 2 C900's. She obviously was going to let you keep one, now you can keep the other!

Maybe some day, if you are lucky enough the '83 could make it to your stable of cars. It's getting whoored around quite a bit now!

:)

I am super happy that the '86 is staying with palmer. Awesome stuff.

Also, I hope to use the '83 as a super-duper rallycrossing sun-of-a-gun :cheesy:
...just noticed I never changed my signature, since I gave the car to Palmer, sweet!