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amish_geek
1st November 2006, 04:11 PM
I figure it's about time to start tracking things and laying them out. What better place than a Project Thread!

I too will follow Daniels Lead in format:

The Name:
The reason for the car being called "The Gripen" is due to the personalized license plates that I ordered. Here in Minnesota, the plates "GRIPEN" had not yet been taken, so when I registered the title and had the car licensed, those were the plates I chose.

The Goal:
To have a very clean, elegant C900 SPG that turns heads, both in looks and driveability. I'm not going for massive power, low to mid 200's for HP. But this car will be driven fairly regularly, so eating transmissions is not an option.

The Car:
This is a 1989 Saab 900 SPG. I bought it for $2500 in October of 2006 with 181,000 miles on the clock. It runs exceptionally well, is very solid with very little rust (at least that I've found).

http://static.flickr.com/91/250230654_89ece33b8e.jpg

The Specs:
Current work/Mods completed

10/06 - Removed Factory Tape Deck and Equializer, installed Sony CD Deck in lower console where the Equalizer was.
10/06 - Fixed lower console gauge cluster (Ammeter, Oil Temp, Oil PSI)
12/06 - New license plates "GRIPEN"
12/06 - K&N Cone Filter Installed
12/06 - A/C System (compressor, evaporator, condensor & hoses) removed
12/06 - Semi 900Aero APC Mod (just turning the pots, we didn't solder on any resistors)
12/06 - Door Cards re-upholstered
01/07 - Older Style Throttle Body (with Dashpot) added
01/07 - TurboXS RFL BOV Added
03/07 - TurboXS RFL BOV Removed
04/07 - Stock Throttle Body put back on
04/07 - Rear Window Louvres Added
05/07 - Window Tint Removed
05/07 - SPG Panels removed to be painted black
05/07 - Whale Tail ordered & received


The Future:
Planned work/mods

- 3 Gauge DIN cluster where the old Tape Deck was (Boost PSI, Air/Fuel, Exhaust Temp)
- FMIC
- New Downpipe / Exhaust
- New Paint (Black Pearl)
- Fix Interior Headliner
- Addition of Fog Lights

amish_geek
1st November 2006, 04:13 PM
The Previous post will be updated with descriptions, this post will be updated with Photos.

My New License Plates:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/331934902_35cccfd957.jpg

K&N Filter installed:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/331929412_8c087d01b0.jpg

The car right after I bought it, in front of my house:
http://static.flickr.com/100/276811353_ed84c52e95.jpg

Photo from the Previous Owner before I bought the car:
http://static.flickr.com/91/250230654_89ece33b8e.jpg

unkleG'sif
1st November 2006, 04:19 PM
nice dude - very nice indeed. may i suggest, that clear indicators look especially good on darker cars... and just peachy on black cars :cool:

G

Saabstudent
1st November 2006, 08:28 PM
Second Drg23's comments about the clear front corners - the only way to go IMHO.

Not sure why you'd bother removing your A/C system though - esp in America.

G

amish_geek
2nd November 2006, 01:51 AM
Second Drg23's comments about the clear front corners - the only way to go IMHO.

Not sure why you'd bother removing your A/C system though - esp in America.

G

The purpose to remove the AC is 2 fold. One, it currently has no charge, so I would need to pay to have the system re-charged with the newer stuff (R-4 I believe). Two, the AC unit sucks power from the engine, even when it's not running, it still is a power drain since the engine still needs to work to turn tbe belt and the compressor wheel. Thus until I decide to pay to have the system recharged, I'm better off removing the unit. It will save space and free up power.

Plus, when living in Northern Minnesota, there is only 2 weeks out of the year where AC is actually needed. During these 2 weeks, the windows down and sunroof open will suffice. The rest of the year, I'll need to use the Heater.

Matthew
2nd November 2006, 06:43 AM
the AC unit sucks power from the engine, even when it's not running
An invisible amount of power is lost when the AC's idle - the pulley contains a clutch which disengages the compressor. So although the belt's running, the compressor spindle is stationary and consuming almost zero energy.

Saabeh
2nd November 2006, 11:24 AM
I removed my A/C because it opened up the engine bay. As a joke I kept telling myself "Mike, race cars don't have A/C..." But I removed EVERYTHING. All hoses, brackets, front thing, condenser in the cabin intake etc. You loose weight and your car runs cooler. Another added bonus is you can have a thick intercooler mounted right behind the grille.

amish_geek
2nd November 2006, 12:12 PM
I removed my A/C because it opened up the engine bay. As a joke I kept telling myself "Mike, race cars don't have A/C..." But I removed EVERYTHING. All hoses, brackets, front thing, condenser in the cabin intake etc. You loose weight and your car runs cooler. Another added bonus is you can have a thick intercooler mounted right behind the grille.

And when you remove the Compressor unit, you're left with a nice flat spot to place your beer while you work on the car. :)

(Palmer showed me that handy spot on his 86)

unkleG'sif
2nd November 2006, 12:18 PM
not with the engine running.... warm beer is a bad thing :o


;)

sleeper9kt
2nd November 2006, 03:31 PM
And when you remove the Compressor unit, you're left with a nice flat spot to place your beer while you work on the car. :)

(Palmer showed me that handy spot on his 86)

Palmer is just too lazy to remove the A/C bracket ;)

Really, though - I'd remove all things related to the air conditioning system on that car. It frees up quite a bit of room under the hood!

And check of Talledega Red for your repaint, it's the $hiznit!

IronJoe
2nd November 2006, 04:54 PM
Palmer is just too lazy to remove the A/C bracket ;)

I didn't remove the bracket because it's a great point to hold the engine when you're swapping transmissions. Otherwise you'd have to find a non-AC car to swap brackets with. Seeing as I change my transmission out every year or so, it's helpful :cheesy:

BTW amish, nice car. I third (or fourth?) the clear corners as your next mod.

amish_geek
2nd November 2006, 06:21 PM
First order of business is engine tweaking/cleaning (moreso cleaning than tweaking).

Over the winter, I'm going to plan out/decide/design a megasquirt system for it. Along with make it really stinking loud with a BOV. Around here, people don't think twice about Saabs, since they're either driven by snub nosed upper class at the Gitchi Gammi club, or tree hugging naturalists with their Euro Beater cars. So I want people to go "WTF was that!?!?" when I drive through down town and canal park in the summer, getting on it in 2nd gear between stoplights :D

Also, depending on garage space, and whichever way I decide to go on the paint job, will determine the schedule for visual mods. I don't want to put all this work into little extras only to re-do it when I strip down and prep the car. Same goes for the interior. I don't want to re-do the headliner, only to worry about it when sending the car to the painters.

So I guess, it all depends on the paint job. Dang, gotta find a workspace. Time to buy that house with the 3 car garage.

grif900
23rd November 2006, 04:39 PM
i am insanely jelous.:evil:

griffin (grippen in some languages) davies

amish_geek
26th December 2006, 04:52 PM
So Palmer, JK9Ks, myself, and another one of our Saab buddies had a little pow-wow at JK's house in Minneapolis last Saturday (Dec 23)

The goal of the day was to Clean JK's garage, do some work on my SPG, and make Greg's SPG look purty.

Here are all of the pictures: http://flickr.com/photos/amish_geek/sets/72157594436270502/
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Here are almost all of the Saabs lined up in front of the house so we could make room in the back to move the "parts car" (Thats 5 Saabs lined up in a row. JK's 9-3, Gregs SPG, JK's 900, my SPG, JK's 9000 Aero)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/331924089_583d72e58a.jpg

Next, we tackled removing the 88? SPG "Parts Car" from the garage. With only rear donuts on it, we had to lift and drag the body out. (JK is the hick on the left, and Palmer is the retarded thug on the right)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/331926324_8bc4341164.jpg

After moving the parts car out of the garage, We started working on my SPG. Palmer worked on installing the K&N filter while JK and I worked to move the entire A/C system (compressor, condensor, evaporator & hoses) to the trunk.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/331927446_84c43f0ade.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/331928694_225ad7f453.jpg

amish_geek
26th December 2006, 04:53 PM
(I'm the hunchback of MN working on the evaporator. You can see the parts car under the buick car cover behind me)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/134/331923506_236d5e2339.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/331929412_8c087d01b0.jpg

Here you can see both mine and Greg's cars. Palmer was doing his premo buff and wax job on Greg's SPG in the garage.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/331931213_61ef17732b.jpg

The front bumper came off to remove the A/C condensor. In a couple months, a nice BIG 23x18x3 Intercooler will be mounted right between the headlights all stealthy :)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/331932686_c5c6aa631c.jpg


After everything was all said and done, JK did a mod to my APC (Automated Performance Control) box, turning up 2 of the potentiometers. I'm now getting a signifigant amount of more boost :biggthump And with the K&N, the "Whooosh" of the turbo spool is VERY LOUD

Now I can't wait to install my new TurboXS RFL BOV that I picked up on Friday. Unfortunately we didn't have enough time to work on it on saturday.

Anyways, 4 Saab nuts + working on 2 Saabs for most of the afternoon + Beer = one hell of a saturday!

Breakin5speeds
27th December 2006, 10:16 AM
TOO late now, BUT FYI: Bumper can stay on to remove AC condensor, there is a plastic half moon lip underneath the condensor, something like 6 screws remove it, 4 screws and the condensor LITERALLY falls out of the car......takes 15 minutes tops

Palmer1980
27th December 2006, 12:32 PM
You know, you're right, but when the front bumper is only held on by 2 bolts, why not take it off?


It's fun!

amish_geek
28th December 2006, 12:25 AM
So I got bored tonight, and decided to go to the fabric store to try to find some fabric to re-do my door cards in my SPG. I wanted to go with a charcoal microfiber suede or something like that. But I found a black faux-leather fabric. It looks really nice, so I bought the rest of the roll (2 yards) for about $17.

Here are some before and after shots. All of the pics can be found here http://www.flickr.com/photos/amish_geek/sets/72157594295729642/

Right hand door card before:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/335876982_036aa32fca.jpg

Left hand door card before:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/154/335877357_41f507d177.jpg

Both cards:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/335877781_86ee4168eb.jpg

In Progress:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/152/335878249_1368048dec.jpg

All done:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/335878798_ed49b2d3d3.jpg

amish_geek
28th December 2006, 12:27 AM
Installed:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/335879231_c8b420ac84.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/335879913_9042b4c654.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/335880161_b4c715757a.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/152/335880342_bb25521ed5.jpg

sleeper9kt
31st December 2006, 01:05 PM
Amish, just an FYI, I don't post with the same screen name here as I do over on saablink. Sleeper9kt here, JK9000s over there ;-)

CooperS7777
31st December 2006, 01:30 PM
Damn man...Im so Jelous- I wish I had the garage space to bring my SPG in over the winter and do some real work to it!

misu
1st January 2007, 07:30 AM
Hi,

good work, but (sorry for this):
Photos of Your door inserts shows some imperfections on its surface, what means there are some imperfections under the leather. Did You put some underwear there? I mean a thin layer of foam, thick no more than 2 - 3 mm (sorry for metric, but You can convert it, I think) should be glued from back side of leather and this sandwich should be put on base material, as You did.

amish_geek
11th May 2007, 01:15 PM
Well by an overwhelming majority, people want me to bring the Gripen to SOC instead of my Stage 3+ Nordic NG900. Silly old people! :P

So I'm getting the old bird ready.

So far my plans are as follows:

- Louvres Installed * DONE *
- Crappy Window Tint Removed * DONE *
- SPG Panels & bumpers painted black to match the body
- Body rust fixed
- Body paint touched up
- Paint polished/waxed
- Custom 3" Exhaust
- New rotors/pads on all 4 corners
- New/Repaired headliner



More expensive things to do/buy

- Whale Tail (SASAB Fiberglass Replica)
- Aero / Super Aero wheels (gunmetal + polished lip)
- New tires on the new wheels
- 9000 Aero Seats

- Possibly larger FMIC
- Possibly Megasquirt



I'll add more things to the list as I go.


I stripped the tint off the rear windows and hatch. I still need to finish razor-blading the windows and scrub the hatch with window cleaner to finish removing all the glue. And last Saturday I installed the rear window Louvres. I'm going to remove the louvres and re-paint them gloss black when I do my SPG panels.


Here is the work completed so far:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/201/483287339_daafb22e4e.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/227/483287551_4dad34cf3c.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/203/492636889_8a977df32c.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/492616344_d1a203e323.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/230/492637031_a3e6636aa6.jpg

amish_geek
11th May 2007, 01:18 PM
I've gutted the Grille, and will be painting it black, and putting mesh behind it. I'm playing with the idea of de-winging it, but want to get a 2nd spare grille to play around with that, rather than ruining my only grille.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/492638155_ce3816a90d.jpg


For anyone looking to remove the SPG panels from their car, here is my tip for getting the rivets out of the door (there are a lot of them)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/492636449_1609d15a8a.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/208/492636523_1aa4a56fe4.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/492616166_654a07bcef.jpg

amish_geek
11th May 2007, 01:21 PM
As you can see, my Paint is a little dead. I'm going to have the car professionally detailed with all the trim removed, to buff & polish the life back into the paint.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/483256344_ab45c0f694.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/483256470_3a34e76a61.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/483256708_779136a11f.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/201/483289301_6dd22d06f8.jpg



I also need to get new tires. rather than wasting money on new tires for these wheels, I'm going to try to find a set of Aero/Super Aero wheels and get tires for those ones instead.

Like my Racing slicks?!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/483289691_deedcba3ab.jpg

amish_geek
11th May 2007, 01:26 PM
The underside has a bit of rust, but not too bad. I'm looking for input/advice on what to do to repair/prevent it from getting worse:

Anyone know where I can get new straps for the gas tank?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/483256216_5fd6a0cd37.jpg


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/483256022_7ba0e425d4.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/229/483288217_6c9bb32308.jpg


I'm thinking 3" Turbo back exhaust with a single resonator is in order :)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173/483287141_58e04630b7.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/492617206_83ec420b10.jpg

amish_geek
11th May 2007, 01:27 PM
More pics of the underside/rust:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/492617072_69b2037e22.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/223/492637631_d503f05459.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/492637567_a2f75fba74.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/492616812_83f9101ab8.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/199/492616732_c79607c838.jpg

amish_geek
11th May 2007, 02:13 PM
Last night I had to pick up a 8mm hex socket to remove the bumper, along with a T10 Torx screwdriver to get the itty bitty screws out of the wheel fender flares.

All stripped!

Now this weekend she's gettin washed. She looks like of like a 99 at this point without the bumpers and trim.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/493779608_2ab25224a4.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/493779746_4947cae4bb.jpg


Tools of the trade, and all the panels
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/493801819_bc09704eed.jpg



http://farm1.static.flickr.com/201/493801969_fdefa8c92f.jpg

SteveMcqueen
11th May 2007, 05:26 PM
This is quite strange. You and me seem to be starting our projects at the exact same time, and with almost the exact same goals. The only differences are mine started out as a non SPG, you want MS, and I want BBS or Ronals.

And mine has 80,000 less miles :cheesy:

Looks great, the paint is far better than mine, and the body looks pretty straight.

Saab-Daniel
11th May 2007, 06:56 PM
Nice project mate...
Think you need to pay some attention to this though:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5307/492637631d503f05459kq6.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=492637631d503f05459kq6.jpg)

I put a red ring around a whole...
Typical saab-fault, but it could be the picture not showing the hole correctly...?
Daniel.

amish_geek
18th May 2007, 05:25 PM
Well, I just ordered, and received confirmation, a whale tail from sasab.com. They still have a few left, and have a sale price of $225, (not listed on the site). Contact them to confirm availability and price.

So that is being shipped on monday, and should arrive in a week or so.

Tonight I'm going to scrub & clean the SPG panels, and tomorrow they are getting painted.

Should I go Gloss Black? Semi-Gloss Black? Gloss Very-Dark Gray? Semi-Gloss Very Dark Gray?

I definitely want black or very very dark gray. And I'm not sure yet if I want gloss or not. Which finish shows the imperfections more?

IronJoe
18th May 2007, 05:32 PM
CONGRATS on the whaletail!!! That will look awesome.


As for the panels, gloss definitely shows the imperfections. Take a look at my pics, you can see the individual indents where the panels bolt to their railings, because of the glossy light reflection. That said, IMO gloss black SPGs look fantastic. Just check out Royce's SPG on Twinsaabs and drool away.


Love the louvers btw.

TheRedBaron
18th May 2007, 05:46 PM
Dang, car's gonna shape up nice!

Personally, I'd go with a semi-gloss/satin finish in dark grey, and here's the reason: your car is already black (obviously) - if you paint the panels black, the finish and tint of the paint would have to match the car perfectly, otherwise it might look out of place. I think grey sets the panels off nicely, I can't see a gloss finish working with the gray, so I'd go with the semi.

That being said, if the whole car (or at least the problem parts) got a fresh coat of gloss black along with the SPG panels and whaletail, I think it would be übersexy, and you'd probably have to carry a baseball bat in the car just to fight off the women you attract :D .

amish_geek
18th May 2007, 06:18 PM
Well, after close inspection of my car. There are 2-3 panels that look "dead". The paint does not have its luster, and looks faded. Looking closely at those "dead" panels, I can see that they've been re-painted previously. Around the passenger side door handle, the pain is flaking away, and there is the nice rich black paint underneath.

So something happened, either the car was keyed in the past or something, and a couple of the panels were re-sprayed black, but were not properly polished/buffed before being waxed, or the black didn't match exactly.


That being said, I'm still going to try a professional buff/polish/wax to bring the life back, but on the passenger side door the "new" paint is flaking around the edges.

Should I just completely strip the car, get it sandblasted, and repainted black? Or what should I do?

SteveMcqueen
18th May 2007, 06:30 PM
I agree, the new paint will never match the oxidization(sp) of the original paint.

amish_geek
29th May 2007, 05:41 PM
What do you think?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/212/520051387_fde73c4d32.jpg


Update:
Whale tail arrived. It looks great! I'm going to install it after the car's paint has been detailed. I'm also going to paint it to match the SPG panels (semi-gloss black).

I've also painted one SPG panel so far. It took up a WHOLE CAN of semi-gloss for the single center panel. I then put a coat of crystal clear enamel over the black. I'll sand/scuff with 800 grit in a week once it's cured, and do another clear coat for smoothness.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/224/520052765_5011581ff7.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/520020668_c51d1832f5.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/520053373_db610113c9.jpg

amish_geek
29th May 2007, 05:42 PM
Here are the panels:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/190/520021560_52736cf32e.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/233/520054233_f2b67eb606.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/245/520021784_2a66dacad0.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/201/520054535_381db016fb.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/520054645_da489dc7eb.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/248/520054803_f42b775a6c.jpg

TheRedBaron
29th May 2007, 06:56 PM
Looks good, man, especially with the louvers. :D

I've also painted one SPG panel so far. It took up a WHOLE CAN of semi-gloss for the single center panel.:o Did you put like 10 coats on?!? It's not good to put that much paint on a car, it's better if it's thin, it needs to be able to flex a little bit. Unless you coated it, sanded to almost nothing, repeated. That's different.

amish_geek
30th May 2007, 01:54 AM
Looks good, man, especially with the louvers. :D

:o Did you put like 10 coats on?!? It's not good to put that much paint on a car, it's better if it's thin, it needs to be able to flex a little bit. Unless you coated it, sanded to almost nothing, repeated. That's different.

I did what it recommended on the can. 2 light coats, and 1 medium coat, with 10mins in between coats. It took that much to get the color to even out.


In a week, after it's cured, Im going to sand with 800 grit and do another coat of clear.

Honkey
30th May 2007, 07:17 AM
plz plz plz plz plz

Make a step by step guide with pics on installing the spg bodykit panels!!

that would kick *** man


Your saab is looking crisp dude!

amish_geek
30th May 2007, 12:46 PM
plz plz plz plz plz

Make a step by step guide with pics on installing the spg bodykit panels!!

that would kick *** man


Your saab is looking crisp dude!

Installation is reverse of removal.

Hey! I could write for Haynes! :lol:


Step 1) Screw mounting brackets to car
Step 2) Slide panels onto mounting brackets
Step 3) Secure panels to car

TheRedBaron
30th May 2007, 01:04 PM
So to install an SPG kit you need to screw into the sheet metal, ie it's irreversable? :confused:

IronJoe
30th May 2007, 01:10 PM
no.

pull up your stock rubber trim, underneath you'll see square holes. To install the kit you pop in these white plastic inserts that the rails screw into. Then the SPG panels slide onto the rails in position.

The only serious part is riveting down the door panels. And that's not a big deal at all.

/threadjack

amish_geek
30th May 2007, 01:17 PM
You can see the metal rails/brackets as I was removing the panels from the car:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/227/483287551_4dad34cf3c.jpg

And you can see the holes that the rails screw into:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/201/493801969_fdefa8c92f.jpg
Larger version: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/201/493801969_d8f13dcfb9_o.jpg

Honkey
31st May 2007, 08:44 AM
The only serious part is riveting down the door panels. And that's not a big deal at all.

Wait up... you have to rivet a part of the SPG Kit?


btw thanks for the help geek :)

amish_geek
31st May 2007, 01:02 PM
Wait up... you have to rivet a part of the SPG Kit?


btw thanks for the help geek :)
Pictures from earlier in the thread, pertaining to the Door Rivets

Rivet Removal:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/492636449_1609d15a8a.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/208/492636523_1aa4a56fe4.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/492616166_654a07bcef.jpg


I plan on using small bolts/nuts rather than riveting it back together.

amish_geek
15th June 2007, 01:08 PM
So, if pro is the opposite of con, then yesterday, I did not make congress:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/550724535_df25471ce9.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/550510036_31cb1c4da7.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/550508960_48a44e7def.jpg

Took almost 2 cans of semi-gloss to get those 4 done. I need to go pick up more paint. I estimate another 8-10 cans and I'll finish all of them. The bumpers are going to be a *****. I might put them on the car and mask off everything.

IronJoe
15th June 2007, 01:18 PM
sweet, I was waiting for an update on this project! Looking good amish... although for all the work you've done rattle-canning, I'd have picked up a cheap gravity feed gun from Harbor Freight and bought some ppg gloss black. Probably woulda been less work.

How's the whaletail coming?? Also - are you going to leave your trim chrome or black it out? Blacked out chrome trim makes SPGs look AWESOM-O
http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/7/6/F/sp802_Awesome-O_2.jpg

amish_geek
19th June 2007, 06:28 PM
More Progress... Only 4 panels left to paint. They'll all be done by the end of the week, and the car is going to a buddies place to be professionally polished/detailed. I hope to have it all back together by early next week :)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1306/571164122_4c189330eb.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1124/571164364_b4c9a5f9b8.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1182/571164708_3fbf3fdf41.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1232/571165150_2b297ef624.jpg

IronJoe
19th June 2007, 06:34 PM
Nice work man!! That is going to look fantastic. Can't wait to see the finished product!

amish_geek
19th June 2007, 06:41 PM
Nice work man!! That is going to look fantastic. Can't wait to see the finished product!

Thanks :) Same here!

I'm using the Duplicolor Semi-Gloss Black enamel paint that comes in aerosol cans. You can see 3 of the empty cans sitting on the black stand in the back of this pic:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1306/571164122_4c189330eb.jpg




At $5.99/can, I've used 5 cans so far, not including the 2 I used on my test panel and have to re-do.

I estimate another 4-5 cans to finish the project. So overall I'll end up spending between $60-70 on paint.


The paint says it's for use on all auto accessories and trim, so I'm hoping it holds up well and doesnt scratch/flake off very easily. I'm scuffing the panels with 400grit sandpaper before I paint.

The semi-gloss makes the black look less dark than a gloss would, so when I test-place the painted panels against the car, the panels still look lighter, and it maintains it's SPG appearance.



After seeing Brad's SPG with the catalog louvres, I'm now looking for a set of those to replace my shadow louvres. If anyone knows of someone with the Saab catalog louvres and would be willing to trade for my Shadow louvres, please let me know!

IronJoe
19th June 2007, 07:00 PM
After seeing Brad's SPG with the catalog louvres, I'm now looking for a set of those to replace my shadow louvres. If anyone knows of someone with the Saab catalog louvres and would be willing to trade for my Shadow louvres, please let me know!

I don't recall seeing these... do you have a link to a pic?


EDIT: Are those the ones with the 3rd brake light cutout?

Palmer1980
20th June 2007, 01:00 AM
You mean someone besides me?

I'm not selling mine.

:)

I just started to re-finish them tonight too!


Nice work on the paint, BTW.


EDIT:

Here is what he's looking for:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/louvvser002.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/palmer80/louvvser001.jpg

amish_geek
22nd June 2007, 03:01 PM
Update: I've also set up a project blog for my car at www.projectsaab.com Here is my SPG's blog: http://projectsaab.com/gripenspg/

amish_geek
1st July 2007, 09:01 PM
Panels all painted:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1361/688622528_eba00f5bf7.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1435/687781133_24e7737fc5.jpg



Whale Tail painted:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1010/687782927_6ae990d1c8.jpg



At Jeremy's house getting detailed, didn't get any action shots. This is after the Buffing, and polishing, then triple washing the car to get any excess compound out. After the pics we rubbed 2 coats of wax. The first basecoat of wax took almost an hour to set. The 2nd coat only lasts 3-4 washes but shines like nothing else, that took 20 mins to set.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1252/688654370_e1100c4c94.jpg


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1038/687801455_7477ba29ec.jpg

amish_geek
1st July 2007, 09:02 PM
Then Saturday, I went on the VW Vortex Duluth Cruise to gooseberry falls. Took some nice outdoor pics before, during, and after the cruise. We didn't finish detailing the car until 1:30am. I finished putting all the panels on Saturday morning right before the cruise. The left rear panel, the anchors came out of the metal, and the replacement anchors I bought dont work, so I need to find some way to anchor the bracket/rail to the car so the panel wont fall off.


Anyways, whoever said you can't polish a Turd didn't have my buddy Jeremy as his detailer.


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1008/687761551_fce3ca83b0.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1074/687764293_84d621f1ab.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1289/687803789_8c0334c5cc.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1117/687806387_d6b933d890.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1423/687776181_f05640f122.jpg

amish_geek
1st July 2007, 09:02 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1336/688541732_de46453a70.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1403/687720647_a751beec0a.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1237/687639589_1c08b64683.jpg



Oh, and with the 2.5" turbo-back no-cat no-muffler exhaust, while on the cruise, I was misfiring like a mofo and backfiring and popping with anything over 1/4 throttle and it idled funny. So on the way back to Duluth, we stopped by my buddy Pete's house because he has a nice garage and tool set, so I could use his feeler gauge (I had new plugs in my glovebox ready to install, I just hadn't installed them yet). So we installed them.

Here is a used, ****ty, Champion plug that I took out of the SPG, next to the new NGK BCP7ES plug, properly gapped.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1128/687659669_0eca71b145.jpg


It runs a LOT better now, and pulls hard again and boost solidly again. And now the full exhaust sounds even better. Now for a 3" downpipe and a 3" magnaflow muffler.

Palmer1980
1st July 2007, 11:24 PM
That looks great.


Well. Done.


:cool:

VikingSpirit
2nd July 2007, 05:41 AM
Thats some wicked SPG you've got there! Really shines up a treat!

Bonnet / Hood Mirror is amazing! :o :cool:

TheRedBaron
2nd July 2007, 10:43 AM
Wow, I'm impressed, looks great! What did your friend Jeremy use to get it so twinkly?

amish_geek
18th July 2007, 01:09 PM
Yesterday I bought tires for the set of Konig 16" alloy wheels I had picked up a while back. They are Viggen Replicas, with a 4-bolt pattern for the C900. I think they look really well, and add an updated look to the car.

Here are some pics!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1263/809414197_edd5e52cb7.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1188/846286788_c391842ce5.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1121/846287318_dc282cfd07.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1371/846287962_af864cac96.jpg

RWElphinstone
18th July 2007, 01:22 PM
I think they look really well, and add an updated look to the car.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1371/846287962_af864cac96.jpg


So, now you've got an updated look, with a backdated look because of the louvers! ;) Sell them to ME! :lol:

IronJoe
18th July 2007, 03:38 PM
I can't tell if I like them till you lower it.

TheRedBaron
18th July 2007, 03:45 PM
Are you planning on replacing the bumper chrome strips? I think it would bring down the contrast level of the wheel a bit, they seem to jump out a bit to my eyes...

the capitan
18th July 2007, 03:51 PM
i have some genuine saab louvres for sale in black with orgional fixing kit......


sorry for the highjack!

cheers:cool:

IronJoe
18th July 2007, 03:56 PM
Lower it amish.

http://www.saabcentral.com/phpgallery/albums/album49/846286788_ad2e811c32_o.sized.jpg

RWElphinstone
18th July 2007, 03:57 PM
i have some genuine saab louvres for sale in black with orgional fixing kit......

In before the moderation! :p

I'm with Red - if you replace the chrome, it will make your car stand apart! (That's what I miss about today's cars - they've done away with much of the chrome.)

:cool:

the capitan
18th July 2007, 04:50 PM
i agree put the chrome back in the bumpers looks loads better......


better still get an air flow kit!!:D

amish_geek
19th July 2007, 01:25 PM
I'm seriously considering ordering all new chrome strips for it.

I also want to get a set of either Intrax or B&G lowering springs, with Bilstein HD's.

I'm also thinking some kind of pinstripe down the back, and curving up the hockey stick.

amish_geek
10th December 2007, 12:06 PM
Ever since moving into my house in October, I've been making use of my new garage. And what started as an innocent project to detail my engine bay turned into a massive engine overhaul.

I haven't been photo documenting my work at all, but here are some pictures of how my SPG sits currently.


INTERIOR: Status - Gutted

I wanted to remove the padding under the carpets, so I pulled the seats out, and removed the carpets. Then I spotted rust forming in the passenger footwell. While the interior is removed, I'm going to be replacing my cracked dash with the mint dash I picked up at SOC. I'm also going to replace the sagging headliner, and I'm teetering on the idea of getting a cage/rollbar welded in place.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2087/2096141100_d5a12011ed.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2148/2096142058_12abc7f739.jpg


ENGINE BAY: Status - In peices

I originally was just going to remove a few pieces and clean/paint/detail certain components. Then I removed some more pieces, and this has turned into a full-blown engine freshening. I'm sending several parts off to get powdercoated (intake manifold, valve cover etc). I had to replace the radiator, and decided to get a new intercooler. Then the group buy for the headers came about, and now I'm getting a new turbo too (IronJoes old Turbo setup).

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2301/2095368433_f3e11fc200.jpg

I have a spare valvecover sitting on it currently to help protect the valvetrain. My cover is getting sandblasted/powdercoated.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2375/2096143104_188bb6e1fd.jpg

Looking through where the radiator was:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2069/2096143338_0b1cb7f9ff.jpg

I need to get in there with some simplegreen & degreaser to clean out the gunk:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/2096143580_56242e0b57.jpg

amish_geek
10th December 2007, 12:06 PM
I'm probably going to replace the Starter, Waterpump, & Alternator, just to bring everything up to par. Either that, or I'm going to clean the crap out of them, I want my engine bay to look nice when I'm done.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2287/2095369929_85c1537a08.jpg



The new parts:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2265/2095370163_9b339e4de3.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2140/2096144612_e37c2ff502.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2118/2096144872_6a4638c482.jpg


Here is the fuel rail I bent trying to remove it:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2188/2096145554_b0ea32f5b8.jpg






Now, I'm going to either buy or borrow an engine hoist and remove the Engine & Transmission from the car. This would make assembling the new header/turbo setup a lot easier, as well as installing my new Saabrally Steel Diff cover. When I remove it, I'll most likely clean & repaint the engine block and clean up the head. I'm still torn as to whether I want to disassemble the head and replace gaskets/seals. If I can source a 2.1L head before this is all said and done, then I'll do it.


What do you folks think? Any recommendations on other things I should do while I'm already this far into it?

While I love my garage, I wish it was heated. Working on the car when it's 20 degrees kinda sucks. Time to get a propane heater.

VikingSpirit
10th December 2007, 11:19 PM
Hehe! Thats how its gets ya!:lol: I just wanted to do a timing chain swap on my 99, and ended up stripping and painting the engine bay, welding up rust, painting and installing a new engine from an 8v turbo and adding the fuel injection to what was previously a carbed car! It all got a bit out of hand!

Good luck with it,that passenger footwell rust looks pretty nasty, hopefully its just surface right? Keep posting pics!:cheesy:

Matthew
12th December 2007, 10:35 AM
It does happen! Head gasket repair turned into full blown engine bay resto and the car's still in bits.

Grit blast and paint any bare ally parts. Zinc and yellow or clear passivate any originally zinc'd parts. Respray engine bay. Renew wiring. Job done :D

amish_geek
12th December 2007, 03:34 PM
It does happen! Head gasket repair turned into full blown engine bay resto and the car's still in bits.

Grit blast and paint any bare ally parts. Zinc and yellow or clear passivate any originally zinc'd parts. Respray engine bay. Renew wiring. Job done :D

Damn you and your resore thread. :lol: I read through your thread and thought to myself "I could do that!"

Now here I am. :x :evil: :nono;


But it will sure look nice when it's done! :lol:

TheRedBaron
12th December 2007, 04:24 PM
I'd try and take care of as much rust as possible, and take a look at the steering rack.

Looks fun!

Matthew
12th December 2007, 06:16 PM
Damn you and your resore thread. :lol: I read through your thread and thought to myself "I could do that!"
It's not difficult work, just tedious and time consuming (and sometimes expensive). I took ages to work out the right way to do a lot of that stuff.

It's better if you set out to do an engine bay refurb rather than ending up doing that after starting a different job.

EvanD
13th December 2007, 02:20 AM
Nice Job man once i have a garage im hoping to do some of the same stuff.

mmustillo
16th December 2007, 12:06 AM
(I'm the hunchback of MN working on the evaporator. You can see the parts car under the buick car cover behind me)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/134/331923506_236d5e2339.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/331929412_8c087d01b0.jpg

Here you can see both mine and Greg's cars. Palmer was doing his premo buff and wax job on Greg's SPG in the garage.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/331931213_61ef17732b.jpg

The front bumper came off to remove the A/C condensor. In a couple months, a nice BIG 23x18x3 Intercooler will be mounted right between the headlights all stealthy :)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/331932686_c5c6aa631c.jpg


After everything was all said and done, JK did a mod to my APC (Automated Performance Control) box, turning up 2 of the potentiometers. I'm now getting a signifigant amount of more boost :biggthump And with the K&N, the "Whooosh" of the turbo spool is VERY LOUD

Now I can't wait to install my new TurboXS RFL BOV that I picked up on Friday. Unfortunately we didn't have enough time to work on it on saturday.

Anyways, 4 Saab nuts + working on 2 Saabs for most of the afternoon + Beer = one hell of a saturday!

Hey,

Im just wondering, what kind of an air filter is it? model?

And what is the difference between the normal air filter and this one?

thanks!!

Regin
16th December 2007, 04:35 PM
Here is a used, ****ty, Champion plug that I took out of the SPG, next to the new NGK BCP7ES plug, properly gapped.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1128/687659669_0eca71b145.jpg


It runs a LOT better now, and pulls hard again and boost solidly again. And now the full exhaust sounds even better. Now for a 3" downpipe and a 3" magnaflow muffler.[/QUOTE]


Nice hood :p

However next time you are going to change the sparkplugs - do choose the NGK BCP7EWX (platinum) the engine run so mutch better in all the register.

amish_geek
17th December 2007, 07:01 PM
Hey,

Im just wondering, what kind of an air filter is it? model?

And what is the difference between the normal air filter and this one?

thanks!!

It's just a K&N Cone filter, I don't remember the ID for it, It's just hose-clamped onto the AMM.

I bought it off of www.summitracing.com it was ~$40.


The main difference is sound, and slight performance. It's a lifetime filter that just has to be oiled periodically. And being a better design than the restrictive stock airbox, lets the engine suck in air easier. But if you were to poke a ton of holes into the stock airbox, you'd get about the same performance then out of the stock airfilter.


But with the cone filter, you can really hear the turbo scream like a banshee when boosting.. And you can hear the BPV dumping air when letting off boost.

BcharmR
7th May 2008, 07:06 PM
I have the 16" Viggen replicas on Towanda3 (a black classic convertible with tan top). I love them, but Los Angeles tears up a rim. I am trying to find the vendor from whom I bought them three years ago. Can anyone help? Amish, I did write to the ebay guys you bought from explaining my dilemma and they returned to me a simple "nope" and were no help at all. I am feeling a bit hopeless about my seemingly unwise purchase of these rims because nothing but this thread is coming up on google searches. Seems like if they were available, someone would be advertising them. They really have held up well for me.

Help? Towanda3 needs to know that she can survive here in L.A. and not rue the day she got these rims! Also, my spare tire doesn't fit my car since I did the conversion so I am also looking for a donut to pack in the trunk that will save me in a crisis. AAA was dumbfounded last time they tried to rescue me.