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: Navigation in Saab 9-7x


mtmt88
19-08-05, 02:21 AM
I'm very, very interested in purchasing the 9-7x, however, there's one concern. I'm on the road doing sales calls a lot and I rely heavily on the navigation system in my current vehicle. One thing that got me hesitating about purchasing the 9-7x is that it doesn't have navigation as an option.
However, the GMC Envoy offers it and so, I wonder if I can take the 9-7x to a GMC dealer to have one installed aftermarket. And if doing so would I retain all functions of OnStar and XM radio.
Please help!!

Brewman013
19-08-05, 08:43 AM
I'm very, very interested in purchasing the 9-7x, however, there's one concern. I'm on the road doing sales calls a lot and I rely heavily on the navigation system in my current vehicle. One thing that got me hesitating about purchasing the 9-7x is that it doesn't have navigation as an option.
However, the GMC Envoy offers it and so, I wonder if I can take the 9-7x to a GMC dealer to have one installed aftermarket. And if doing so would I retain all functions of OnStar and XM radio.
Please help!!


As I understand, Navigation will be an option on the 9.7X on the 2006 later in the model year. I wish I could tell you when but they haven't told us yet. If you can wait I would say the 9.7X will definitely be worth it.

Architosh
25-08-05, 11:44 AM
Why don't you consider a 9-5 Aero Wagon instead, it comes with Navigation, I believe or it's an option?
http://www.saabusa.com/images/lvl2_preowned_main_find.jpg

squishmann
25-08-05, 09:54 PM
The available navigation system will probably suck. I only say that b/c I sell Acuras and every navi system i compare to theirs seems like it's a decade behind.

Just buy an '05 for the cheapy charlie price and have navi installed by Tweeter or some other store that knows what they're doing.

I recommend this system: (click the pic to follow the link)
http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2005/130/h130AViCD1-wideFR_.jpeg (http://http://www.crutchfield.com/S-ZIt7pUohe5t/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=182350&I=130AVICD1)

It's a double din system so it will look factory and you can also add XM/ Sirius. Get XM b/c w/ it you can use the traffic link. XM downloads traffic reports into the nav system and gives you the control to re-route yourself around, construction, slow moving traffic, and other cautions like flooding and accidents since the info is updated every 2 minutes. plus you can add a rear back up camera, connect an iPod, and add CD/DVD Changer. Oh yeah, it's only $1500

There are other systems out there that I like such as Eclipse's which features a 30gig hard drive for music storage and memory stick but it doesn't feature satellite radio and Navtraffic. plus it's a lot more.



Details:
CD/navigation receiver with built-in amplifier (22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels) fits double-sized dash openings motorized 6.5" touchscreen TFT active-matrix LCD monitor with adjustable display angle plays CDs, CD-R/RWs, and MP3/WMA discs GPS navigation (includes GPS antenna and two map DVDs) 11 million points of interest Roadside Assistance display one year of free Roadside Assistance Service separate CD and DVD-ROM slots displays vehicle performance specifications 64MB internal memory 3-band parametric EQ XM and SIRIUS Satellite Radio-ready (subscription also required) XM's NavTraffic premium service available for an extra $3.99 per month (NavTraffic not available with a SIRIUS subscription) DVD/CD changer control compatible with Pioneer's iPod interface adapter audio/video input rear camera input front, rear, and subwoofer preamp outputs tri-zone capable Supertuner IIID AM/FM tuner 18 FM/6 AM presets DVD signal-to-noise ratio: 97 dB CD signal-to-noise ratio: 96 dB FM sensitivity: 8 dBf warranty: 1 year

CosmicSaab
26-08-05, 08:38 AM
The problem you will have if you go aftermarket is that the controls on the steering wheel will no longer function. Also, the head unit is used to control some of the functions of the car, even the door chime, so those would be inaccessable as well. OnStar would no longer function as well.

A navigation system from one of the other GM vehicles would probably work no problems. It might even just be a swap of the head unit, though I don't know if the navigation system shares the GPS signal with OnStar or has it's own, in which case another antenna would need to be installed. Otherwise, the electrical systems are the same between the GMT360s.

CosmicSaab
26-08-05, 08:40 AM
The available navigation system will probably suck. I only say that b/c I sell Acuras and every navi system i compare to theirs seems like it's a decade behind.

Just buy an '05 for the cheapy charlie price and have navi installed by Tweeter or some other store that knows what they're doing.

I recommend this system: (click the pic to follow the link)
http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2005/130/h130AViCD1-wideFR_.jpeg (http://http://www.crutchfield.com/S-ZIt7pUohe5t/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=182350&I=130AVICD1)

It's a double din system so it will look factory and you can also add XM/ Sirius. Get XM b/c w/ it you can use the traffic link. XM downloads traffic reports into the nav system and gives you the control to re-route yourself around, construction, slow moving traffic, and other cautions like flooding and accidents since the info is updated every 2 minutes. plus you can add a rear back up camera, connect an iPod, and add CD/DVD Changer. Oh yeah, it's only $1500

There are other systems out there that I like such as Eclipse's which features a 30gig hard drive for music storage and memory stick but it doesn't feature satellite radio and Navtraffic. plus it's a lot more.



Details:
CD/navigation receiver with built-in amplifier (22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels) fits double-sized dash openings motorized 6.5" touchscreen TFT active-matrix LCD monitor with adjustable display angle plays CDs, CD-R/RWs, and MP3/WMA discs GPS navigation (includes GPS antenna and two map DVDs) 11 million points of interest Roadside Assistance display one year of free Roadside Assistance Service separate CD and DVD-ROM slots displays vehicle performance specifications 64MB internal memory 3-band parametric EQ XM and SIRIUS Satellite Radio-ready (subscription also required) XM's NavTraffic premium service available for an extra $3.99 per month (NavTraffic not available with a SIRIUS subscription) DVD/CD changer control compatible with Pioneer's iPod interface adapter audio/video input rear camera input front, rear, and subwoofer preamp outputs tri-zone capable Supertuner IIID AM/FM tuner 18 FM/6 AM presets DVD signal-to-noise ratio: 97 dB CD signal-to-noise ratio: 96 dB FM sensitivity: 8 dBf warranty: 1 year


That wouldn't fit. The Bose sound system would require several adapters, but the opening itself isn't big enough. The 9-7x is a GM size/ 1.5 DIN opening, not a double DIN.

squishmann
26-08-05, 10:16 AM
opps. just take it to a professional shop and hack it in

grimley
28-08-05, 09:35 PM
That wouldn't fit. The Bose sound system would require several adapters, but the opening itself isn't big enough. The 9-7x is a GM size/ 1.5 DIN opening, not a double DIN.

Man, that really sucks! I almost drove a 97-x home from the dealer today but wanted to look at nav systems first. Magnolia Hi-fi here in Seattle told me they weren't sure if they could fit a nav system in because they had never seen the car before. Now I read this post. I want the car bad, buy can't live without nav and I don't want one of the systems that sticks on top the dash! The deal runs out this weekend!
Does anyone know where I can get a GM nav system? Is it any good?
Has anyone successfully managed to hack in a 3rd party nav system into their 97-x?
Thanks,
grimley

mike saunders
28-08-05, 10:45 PM
There are several standalone systems that are as good or better than stock, can be switched from car to car, or can be stowed for security.

At the SEMA show in Atlantic City this spring, I got a demo of one of the best nav systems I've seen. It's from Lowrance, the folks who make marine nav systems and GPS units. It's the IWay 500C....

doubles as an MP3 player...works on a boat, car, little red wagon, broomstick....

http://www.lowrance.com/Automotive/Products/iWAY500C.asp

And it's only $700.

Dracke
29-08-05, 02:30 AM
Contact delphi

Navigationssystem SAAB 9-7x (http://delphi.com/pdf/ppd/audio/au_tnr.pdf)

Dracke

dlflyboy
29-08-05, 05:14 AM
I'm very, very interested in purchasing the 9-7x, however, there's one concern. I'm on the road doing sales calls a lot and I rely heavily on the navigation system in my current vehicle. One thing that got me hesitating about purchasing the 9-7x is that it doesn't have navigation as an option.
However, the GMC Envoy offers it and so, I wonder if I can take the 9-7x to a GMC dealer to have one installed aftermarket. And if doing so would I retain all functions of OnStar and XM radio.
Please help!!

Why can't the dealer just install the navi that is in the Envoy and Buick Rainer? They are the same sizes and use the same bose sound systems. :)

grimley
30-08-05, 02:35 PM
Why can't the dealer just install the navi that is in the Envoy and Buick Rainer? They are the same sizes and use the same bose sound systems. :)

I have called 3 GM/GMC dealers now and they have all said flatly that they can't or won't do it. They told me to call Saab who told me to call Magnolia HiFi who told me to call the GM dealer!!!! WTF!
Funnily enough, Saab also called Car Toys, who said "no problem we can put a kenwood system in". But I wouldn't trust those cowboys to do anything right.

CosmicSaab
30-08-05, 08:29 PM
My suspicion is that the nav system would drop right in, only the GPS antenna might need to be run and installed. Also might need to be coded to the car, which the dealer could do. Otherwise, the audio and other systems are exactly the same. The GMC Envoy unit will fit.

CleveSaab
30-08-05, 10:24 PM
Hell I think I'd trust Car Toys over the dealer! hahaha
:cheesy:

squishmann
30-08-05, 10:27 PM
Just get this system or something comparable.


http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2005/130/h130avicn2-f_2.jpeg

grimley
01-09-05, 03:27 AM
I got the Pioneer AVIC-D1 installed at Car Toys ... and it looks and works GREAT!!!

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_3442/218219118AVIC-D1_big.jpg

I'll take pics soon and post them here. I also got the XM radio kit with XM Nav Traffic, a rear camera, ipod dock, custom molding and steering remote ... yes all the steering wheel controls work!! Also, OnStar still works, although door and seatbelt chimes do not (I consider that a bonus!).

The lights on the AVIC-D1 are green and blend in brilliantly with the Saab dash. I've never used navigation before so have nothing to base it on but I think it is fantastic. The different views are very cool and there are very clear voice prompts. The iPod controls are basic but functional, but what really impressed me was the XM radio. I was already impressed with the XM radio on the stock 97-x unit, but this blows it out of the water as you can see a list with logos and icons and group them via genre etc.

The rear view camera screen got a lot of oohs and aahhs from my passengers as I was cruising through downtown Seattle tonight!

Oh yeah ... this is great .... there is a wood-grain screen background that blends in with the 97-x wood panels!!!! :D

-grimley

mtmt88
03-09-05, 02:09 PM
I'll take pics soon and post them here. I also got the XM radio kit with XM Nav Traffic, a rear camera, ipod dock, custom molding and steering remote ... yes all the steering wheel controls work!! Also, OnStar still works, although door and seatbelt chimes do not (I consider that a bonus!).


hey this is really cool!!!
in an earlier post you said you "almost drove a 9-7x home" - so now I assume you bought it!
so i see you're able to retain and utilize the one yr free XM subscription?
please post some pics (especially the wood grain surface), and please do tell how much the total investment is...!!
thanks!!

hill34top
04-09-05, 11:43 AM
Grimley nice set-up. I would love to see the pics. Do you have the rear seat DVD and if so do you still get audio through the speakers?

grimley
06-09-05, 12:20 AM
Grimley nice set-up. I would love to see the pics. Do you have the rear seat DVD and if so do you still get audio through the speakers?

Just got back from a road trip along the Oregon coast (put on near 1k miles this weekend) so I haven't had time to take those photos ... and the car is filthy now!!
I picked up the 97-x last Tuesday (v6, silver, sunroof - no dvd). I thought the car only comes with 2 months free XM??? Anyway, I got a new subscription.
The car is well broken in now and I'm very impressed. My previous car was a 2001 BMW 325Ci, so this is a big change. I was surpised at how much power the Saab has. With a full load we were blowing past people today on steep inclines. Acceleration is great, handling is great, ride is great ... and everyone loved the cabin.

The nav saved a lot of hassle on this trip and easily found every destination. However ... there were 3 very dubious decisions it made which I foolishly abeyed. One example ... heading out of Portland it told me to exit off the freeway even though it was clearly signposted to stay on the freeway to get to the I5 (Seattle). Once I exited it brought me through an industrial park for several miles before getting me back on route!
There are too many cool features of this unit to list now though. I'll elaborate later!
-grimley

grimley
27-09-05, 01:44 AM
OK .... finally ....

From tha back:

http://www.theerrorist.com/MyImages/97x/IMG_2517.JPG

Navigation destination:

http://www.theerrorist.com/MyImages/97x/IMG_2523.JPG

Rear-view camera:
http://www.theerrorist.com/MyImages/97x/IMG_2526.JPG
http://www.theerrorist.com/MyImages/97x/IMG_2537.JPG

grimley
27-09-05, 01:45 AM
Sources:
http://www.theerrorist.com/MyImages/97x/IMG_2531.JPG

Open tray, revealing CD and DVD slots:
http://www.theerrorist.com/MyImages/97x/IMG_2533.JPG


Wood trim screen background. If this was taken during the day you would see that the image is a perfect match for the 97x wood trim:
http://www.theerrorist.com/MyImages/97x/IMG_2534.JPG

XM Radio (BBC):

http://www.theerrorist.com/MyImages/97x/IMG_2536.JPG

grimley
27-09-05, 01:48 AM
OK, I shrunk the images a little.
Here is the camera:

http://www.theerrorist.com/MyImages/97x/camera.JPG

WsaaaBi
27-09-05, 02:27 AM
Definitely looking good! I only need one for my 01 9-5 Aero. How much would a Navi system set me back?

CptTripps
19-09-06, 01:10 PM
Sorry to drag an old thread out of the dirt...

One year later, do you still like the nav system?

wallabyguy
19-09-06, 07:08 PM
2007 9-7X not only offers Nav but a turn by turn system integrated in the Onstar.