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: Love / Hate relationship


valbowski1980
20-05-04, 11:37 PM
Here goes:

What do you love about your Saab and what do you hate about it.

Love:
-Good on fuel
-Acceptable power w/o turbo
-Enough room to move me or whoever without ordering a van
-Looks different (not Accord or Camry)
-Great styling (C900, 9000 and the 9-5)
-Comfort for road trips
-Great interior layout (buttons and such)

Hate:
-Breaks down more than Accord of Camry
-Roof and pillar liner (Dumb idea IMO, should have been made without the fuzzy stuff)
-Creaky body structure
-Hard to find parts for it and when you do they cost a lot
-Not one of the best manuals I've ever driven (mine has to be shifted slow)
-I go broke when something breaks

nutcase
21-05-04, 03:18 AM
Love:
-Enough room to move me or whoever without ordering a van
-Looks different (not Saxo or Corsa)
-Great styling (99)
-Great interior layout (buttons and such)
-Rare
-MINE!

Hate:
-Bad on fuel
-Roof and pillar liner (Dumb idea IMO, should have been made with better glue)
-Hard to find parts for it
-I can't drive it yet!!!

:)

Stumpage
21-05-04, 04:20 AM
Love:
-Fast
-Most comfy car seats I've ever sat in
-Interior trim
-The way it eats up motorways and leaves me feeling like I've just driven round the block
-Fine stereo
-Huge boot (Me and my girlfriend do a lot of diving so packing 2 sets of kit and 4 Air cylinders in the boot is a big selling point)
-Nice solid build quality

Hate:
-Trying to get the power down when the road is remotely damp
-Doesn’t have auto wipers (my old Peugeot did and I got so used to it)
-Putting it in reverse to get the key out
-Night Panel (I know some of you like it but sod that and fit auto wipers as standard instead)
-The fact that I have been told that in order to change a dashboard bulb I have to take the whole dashboard out, or pay a dealer for 3 hours labour (WHAT PRAT DESIGNED THAT!!!)

Stefano
21-05-04, 03:15 PM
Love:
-Spacious
-Turbo
-Leather
-Heated seats
-Aircraft dash and instruments
-Safe
-Good handling
-Styling, although a blue CS with clear corners would be better... :roll:
-The online community
-Cheap parts in every junkyard (in Italy, at least)
-MINE!!!!

Hate:
-Poor mileage
-LPG conversion kit takes some power and grunt, and sometimes gives problems.
-Heavy taxes (in Italy they are based on the power) and insurance (ditto)
-White isn't my favourite color
-Squeacky and rattling
-A bit more noisy at highway speed than I would like.

Crevalle
21-05-04, 04:05 PM
Like:

-Classy and unique
-Smooth ride for a stiff suspension
-Silky smooth shifting (manual)
-Lots of space in trunk
-Good fuel mileage (25+mpg)
-Great online forum/resources
-Affordable parts for a luxury car

Dislike:

-Slow off the line
-Getting key out
-Headlight wipers (why?)
-No installed elbow rest between seats

Tomoose
21-05-04, 04:14 PM
like
Speed with the turbo
looks, unique
interior comfortable and well designed
body wont rust... ever
headlights/foglights
tons of room for all of my stuff

dislike
creaks
headliner
dashboard

nutcase
21-05-04, 07:12 PM
-Good fuel mileage (25+mpg)

You see, that to me is scarily low. I get upset when I don't get 40 to the gallon :)

Mattlach
21-05-04, 07:25 PM
Love:

- Swedish pride!
- Fuel Economy
- Looks great, but isnt too flashy
- Faster than my old car
- Handles better than my old car
- All the cool little electric gimmicks.


Dislike (Hate is a strong word)

- Expensive parts
- Body doesnt seem stiff enough
- Understeers heavily
- Even my Aero just doesn't have enough power for my liking.

Mattlach
21-05-04, 07:31 PM
Love:
Hate:
-Doesn’t have auto wipers (my old Peugeot did and I got so used to it)


Hmm I'm fairly certain my 95 Aero has those...

Love:
Hate:
-Putting it in reverse to get the key out


Aww.. Come on. Thats charming :P

Love:
Hate:
-Night Panel (I know some of you like it but sod that and fit auto wipers as standard instead)


Well... You don't have to push the night panel button now do you :P

Love:
Hate:
-The fact that I have been told that in order to change a dashboard bulb I have to take the whole dashboard out, or pay a dealer for 3 hours labour (WHAT PRAT DESIGNED THAT!!!)

This can't be right.

I have heard of people changing their own Das lightbulbs in other threads.

Who told you that?

--Matt

900t
21-05-04, 10:12 PM
Love:
Everything

Hate:
New ones cost mucho dinero

DaCuBaN
21-05-04, 10:52 PM
Likes:
Headroom
Bootspace
Quality

Dislikes:
Having to remember to take it out of reverse
Bloody chime!
'air-brakes' over speedbumps
the refusal of the headlight wipers to ever align
the tendency of the rear wash hose to clog


And not quite on topic, but one I'm sure will hit a note with some others:

BLEEDING GRITTERS![/i]

alan forsyth
22-05-04, 03:27 AM
you still got the gritters out up there? :cheesy: :cheesy:i'm heading for peterhead in a few weeks for a wedding hope i don't get stuck :cheesy:

Jezzadee
22-05-04, 01:18 PM
-Headlight wipers (why?)


I found them really useful one night in a blizzard in Norway. The lights seemed to be getting dimmer, and I suspected electrical problems, before I realised they were getting covered in snow. I was also grateful for the extra large washer fluid container on a C900, as I had to use it every 5 minutes to keep the lights clear.

CosmicSaab
22-05-04, 01:30 PM
Love:
Looks great!
Drives wonderful
Nice, smooth, power
Reliable
Great interior layout
Great interior design
Love the interior lighting (green is good)

Hate:
The rattles
The rattles
The rattles
The 2 ohm door speakers
The rattles
Shameful fuel economy; the SID shows an average of about 16.1 miles per U.S. gallon (might have a little to do with my driving style though :oops: )

valbowski1980
22-05-04, 02:19 PM
-Headlight wipers (why?)


I found them really useful one night in a blizzard in Norway. The lights seemed to be getting dimmer, and I suspected electrical problems, before I realised they were getting covered in snow. I was also grateful for the extra large washer fluid container on a C900, as I had to use it every 5 minutes to keep the lights clear.

In heavy and wet snow the wipers are very useful.

Mattlach
22-05-04, 03:16 PM
In heavy and wet snow the wipers are very useful.

Any idea how they compare to the high pressure sprayers more and more cars are transitioning to?

CosmicSaab
22-05-04, 03:50 PM
In heavy and wet snow the wipers are very useful.

Any idea how they compare to the high pressure sprayers more and more cars are transitioning to?

The high pressure spray on my SS works well, especially when combined with deicing washer fluid.

Vector-SS
22-05-04, 06:55 PM
E715,

Have you tried pin pointing your rattles and fixing them? I have tried to pinpoint some, but failed, and yes it is very very very annoying

Rob Hill
22-05-04, 07:05 PM
Love (on my '92 T16S)

It's a Saab
Timewarp Styling
Wrap-around windscreen
Handling
Mid-range punch
Massive boot
Saabcentral!

Hate

Over-assisted steering
Oil leaks (despite £££ attempts to resolve)
Potentially fragile gearbox
Short rear seat belts (can't get baby seat in back!)

Rob

Stumpage
23-05-04, 06:56 AM
Love:
Hate:
-The fact that I have been told that in order to change a dashboard bulb I have to take the whole dashboard out, or pay a dealer for 3 hours labour (WHAT PRAT DESIGNED THAT!!!)

This can't be right.

I have heard of people changing their own Das lightbulbs in other threads.

Who told you that?

--Matt

Well show me where coz all the answers I've had from this site say this. Please it's bugging me :cry:

Slaab4life
23-05-04, 08:02 AM
I'll start with my '86 900 8v, because that car led to the purchase of the '97 900S.
The 1986:
Like:
-Body style, enjoy the look of the tear drop shape, high angled windscreen, low angled rear.
-Ease of working on the engine, if I need to I can climb in there so much space, 6th and 7th passenger seating in there?
-The great wealth of knowledge and experience the C900ers exibit in the SaabCentral C900 forum. Never had a problem unsolved for more than 2 hrs.
-The car was free! Can't complain about a car that cost nothing in the first place!
-Great handling, better than most I've driven.
-Unique, was asked numerous times what it was.
-Durable
Dislike:
-The color, not a particular fan of the tan 'dolomiter sand.' No one should be put through the torture of a fleshy colored car. :nono; :nono; Then again I keep seeing an exact copy of my car on the roads, owner lives down the street, who woulda thunk it.
-fluid leaks, particularly the logic of it, one day one thing is visibly dripping, next day its not, but something else is. Seemed a conspiracy between the power steering and brakes was going on to drive me utterly insane. May have to consider that part of my driveway my very own Super Fund site (http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/)
-Gremlins 'assisting' me, guess they caught on to me liking to fix small problems, so they started making random problems that started getting on my nerves.
-Hood and rear hatch emblem fade, just a silver disk now.
-Rough on bumps
-Thermo fan switch, on both the '86 900 and another short lived Saab C900S that was in the family, power to switch to turn on rad fans failed, resulting in the '86 having a transplanted engine :evil: and additional wire being run to the switch.
Now the 1997:
Like:
-More power than the '86, went from 118 hp to 150 hp overnight with my purchase :cheesy: .
-Semi-unique
-Black Panel, comes in handy at night.
-Headlight Wipers, in the winter this is great, was finding myself having to clean the lights off far too often before this car.
-No car fluid leaks
-The NG900 forum, good help
-Leather
-Everyone I encounter loves it! Though most of my friends should, they've never been big on any mainstream cr@p in the first place.
-Heated seats
Dislike:
-D@mn acceleration wobble!, happens at varying speeds at varying times. Its driving me mad.
-Lack of cupholder, and places to put them.
-Automatic slush box! Want to put the '86 back on the road just to drive the standard!
-Lack of space in the engine bay, tearing up my knuckles left and right!
-Creaking and moaning of the body, gets pretty annoying in the winter.
-The anxietywhen the bing-bong happens and the lights in the dash illuminate and I think my cars about to explode, but Noooooooo........my washer fluid is low :oops:.

85 900s
24-05-04, 10:52 PM
Likes (c900):
-Styling
-Hands-down most comfortable seats
-Great trip/highway car
-Curved windshield
-Seating position. In other cars, particularly Hondas, it feels like my head is lined up with the top edge of the windshield. In the Saab, I feel like I sit back farther
-Great passing power (turbo)
-Unique
-Classy (I would like to think)
-Cheap to buy old ones
-Build quality. No rattles or squeaks

Dislikes
-gutless w/o turbo
-transmission is inherently weak and notchy
-engines are nearly indesttructible, but that cannot be said for other major components like turbo exhaust, accessories.
-When one problem gets fixed, something else breaks.

clg31187
24-05-04, 11:23 PM
1992 9000 Turbo

Likes:
very fast but docile at lower rpms
styling
handling
size
saftey
build quality
after the first ride, everyone loves it
its a saab

Dislikes:
expensive repairs
creaks+rattles
tcs
not the best shifting tranny
the short ratio gearbox runs higher rpms on the highway
over-assisted steering/vague road feel
I won't be driving it any time soon :(