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: Love / Hate relationship


valbowski1980
20th May 2004, 11:37 PM
Here goes:

What do you love about your Saab and what do you hate about it.

Love:
-Good on fuel
-Acceptable power w/o turbo
-Enough room to move me or whoever without ordering a van
-Looks different (not Accord or Camry)
-Great styling (C900, 9000 and the 9-5)
-Comfort for road trips
-Great interior layout (buttons and such)

Hate:
-Breaks down more than Accord of Camry
-Roof and pillar liner (Dumb idea IMO, should have been made without the fuzzy stuff)
-Creaky body structure
-Hard to find parts for it and when you do they cost a lot
-Not one of the best manuals I've ever driven (mine has to be shifted slow)
-I go broke when something breaks

nutcase
21st May 2004, 03:18 AM
Love:
-Enough room to move me or whoever without ordering a van
-Looks different (not Saxo or Corsa)
-Great styling (99)
-Great interior layout (buttons and such)
-Rare
-MINE!

Hate:
-Bad on fuel
-Roof and pillar liner (Dumb idea IMO, should have been made with better glue)
-Hard to find parts for it
-I can't drive it yet!!!

:)

Stumpage
21st May 2004, 04:20 AM
Love:
-Fast
-Most comfy car seats I've ever sat in
-Interior trim
-The way it eats up motorways and leaves me feeling like I've just driven round the block
-Fine stereo
-Huge boot (Me and my girlfriend do a lot of diving so packing 2 sets of kit and 4 Air cylinders in the boot is a big selling point)
-Nice solid build quality

Hate:
-Trying to get the power down when the road is remotely damp
-Doesn’t have auto wipers (my old Peugeot did and I got so used to it)
-Putting it in reverse to get the key out
-Night Panel (I know some of you like it but sod that and fit auto wipers as standard instead)
-The fact that I have been told that in order to change a dashboard bulb I have to take the whole dashboard out, or pay a dealer for 3 hours labour (WHAT PRAT DESIGNED THAT!!!)

Stefano
21st May 2004, 03:15 PM
Love:
-Spacious
-Turbo
-Leather
-Heated seats
-Aircraft dash and instruments
-Safe
-Good handling
-Styling, although a blue CS with clear corners would be better... :roll:
-The online community
-Cheap parts in every junkyard (in Italy, at least)
-MINE!!!!

Hate:
-Poor mileage
-LPG conversion kit takes some power and grunt, and sometimes gives problems.
-Heavy taxes (in Italy they are based on the power) and insurance (ditto)
-White isn't my favourite color
-Squeacky and rattling
-A bit more noisy at highway speed than I would like.

Crevalle
21st May 2004, 04:05 PM
Like:

-Classy and unique
-Smooth ride for a stiff suspension
-Silky smooth shifting (manual)
-Lots of space in trunk
-Good fuel mileage (25+mpg)
-Great online forum/resources
-Affordable parts for a luxury car

Dislike:

-Slow off the line
-Getting key out
-Headlight wipers (why?)
-No installed elbow rest between seats

Tomoose
21st May 2004, 04:14 PM
like
Speed with the turbo
looks, unique
interior comfortable and well designed
body wont rust... ever
headlights/foglights
tons of room for all of my stuff

dislike
creaks
headliner
dashboard

nutcase
21st May 2004, 07:12 PM
-Good fuel mileage (25+mpg)

You see, that to me is scarily low. I get upset when I don't get 40 to the gallon :)

Mattlach
21st May 2004, 07:25 PM
Love:

- Swedish pride!
- Fuel Economy
- Looks great, but isnt too flashy
- Faster than my old car
- Handles better than my old car
- All the cool little electric gimmicks.


Dislike (Hate is a strong word)

- Expensive parts
- Body doesnt seem stiff enough
- Understeers heavily
- Even my Aero just doesn't have enough power for my liking.

Mattlach
21st May 2004, 07:31 PM
Love:
Hate:
-Doesn’t have auto wipers (my old Peugeot did and I got so used to it)


Hmm I'm fairly certain my 95 Aero has those...

Love:
Hate:
-Putting it in reverse to get the key out


Aww.. Come on. Thats charming :P

Love:
Hate:
-Night Panel (I know some of you like it but sod that and fit auto wipers as standard instead)


Well... You don't have to push the night panel button now do you :P

Love:
Hate:
-The fact that I have been told that in order to change a dashboard bulb I have to take the whole dashboard out, or pay a dealer for 3 hours labour (WHAT PRAT DESIGNED THAT!!!)

This can't be right.

I have heard of people changing their own Das lightbulbs in other threads.

Who told you that?

--Matt

900t
21st May 2004, 10:12 PM
Love:
Everything

Hate:
New ones cost mucho dinero

DaCuBaN
21st May 2004, 10:52 PM
Likes:
Headroom
Bootspace
Quality

Dislikes:
Having to remember to take it out of reverse
Bloody chime!
'air-brakes' over speedbumps
the refusal of the headlight wipers to ever align
the tendency of the rear wash hose to clog


And not quite on topic, but one I'm sure will hit a note with some others:

BLEEDING GRITTERS![/i]

alan forsyth
22nd May 2004, 03:27 AM
you still got the gritters out up there? :cheesy: :cheesy:i'm heading for peterhead in a few weeks for a wedding hope i don't get stuck :cheesy:

Jezzadee
22nd May 2004, 01:18 PM
-Headlight wipers (why?)


I found them really useful one night in a blizzard in Norway. The lights seemed to be getting dimmer, and I suspected electrical problems, before I realised they were getting covered in snow. I was also grateful for the extra large washer fluid container on a C900, as I had to use it every 5 minutes to keep the lights clear.

CosmicSaab
22nd May 2004, 01:30 PM
Love:
Looks great!
Drives wonderful
Nice, smooth, power
Reliable
Great interior layout
Great interior design
Love the interior lighting (green is good)

Hate:
The rattles
The rattles
The rattles
The 2 ohm door speakers
The rattles
Shameful fuel economy; the SID shows an average of about 16.1 miles per U.S. gallon (might have a little to do with my driving style though :oops: )

valbowski1980
22nd May 2004, 02:19 PM
-Headlight wipers (why?)


I found them really useful one night in a blizzard in Norway. The lights seemed to be getting dimmer, and I suspected electrical problems, before I realised they were getting covered in snow. I was also grateful for the extra large washer fluid container on a C900, as I had to use it every 5 minutes to keep the lights clear.

In heavy and wet snow the wipers are very useful.

Mattlach
22nd May 2004, 03:16 PM
In heavy and wet snow the wipers are very useful.

Any idea how they compare to the high pressure sprayers more and more cars are transitioning to?

CosmicSaab
22nd May 2004, 03:50 PM
In heavy and wet snow the wipers are very useful.

Any idea how they compare to the high pressure sprayers more and more cars are transitioning to?

The high pressure spray on my SS works well, especially when combined with deicing washer fluid.

Vector-SS
22nd May 2004, 06:55 PM
E715,

Have you tried pin pointing your rattles and fixing them? I have tried to pinpoint some, but failed, and yes it is very very very annoying

Rob Hill
22nd May 2004, 07:05 PM
Love (on my '92 T16S)

It's a Saab
Timewarp Styling
Wrap-around windscreen
Handling
Mid-range punch
Massive boot
Saabcentral!

Hate

Over-assisted steering
Oil leaks (despite £££ attempts to resolve)
Potentially fragile gearbox
Short rear seat belts (can't get baby seat in back!)

Rob

Stumpage
23rd May 2004, 06:56 AM
Love:
Hate:
-The fact that I have been told that in order to change a dashboard bulb I have to take the whole dashboard out, or pay a dealer for 3 hours labour (WHAT PRAT DESIGNED THAT!!!)

This can't be right.

I have heard of people changing their own Das lightbulbs in other threads.

Who told you that?

--Matt

Well show me where coz all the answers I've had from this site say this. Please it's bugging me :cry:

Slaab4life
23rd May 2004, 08:02 AM
I'll start with my '86 900 8v, because that car led to the purchase of the '97 900S.
The 1986:
Like:
-Body style, enjoy the look of the tear drop shape, high angled windscreen, low angled rear.
-Ease of working on the engine, if I need to I can climb in there so much space, 6th and 7th passenger seating in there?
-The great wealth of knowledge and experience the C900ers exibit in the SaabCentral C900 forum. Never had a problem unsolved for more than 2 hrs.
-The car was free! Can't complain about a car that cost nothing in the first place!
-Great handling, better than most I've driven.
-Unique, was asked numerous times what it was.
-Durable
Dislike:
-The color, not a particular fan of the tan 'dolomiter sand.' No one should be put through the torture of a fleshy colored car. :nono; :nono; Then again I keep seeing an exact copy of my car on the roads, owner lives down the street, who woulda thunk it.
-fluid leaks, particularly the logic of it, one day one thing is visibly dripping, next day its not, but something else is. Seemed a conspiracy between the power steering and brakes was going on to drive me utterly insane. May have to consider that part of my driveway my very own Super Fund site (http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/)
-Gremlins 'assisting' me, guess they caught on to me liking to fix small problems, so they started making random problems that started getting on my nerves.
-Hood and rear hatch emblem fade, just a silver disk now.
-Rough on bumps
-Thermo fan switch, on both the '86 900 and another short lived Saab C900S that was in the family, power to switch to turn on rad fans failed, resulting in the '86 having a transplanted engine :evil: and additional wire being run to the switch.
Now the 1997:
Like:
-More power than the '86, went from 118 hp to 150 hp overnight with my purchase :cheesy: .
-Semi-unique
-Black Panel, comes in handy at night.
-Headlight Wipers, in the winter this is great, was finding myself having to clean the lights off far too often before this car.
-No car fluid leaks
-The NG900 forum, good help
-Leather
-Everyone I encounter loves it! Though most of my friends should, they've never been big on any mainstream cr@p in the first place.
-Heated seats
Dislike:
-D@mn acceleration wobble!, happens at varying speeds at varying times. Its driving me mad.
-Lack of cupholder, and places to put them.
-Automatic slush box! Want to put the '86 back on the road just to drive the standard!
-Lack of space in the engine bay, tearing up my knuckles left and right!
-Creaking and moaning of the body, gets pretty annoying in the winter.
-The anxietywhen the bing-bong happens and the lights in the dash illuminate and I think my cars about to explode, but Noooooooo........my washer fluid is low :oops:.

85 900s
24th May 2004, 10:52 PM
Likes (c900):
-Styling
-Hands-down most comfortable seats
-Great trip/highway car
-Curved windshield
-Seating position. In other cars, particularly Hondas, it feels like my head is lined up with the top edge of the windshield. In the Saab, I feel like I sit back farther
-Great passing power (turbo)
-Unique
-Classy (I would like to think)
-Cheap to buy old ones
-Build quality. No rattles or squeaks

Dislikes
-gutless w/o turbo
-transmission is inherently weak and notchy
-engines are nearly indesttructible, but that cannot be said for other major components like turbo exhaust, accessories.
-When one problem gets fixed, something else breaks.

clg31187
24th May 2004, 11:23 PM
1992 9000 Turbo

Likes:
very fast but docile at lower rpms
styling
handling
size
saftey
build quality
after the first ride, everyone loves it
its a saab

Dislikes:
expensive repairs
creaks+rattles
tcs
not the best shifting tranny
the short ratio gearbox runs higher rpms on the highway
over-assisted steering/vague road feel
I won't be driving it any time soon :(

efedude77
15th September 2013, 12:21 AM
LOVE: When it fricking works right

HATE: everything

eidsvik
15th September 2013, 04:00 AM
Start with the hate part, end with love.

HATE


The new door ding :x
That even with upgraded suspension and lowering springs it still doesn't handle like I think it should.
The understeer or oversteer not quite sure which is which.
That I cannot just go to any autoparts store and buy what I need.
Always at least one thing in need of repair.
That Saab, as we knew them, is no longer.



LOVE


That with so many amazing cars being built today, my Saab continues to be wholly satisfying.
When I get a return wave from a fellow Saaber.
Taking the long way home.
That it's Swedish.
That 230hp was my starting point.
If after I fully open my sunroof I can push the button again and it completely disappears into the roof.
The swooping lines of the dash and door panels.
The heated front/rear seats and mirrors.
It's ability to overtake other vehicles on the highway. :o
The friendliness of the SaabCentral community. Don't know where I'd be without you all.
Watching my leadfooted wife drive it, from our other Saab of course.





.

05Aero21
15th September 2013, 06:12 AM
Love-

Fuel mileage
Styling in and out
Aero lowered ride height
Xenon lamp design
Green orange dash illumination
Midrange performance
Ignition location
Camry Accord Maxima owners always looking
Parts aren't too expensive

Hate-


Feel over expansion joints
Handling w/ stock suspension
Coolant bypass valve
Changing CPS and serpentine belt... Should be easier
D1S bulb flickering
Snow/ice mix caking up inside Evo wheels thus causing severe vibration through steering wheel and front suspension. No I don't have a set of 16 inch steel wheels.

wrestrepo
15th September 2013, 10:36 AM
Is this the oldest thread revival? from 2004?

SaabKen
15th September 2013, 11:01 AM
Is this the oldest thread revival? from 2004?

Seems like it. We should have rented a tent for this revival ;)

SaabKen
15th September 2013, 11:06 AM
My list, pretty short.


HATE:

Cabin ACC fan starting to make the occasional groaning/grinding sound
Too-fast turn signal clicker, and I hate the click sound itself
Control stalks feel cheap
Tailgate can't stay unlocked even when rest of doors are unlocked. Have to press unlock button (door or FOB).
Cheap feeling and looking dash plastics


LOVE:
Performance
Fuel economy
Practicality/versatility
Design
Unique, not a dime a dozen out there
It's a SAAB !!!

wrestrepo
15th September 2013, 01:07 PM
My list, pretty short.


HATE:

Cheap feeling and looking dash plastics
By 120K miles, most parts have been replaced at least once
DICs that leave you stranded
No more hatches
No more Saabs
It's a SAAB !!!


LOVE:

Performance
Fuel economy
Practicality/versatility
Design
Unique, not a dime a dozen out there
It's a SAAB !!!



^modified list for me....yes, I am lazy

SaabKen
15th September 2013, 03:12 PM
^modified list for me....yes, I am lazy

No more hatches
No more Saabs





I believe the question is "What do you love about your Saab and what do you hate about it."

wrestrepo
15th September 2013, 03:27 PM
I believe the question is "What do you love about your Saab and what do you hate about it."

Ok, let's expand the list then

HATE:

Cheap feeling and looking dash plastics
By 120K miles, most parts have been replaced at least once
DICs that leave you stranded
Not a hatch
It's a SAAB !!!
Already rebuilt the transmission at 120K, not a manual
Paddle shifter in the auto are useless and feel like they will break every time you use them
Missing pixels in SID...thanks Krammer Micro Repair (I should have not gone for the cheapest one)
Not enough rear seat room
"Brake light failure" message
Tech II required for changing normal settings that should be customizable by user.



LOVE:

Performance
Fuel economy
Practicality/versatility
Design, still current
It's a SAAB !!!
Tooooorque (whatever that is)
Seats are awesome
Still turns heads around
Rear fog light
Sport mode button, as well as Winter mode button

J-Rod
15th September 2013, 03:50 PM
Love:
-Styling
-Uncommon
-Comfort
-Sound
-Interior

Dislike:
-Often doesn't start on the first try
-its a V6
-A/C hasn't worked in three years

HATE WITH A BURNING PASSION:
-Turn signal lever. I want to just grab it and break it off and throw it out the window every time I hear that miserable popping noise it makes when I use it. :evil: Anything this crappy, loose, ill-fitting, and annoying should not be on a $40k+ car.

wrestrepo
15th September 2013, 04:06 PM
My list, pretty short.


HATE:

Tailgate can't stay unlocked even when rest of doors are unlocked. Have to press unlock button (door or FOB).



I just thought about this and I would like to share the way that it works in my MDX
You have to unlock all doors BEFORE opening the tailgate, that's despite the fact that there is a completely separate button for it. So, before you get to open it, three clicks in the FOB are required.

wrestrepo
15th September 2013, 04:09 PM
Love:

HATE WITH A BURNING PASSION:
-Turn signal lever. I want to just grab it and break it off and throw it out the window every time I hear that miserable popping noise it makes when I use it. :evil: Anything this crappy, loose, ill-fitting, and annoying should not be on a $40k+ car.

How does it compare in the hate scale with the Suburban's control? I have always dislike GM's controls more than anything else....and just for the record, I don't think that the Saab control is that influenced by GM as the 900 and 9000s also had similar controls

J-Rod
15th September 2013, 04:16 PM
How does it compare in the hate scale with the Suburban's control? I have always dislike GM's controls more than anything else....and just for the record, I don't think that the Saab control is that influenced by GM as the 900 and 9000s also had similar controls
Actually, the Suburban has a very nice, smooth, quiet, click when you engage the turn signals. It's still very tight, and doesn't jiggle or anything, and it has 165k miles wile my Saab only has 97k. Same story with the Mazda, and even the S10.

SaabKen
15th September 2013, 04:22 PM
I just thought about this and I would like to share the way that it works in my MDX
You have to unlock all doors BEFORE opening the tailgate, that's despite the fact that there is a completely separate button for it. So, before you get to open it, three clicks in the FOB are required.

And that's the thing, the door unlock button (in car, or on FOB) does not control unlocking the tailgate. To me, if you unlock ALL doors of a car, that should include the tailgate/trunk. But nope, not on the 9-3.

Even if say I unlocked the tailgate, opened it, then closed it (can still re-open if I want to), got into the car and drove it 10 feet, get out and try to re-open the tailgate, it's LOCKED AGAIN :evil: (until I press tailgate unlock on door panel or on FOB). Stoooopid as far as I'm concerned.

scantar
15th September 2013, 04:33 PM
1992 t16 convertible short list version

Love:

Styling...my favorite view of the car is from the front looking at it straight on. It even looks like a fighter jet with that tapered 'bullet nose' styling.

Hate:

Intermittent wipers with non-variable speed (even Jeep figured that one out in the 80's fer cryin out loud)


1997 9K CSE short list version

Love:

Geeaw, so plush!

Hate:

STILL didn't figure out variable speeds for the intermittents! :evil:

samurai nixon
15th September 2013, 04:44 PM
1997 900 SE 2.0T 5speed 3 door in Scarabe Green

Love:
Bought it for $200
Turbo
Black Panel
SID
Hatchback

Hate:
Cruise Control is intermittent
Light on left side of SID has dimmed after I removed it and re-installed it to fix seatbelt light.
Clear coat fading/peeling all over car (It's been a southwest car all it's life and probably wasn't taken care of and sat outside for most of it)

Seats cracking probably for the same reasons as paint

Recently sunroof drains clogged in hatch during the rainiest week I've seen in New Mexico. car is damp and smells at the moment.

Keyfob works only when you push down on a certain spot and re sync it. Takes a few moments at best to get it working.

Alfisti
15th September 2013, 09:03 PM
LOVE:
- Styling, outstanding looking wagon even in base form if you change out the awful standard wheels
- It's a wagon, not many left up here
- Creme interior option in a sea of greys
- Smooth, refined 4 banger
- EATS freeway miles
- Decent freeway fuel economy
- Very strong air con and heated seats
- Leather everything
- Hold s a lot of Home Depot crap
- Excellent steering wheel
- Goes hard from about 40KMH, excellent for freeway merging
- Safe, doors THUMP when shut, I have a toddler so this is an issue for me
- Sunroof
- Feels planted in snow and rain
- So far so good reliability wise, not needed a thing in nearly three years
- Outstanding windscreen and wipers, top notch

HATE:
- The absolute worst chassis I have had the displeasure of driving, it's a complete mess. Flexes like putty, just indescribably awful.
- Hatch locks itself when it feels like, cue homicidal tendencies
- Base seats are awful. Flat, hard to adjust, way too much forced lumber support ... just ****e on all front
- Stock wheel/tyre size and wheel gap is unacceptable
- In an effort to compensate for atrocious chassis, suspension is ROCK hard, without a doubt the absolute worst ride/handling compromise I have ever experienced
- Handles like a cow on ice skates but still manages to feel EVERY single bump in the road
- HVAC system is a sick, sick joke designed by either the utterly STUPID or the mentally ill. Indescribably bad.
- CITY fuel economy poor to very poor
- Poor back seat room
- SID tells you nothing you need to know and everything you don't need
- No lock on the centre console so passengers inevitably freak out when it closes on them (more complete and utter stupidity and beggars belief how issues like these were allowed to go on for 8 years)
- Drivers door REFUSES to stay open as one exits the car, driving both my wife and I insane
- Baby seat safety latches a right crunt to get find and use
- No manual intermittent wiper option, thanks ********s

Alfisti
15th September 2013, 10:20 PM
oh yeah, mushy brakes.

SaabKen
15th September 2013, 10:40 PM
LOVE:
- Styling, outstanding looking wagon even in base form if you change out the awful standard wheels
- It's a wagon, not many left up here
- Creme interior option in a sea of greys
- Smooth, refined 4 banger
- EATS freeway miles
- Decent freeway fuel economy
- Very strong air con and heated seats
- Leather everything
- Hold s a lot of Home Depot crap
- Excellent steering wheel
- Goes hard from about 40KMH, excellent for freeway merging
- Safe, doors THUMP when shut, I have a toddler so this is an issue for me
- Sunroof
- Feels planted in snow and rain
- So far so good reliability wise, not needed a thing in nearly three years
- Outstanding windscreen and wipers, top notch

HATE:
- The absolute worst chassis I have had the displeasure of driving, it's a complete mess. Flexes like putty, just indescribably awful.
- Hatch locks itself when it feels like, cue homicidal tendencies
- Base seats are awful. Flat, hard to adjust, way too much forced lumber support ... just ****e on all front
- Stock wheel/tyre size and wheel gap is unacceptable
- In an effort to compensate for atrocious chassis, suspension is ROCK hard, without a doubt the absolute worst ride/handling compromise I have ever experienced
- Handles like a cow on ice skates but still manages to feel EVERY single bump in the road
- HVAC system is a sick, sick joke designed by either the utterly STUPID or the mentally ill. Indescribably bad.
- CITY fuel economy poor to very poor
- Poor back seat room
- SID tells you nothing you need to know and everything you don't need
- No lock on the centre console so passengers inevitably freak out when it closes on them (more complete and utter stupidity and beggars belief how issues like these were allowed to go on for 8 years)
- Drivers door REFUSES to stay open as one exits the car, driving both my wife and I insane
- Baby seat safety latches a right crunt to get find and use
- No manual intermittent wiper option, thanks ********s

oh yeah, mushy brakes.

It never amazes me how your unfettered adoration of your SAAB can be so eloquently expressed on SC, time after time after time.

Aspen
16th September 2013, 04:24 PM
And that's the thing, the door unlock button (in car, or on FOB) does not control unlocking the tailgate. To me, if you unlock ALL doors of a car, that should include the tailgate/trunk. But nope, not on the 9-3.

Even if say I unlocked the tailgate, opened it, then closed it (can still re-open if I want to), got into the car and drove it 10 feet, get out and try to re-open the tailgate, it's LOCKED AGAIN :evil: (until I press tailgate unlock on door panel or on FOB). Stoooopid as far as I'm concerned.

Not sure if this applies to the 2006, but on my 2008 you can program the locks to unlock all including the hatch with one push of the fob and when the key is removed from the ignition. The compromise was that I had to enable auto-locking when driving. When I push either the trunk button on the door or on the fob the hatch unlaches. It took some poking around with the TechII to get this option.

Let's see for the TX:
Dislikes:
XWD is extremely unreliable and outrageously expensive to repair. It has broken 6 times so far on this car.
Fuel economy is really poor
Heavy so handles sloppy even with coilovers.
Rear brakes squeak
The cruise stalk is a sad sad thing
Subwoofer is really not an improvement versus a real spare tire
Too many rattles
rear window is always dirty due to lack of attention to aero
should have a moveable rear seat
can't turn off TPMS

Likes
lots of space
nice smooth power
detachable roof rack is great
Styling is clean and handsome
Seats are comfy and supportive
The XWD functions very very well when not broken (see above)
It didn't cost much on the used market

wrestrepo
16th September 2013, 04:34 PM
Not sure if this applies to the 2006, but on my 2008 you can program the locks to unlock all including the hatch with one push of the fob and when the key is removed from the ignition. The compromise was that I had to enable auto-locking when driving. When I push either the trunk button on the door or on the fob the hatch unlaches. It took some poking around with the TechII to get this option.



And that's part of the issue.

LWells
17th September 2013, 09:16 AM
I completely understand the complaints about the steering wheel stalks feeling very breakable (I think our 900s are more solid) but what about the organization of the controls on them? I love the cruise control on these and on my Linear, I still feel like that was the best way of managing the windshield wiper delay I've ever had (many different Saabs, Chryslers, Chevys, and a few other odds and ends).

I will say that the 2013 528 I drove on vacation had the sort of nice, solid stalks I wish this car had. On the plus side, their rain-sensing wipers were just as bad, if not actually managing to be worse, than my '08.

Aspen
17th September 2013, 09:38 AM
I love the cruise control on these and on my Linear, I still feel like that was the best way of managing the windshield wiper delay I've ever had (many different Saabs, Chryslers, Chevys, and a few other odds and ends).
.

I truly hate the cruise set up. To cancel you have to slide the little button just a little, not too much, be very very careful or it just turns off and you lose the setting. The cruise should be a separate stock low on the right, then it can be a nice solid pull to cancel and resume. The switches in my Lexus/Toyota were much nicer in feel, look and function, heck the 16 year old subaru does it better.
What's with the sharp edges on the Saab/GM gear? Saab should have outsourced the switches to anybody else.

Alfisti
17th September 2013, 10:01 AM
I find the cruise intuitive, especially the quick nudge to go higher or lower.

SaabScott
17th September 2013, 10:24 AM
First off, most of you are going to disagree with my comments, but quite frankly, I bought it for me, no one else, and I just don't care what other people think.
And that includes so called "Saab guys" too ...:roll:


2006 9-7X 5.3i

Love:
pretty much everything about it

Don't like (hate is MUCH too strong of a word IMHO):
nothing ...
I've come to the conclusion, I have 2 choices in this life; either accept that not everything is perfect and live with it or find fault in everything and complain and be miserable ...
Nothing in life is perfect ... if it were, the 9-7X would:
get better fuel mileage
have an options for 3rd row seats

Yup, that's it.
I bought a used Saab truck ... all of my other issues with it are maintenance/service related and pretty much all the fault of previous owners.

My decision? I'm going to bring it back to the condition I want it to be in and will change out the things I would like to change (replace OE stereo - which is pretty good - with NAV system and possibly upgrade the overall sound).

Otherwise, it is one of the most comfortable Saabs I have had. The seats actually rival the 9-5 Aero and it is, without a doubt, the quietest Saab I have ever driven (and this is my 7th).

SaabScott
17th September 2013, 10:26 AM
oh yeah, mushy brakes.


I would recommend having the brake fluid checked and have someone qualified have a look at the pads and discs.

Saab has always had great brakes ... when the correct parts are used. Put the wrong stuff on, and they suck!