Anyone Fancy a set of these? :cheesy:

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/brake1.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/brake2.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/brake3.jpg

They fit behind standard 17" Wheels and the kits consist of...

2pcs Forged Aluminum Alloy 6 pot Calipers
2pcs 336mm x 30mm Cured Vent (Direction) Disc Rotors
2pcs 225mm Aluminum Alloy Center Hats
2pcs Special Ductile (Cast Iron) Relocation Brackets
2pcs High Pressure Stainless Steel Brake Lines
4pcs Street Performance Brake Pads

They will retail around USD $1,800 for the kit

This is pretty cool. Too bad i dont have $1800 to blow now! The set looks nice! What company are they from?

Can't divulge that information just yet. They are of the highest quality...

Looks good.....
Give some more info please..
Do they fit all cars,or just SAABs????

There is a long application list for other makes and models as well.

$1800 for a brake upgrade on a car that already has great stopping power? I'll pass...

$1800 for a brake upgrade on a car that already has great stopping power? I'll pass...

I Second That!! At all autocrosses I have run in this car the thing I have the least trouble with is stopping.

Looks Great though, but I cant spent that kind of money for looks.

Oooh lala! Very nice, i just wished they werent so darn expensive, I paid about $700 for my brake upgrade on my GTI and it was sweet, Slotted/drilled up front, and slotted in the rear, new pads etc, but it didnt have all the stuff like calipers, lines etc.

I wish they made for the saab just upgraded rotors and pads.

We have Slotted rotors for the SS. :wink:
They are based on the viggen pattern but actually directional. I only have the Linear brakes completed but will have the others in a month or so.
http://www.genuinesaab.com/cat/9156807s.jpg
Click for more details (http://www.genuinesaab.com/detail.asp?product_id=SSbrakes)

Nick Taliaferro

Simon, I was wondering if those would clear 18" wheels (BBS CHs)

They do a kit with slightly larger 360mm x 30mm Cured Vent (Direction) Discs that are designed to fit behind all 18" wheels.

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/brake4.jpg

do you know if they have any pics of the brakes on an aero using Aero wheels?
I'd like to see the how they look. Are the calipers 4 piston or 2 piston?

thanks.

do you know if they have any pics of the brakes on an aero using Aero wheels?
I'd like to see the how they look. Are the calipers 4 piston or 2 piston?

thanks.

I'll ask. They are 6 piston :D

Awesome! keep us posted..

thanks!

Simon, wuts the offset ET of BBS on that black Aero, does it requir specer?

Anyone Fancy a set of these? :cheesy:


They fit behind standard 17" Wheels and the kits consist of...

2pcs Forged Aluminum Alloy 6 pot Calipers
2pcs 336mm x 30mm Cured Vent (Direction) Disc Rotors
2pcs 225mm Aluminum Alloy Center Hats
2pcs Special Ductile (Cast Iron) Relocation Brackets


2pcs High Pressure Stainless Steel Brake Lines
4pcs Street Performance Brake Pads

They will retail around USD $1,800 for the kit

Tried and tested .friend of mine had a set of 6 pot on his mazda 323 and i must say they can really stop at an instant

Simon, wuts the offset ET of BBS on that black Aero, does it requir specer?

That's the great thing about these brake kits compared to say AP Racing for example they fit under and standard or aftermarket 17" or 18" wheels without the need for any spacers etc., and they are better and much cheaper than AP Racing kits.

Simon, wuts the offset ET of BBS on that black Aero, does it requir specer?

They look like the same wheels I have on my Linear - BBS RK II's. Except mine are only 17" I think the ones in the picture might be 18's. If so the offset is ET 35

How about these mothers! 12 POTS! :o

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Newtoy.jpg

Not for the 9-3SS though I'm afraid...

How about these mothers! 12 POTS! :o

Seems Just a bit Excesive if you ask me :o

Im in the process of putting together a custom big brake kit on my NG900, its Porsche Boxster calipers and 9.5 Aero rotors. Kit will cost me around 700 CAD when all is said and done. Not huge like those but it will be an improvement.

Here are the technical specifications on the 9-3SS brake kits...

Brake Kit Specifications (http://www.saabs.cwc.net/brake_kit.pdf)

'A Company' being AP Racing.

Thanks Simon for the technical specs...
I know that I emailed you about getting a pic
of this big brake kit using the 17" Aero wheels.
Any luck, just wondering.

thanks.
-jason

They don't have a picture I'm afraid, sorry...

Any updates about this? When is it going to be out?

www.partsforsaabs.com should have the kits in stock by mid next week.

Simon, wuts the offset ET of BBS on that black Aero, does it requir specer?

They look like the same wheels I have on my Linear - BBS RK II's. Except mine are only 17" I think the ones in the picture might be 18's. If so the offset is ET 35

BBS RKII 18*8.5 RK501 112/5 ET32

johnken,

are these on your car? if so, have you have any problems using 5/112 wheels?

johnken,

are these on your car? if so, have you have any problems using 5/112 wheels?

Not on my car, considering it though. Don't think it would be a problem as I know people driving with 8.5*18 ET 35 with 235 wide tires. That's 5 mm wider on each side than 225 and ET32 is only 3 mm wider than ET35.

$1800 for a brake upgrade on a car that already has great stopping power? I'll pass...

I Second That!! At all autocrosses I have run in this car the thing I have the least trouble with is stopping.

Looks Great though, but I cant spent that kind of money for looks.

autocrosses are easy on brakes.
go to a big track with heavy breaking zones, and you'll quickly realize how under powered your brakes are.


those look great btw Simon!
those 6-pot 360mm's arew HUGE!!
what option would I have on the Viggen?

and i thought my 332mm Stoptechs were big! :cheesy:
http://images5.fotki.com/v73/photos/8/87136/901418/DSC00005-vi.jpg

Looks like they will be available for the 9-3SS, Classic 9-3, 9-5 & NG900 and possibly the 9000. Price will be the same for all...

$1800 for a brake upgrade on a car that already has great stopping power? I'll pass...

I Second That!! At all autocrosses I have run in this car the thing I have the least trouble with is stopping.

Looks Great though, but I cant spent that kind of money for looks.

autocrosses are easy on brakes.
go to a big track with heavy breaking zones, and you'll quickly realize how under powered your brakes are.


those look great btw Simon!
those 6-pot 360mm's arew HUGE!!
what option would I have on the Viggen?

and i thought my 332mm Stoptechs were big! :cheesy:
http://images5.fotki.com/v73/photos/8/87136/901418/DSC00005-vi.jpg


Benfica09,

I assume this picture is of your car? What kid of wheels are those? I really like them.

Benfica09,

I assume this picture is of your car? What kid of wheels are those? I really like them.


Yup. that pic is of my Audi A4 though, not the Saab.
at any rate, the wheels on the Audi are Oettinger RE's. 18x8 with F1-GSD3 tires. I had them custom done, with the anthricite centers powdercoated.

Very nice.

If only they would fit our Saabs.

Benfica09...Nice Wheel/Tire/Brake combination looks good.

As for the big brake kit, I'll be getting that after the rims and ppc. The Saab does have great brakes but I recently tried a quick stop from a high speed and the car seemed to wobble a bit, well in all truth I actually got scared. I think that if you want security in braking and plan on traveling at a high rate of speed at any point in time,a big brake kit is the only way to go.

The WP Pro brake kits are on their way to PFS now for the 9-3SS, Classic 9-3 and 9-5 both the early and later models. They will be exclusively available from PFS for Saabs in the U.K. and U.S.A markets and should be in stock in around 2-3 weeks.

BSR have already ordered 2 kits for their 9-3SS test cars, a 6 pot 17" wheel kit and 8 pot 18" wheel kit :D

Hi. do you think the 6-pot brakes for the 17's will fit the aero/vector wheels without any clearance issues?

Yes, that's the beauty of these kit's, they fit behind standard wheels which makes them excellent value for money.

thanks for the info-

how much are the 6-pot brakes for the stock 17's? Sorry if I missed the pricing on one of the threads.
Also, if you can post a pic of the brakes and if you
can get them in colors like red or yellow.

Thanks Simon..

More photos and detailed information on these brake kits is now available at the link below:

http://www.partsforsaabs.com/wp_pro.php

The various kits will be listed for sale along with pricing within the next 48 hours. At the present time the kits are only available in black.

Out of curiosity, have these kits been tested for stopping distance on the 9-3ss? I've read that some big brake kits actually raise the total stopping distance over stock (for many reasons I don't remember off the top of my head).

Thanks Paul for the links.

Are these things coated with some sort to resist rust?
I'm not sure if the pic on the aero wheels is showing
some rust stains on the bolts of the disc.

thanks.

A minimum of 30% better stopping power over standard more if you use the track pads on the track of course.

That is not rust, it is a gold/bronze protective coating on the discs.

Any ideas what the WP stands for?

A minimum of 30% better stopping power over standard more if you use the track pads on the track of course.

So how does this affect everyday driving? I would think that the brakes would be a bit more "grabby", no?

You are going to have bigger 6 pot callipers, bigger discs and Fast Road pads, so yes they are going to work better than standard.

The WP Pro Brake Kits are now listed and available for Purchase at PFS.

WP Pro Brake Kits (http://www.partsforsaabs.com/default.php?cPath=28_253_426)

Hope this question is decent enough to resurrect this thread:

What pads are available for the 17" compatible WP brake kits? Is there a ceramic option? Road option? Race option? And then of course, how much are each flavor of replacement pads....

Additionally, what affect does this have on the ESP system and/or the ABS? I'd guess a road speed sensing system would behave equally well as long as the wheel/tire combo size wasn't changed front vs. rear.

Don't know if I could make a decent decision without this information. But I have been fairly uneasy about a single piston floater on a car that is so voracious at the top end (without PPC!).

Jason

Brake pad options are listed here...

http://www.partsforsaabs.com/default.php?cPath=52_432_442

Replacement discs would be in the region of £120 ($200) each. Seal kits about £3.00 ($5.00) each.

There would be no problems with the ESP/ABS.

BSR will shortly be fitting an 8 piston caliper kit to their stage 5 9-3SS. Maptun have also fitted a WP Pro kit to a 'classic' 9-3 and have been very happy with the results.

Few more questions:

1. What's the compound make-up of the road pads? Metallic, Organic, Ceramic?

2. What kind of unsprung weight drop can I expect when changing to the aluminum hats and calipers vs. the stock iron monsters? I'd guess substantial, but I'm curious if you have a specific figure.

I can't see justifying buying a set and ditching my stock rotors with 862 miles on the clock, but when the time comes that my pads/rotors are ready to be replaced I can't see any reason to buy stock parts when these are available!

Thanks for your prompt replies!

Jason

Any ideas when a kit will be available for the rear?

Any ideas when a kit will be available for the rear?

Move your newly displaced front brakes to the rear. That should be P-L-E-N-T-Y of rear stopping power.

Any ideas when a kit will be available for the rear?

If there is enough demand they will manufacture kits for the rear.

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/weight.jpg

The Fast Road pads are Ceramic and the Track pads are Carbon Metallic.

Holy crap! If the cool looks and better stopping power weren't enough to convince me, the fact the rotors are 2kg lighter would be. I have to get a set for my cars. Anyone have 2400 Pounds (-VAT, but + shipping)? I promise I'll be your bestest friend!

Forget the ROTORS, the calipers are nearly 6kg lighter! Total weight reduction is: 7.77kg per front wheel. That is an insane amount of decrease in unsprung weight. I'd render a guess that this improvment in sheer handling ability would exceed the addition of a set of bilsteins or h&r springs alone. Then there is the benefit of added stopping power.

Plus ceramic pads = no road dust....hmmm how soon can I wear down my stock pads??? NOT SOON ENOUGH! :cheesy:

IMO, this is the best upgrade you could possibly do for your 9-3.

Jason

for those that dont want to convert, that is 17.1 pounds per wheel.

for those that dont want to convert, that is 17.1 pounds per wheel.

Thank you :D