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: Need advise to fight carmera photo ticket......


VFCPT
14th May 2004, 10:01 AM
Could someone give me some advise on how to contest photo ticket in DC?? I got a photo ticket going 11-15 mph above 35 limit zone, the photo only shows my tag but has no picture of me driving the car, could I use that as my defense since the photo does not proof that i was driving the car at the time?

Any advise would be appreciated !!!

Rhino2.3t
14th May 2004, 10:19 AM
drive a bit slower in future?

Mattlach
14th May 2004, 10:23 AM
drive a bit slower in future?

Meeh.. Driving slower than 10-15 mph above the speed limit is never an option.

I think they shoudl ticket people that drive BELOW 10-15 mph over :P


Speaking of photo tickets. I thought they were illegal in the states. Is this a new development?

DeLorean
14th May 2004, 11:03 AM
it is legal in SOME states now. you can look it up at the insurance institute for highway safety web site if it's "legal" or not. If it ever makes it to the supreme court, we won't have speed cameras in ANY state, so it's about time someone does that... if I ever get one, maybe that's what I'll do :cheesy:

Mattlach
14th May 2004, 11:14 AM
If it ever makes it to the supreme court, we won't have speed cameras in ANY state, so it's about time someone does that... if I ever get one, maybe that's what I'll do :cheesy:

Soo... how exactly does one go about getting a speeding ticket heard in the Supreme Court? :cheesy:

We should call in the ACLU in on this one! They are used to going after ridiculous cases! :P

Diggler
14th May 2004, 11:29 AM
my question is how they'd procicute it. Is the camera going to stand in for the cop? :roll:

Paco
14th May 2004, 12:05 PM
Cameras have stood in for cops here for years....

As far as beating the prosecution goes, I think you'll have to prove you weren't the driver and that someone else was, at least that's how it is here.

Mind you, I think that's against your constitution.... one of the amendments is about self incrimination... :-?

Crevalle
14th May 2004, 12:08 PM
Fight the man!

Also, get some of that liquid that you spray on your license plates. It's invisible to our eyes, but when a camera takes a picture, your license plate will appear blurry. Don't buy the really cheap stuff ($3.50), get the $10 bottle. Just do a search online.

Some require that a flash be involved (light refraction or something). I'm not an expert on the subject.

Matthew
14th May 2004, 12:49 PM
you'll have to prove you weren't the driver and that someone else was, at least that's how it is here.
In the UK the prosecution has to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that you were driving the vehicle at the time of the alleged "offence".

In such cases, the registered keeper of the vehicle has a duty to, with reasonable dilligence, establish the identity of the driver when the "offence" was commited. If they carry out that duty, yet still cannot accurately identify the driver then a Magistraite will likely find in the registered keeper's favour.

Remember - it's still innocent until proven guilty, whatever stunts Scamera/Police/CPS try to pull.

Mattlach
14th May 2004, 01:01 PM
As far as beating the prosecution goes, I think you'll have to prove you weren't the driver and that someone else was, at least that's how it is here.

What ever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"?

That sounds a little bass ackwards to me...

thumpar
14th May 2004, 01:39 PM
Send them a picture of the money.


Not really that would probly get you a picture of handcuffs in the mail.

:lol:

Dan

DeLorean
14th May 2004, 07:29 PM
my question is how they'd procicute it. Is the camera going to stand in for the cop? :roll:


Diggler, that's the whole problem why speed cameras are not legal is many states. Since there was NO officer to witness the violation, how do we KNOW it was not just "equipment malfunction"? :-? there in lies the problem with a automatic device that gives out violations.

92-Vert
14th May 2004, 08:38 PM
Report your Saab stolen (he he) :lol: :lol: :lol: sorrrrrrrrry

"Saabs Ride On' 8)

92-Vert
14th May 2004, 09:09 PM
A couple of years ago I got one of those camera tickets in the mail for running a light. Of course it did make me mad. But I paid it any way. Well the light was in the Bronx, NY and the next time I went by that light I stopped to take a look at the box that the camera was in. Wouldn't you know it, it wasn't working anymore. It wasn't working because it was full of bullet holes.:lol:

"Saabs Ride On" 8)

Cuba
15th May 2004, 12:40 AM
Put a grenade on it and run away quickly.

spence
15th May 2004, 06:21 AM
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sab aero
15th May 2004, 08:42 AM
Heres a crazy and wacky thought why not just pay it and get on with life? <shock, horror> You were speeding, got caught just put it down to experience. Surely there are better things to worry about than getting out of paying a speeding ticket?
just my $5!
sab

DeLorean
16th May 2004, 03:11 PM
Heres a crazy and wacky thought why not just pay it and get on with life? <shock, horror> You were speeding, got caught just put it down to experience. Surely there are better things to worry about than getting out of paying a speeding ticket?
just my $5!
sab

Now that's just crazy :lol:

CosmicSaab
16th May 2004, 03:21 PM
Put a grenade on it and run away quickly.

Instead of slowly?

Luv900
16th May 2004, 09:54 PM
hmm steal the camera then they take photo of you.. it have work here and cops are not happy that their box are missing at scene hehe.

i have even seen car with a camera inside stolen from the road (no cop sitting in cars and camera in back.. giant camera) hehe

if cop cant get the film then they cant give you the ticket hehe.

Castor Troy
16th May 2004, 11:31 PM
well, here's a theory. since the officer who issued you the ticket has to show up to court for the ticket to be valid, couldnt the video ticket be ruled invalid since there is no issuing officer to show up?

Diggler
17th May 2004, 12:31 PM
hmm steal the camera then they take photo of you.. it have work here and cops are not happy that their box are missing at scene hehe.

i have even seen car with a camera inside stolen from the road (no cop sitting in cars and camera in back.. giant camera) hehe

if cop cant get the film then they cant give you the ticket hehe.

yes, unless the images are transmitted digitally. In that case the system could be hacked and they could upload porn or something, LOL think of that one!!!