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: where's the wicked crash test picture??


platypus
05-05-04, 11:56 AM
last week came across a wicked head-on crash test picture. does anone remember what thread that was on????

rando67
05-05-04, 01:33 PM
I had downloaded a QuickTime (.mov) file of the 9-3 in a (test) headon collision. It was labeled 9-3.mov. There was also a .mpg version too. There was a link somewhere on here on SaabCentral for that ... don't know where it is.

Send me a pm with your e-mail requesting this and I'll send you the file(s). The .mov version is 2.4MB (bigger and clearer video) or the mpeg version 164KB (smaller video footage).

I tried zipping the file to post here but its just too big. Can only post 65kb files.

rando67
06-05-04, 11:35 PM
Okay folks ... I passed along a few copies of the video. I only have dial-up and I'm calling it quits on forwarding this one because I think I will continue to get requests. I just wanted to help out the person posting the thread and maybe a couple others.

The link is somewhere on SaabCentral. I believe its in this forum and posted within the past few months. Maybe someone will find and post the link to the files or thread on which they were posted. Because I got them here to begin with. :wink: I just don't know where its at.

kopfschuh
07-05-04, 01:55 PM
if someone will send me the video (hopefully someone who got it will have faster than dial up), I can host it and post the link here. PM me if interested.

rando67
07-05-04, 02:00 PM
I will send you a pm. :D

kopfschuh
08-05-04, 12:41 AM
Thanks rando.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kopfschuh/93/9-3hi.mov(hi res)

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kopfschuh/93/9-3.mpg(low res)

Mattlach
08-05-04, 12:48 AM
Wow Nice vid...

Anyone know what speed that was at?

stuart_mc
08-05-04, 08:51 AM
I think they do standard crash testing at 40mph :-?

GearHead
08-05-04, 10:47 AM
well the crumple zones did indeed crumple along with the door,cabin,etc


so that is a safe car nowadays? :-?

Mattlach
08-05-04, 10:57 AM
well the crumple zones did indeed crumple along with the door,cabin,etc


so that is a safe car nowadays? :-?

Allthough it looks like the roof and the doors crumpled slightly, it looks to me as if it didn't intrude into the cabin.

I'm not sure though. I am no expert on such things.

If I hadn't lost all my bookmarks recently, I'd look up the 9-3 on the NHTSA (or whatever they are called) webpage...

CosmicSaab
08-05-04, 01:20 PM
Here is the link to the IIHS's rating on the 9-3 SS
http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/0306.htm

And for comparison here is the link for the old 9-3
http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/99004.htm

And the one for the GM900
http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/95017.htm

The tests are 40 mph offset crashes.

The 9-3SS is a much, much, much safer car than any previous 900 or 9-3.

DeLorean
08-05-04, 11:47 PM
No doubt that's true. I would love to see a crashtest of the old C-900. they sure look to have a lot more beef up in front than the NG-900. wonder if that translates to a better crashtest.

fabric
10-05-04, 05:15 PM
Here is a swedish insurance companies safery ratings based on actual real-world crash info. Note, this is for sweden, so it's not directly applicable, but for comparision purposese of the relative safery of models versus each other, it's moderately usefl.

the 9-5 is the safest. the ng/9-3 is still pretty safe:

http://www.folksam.se/forskning/trafik/sakra_bilar/2003/bilListaEngelsk.htm

CosmicSaab
10-05-04, 06:11 PM
Here is a swedish insurance companies safery ratings based on actual real-world crash info. Note, this is for sweden, so it's not directly applicable, but for comparision purposese of the relative safery of models versus each other, it's moderately usefl.

the 9-5 is the safest. the ng/9-3 is still pretty safe:

http://www.folksam.se/forskning/trafik/sakra_bilar/2003/bilListaEngelsk.htm

My father works for State Farm (in the U.S.) and they also do ratings based on several real world factors.

GearHead
10-05-04, 09:31 PM
has anyone ever seen pics of a C900 crash test?

fabric
11-05-04, 02:57 PM
My father works for State Farm (in the U.S.) and they also do ratings based on several real world factors.

Well, where are they? :)

The reason I put that there is, based on the IIHS stats, the GM900 isn't that impressive. Folksam (the swedish insurance company) has it among the safest.

So, are there statistics bunk, or are these crashes into static barriers not a good duplication of the real world.

ragtopcav
11-05-04, 03:17 PM
So, are there statistics bunk, or are these crashes into static barriers not a good duplication of the real world.Only if the only thing people drove into was a static objects straight on, the results then would translate accurately. These tests are indicators of how a new design will behave, once out in the real world for a while under the control of unpradictable and dynamic things [people] things change quite a bit.

There was a fantastic survey of statistics out for Europe last year, look at all major car models, for Saab it went back as far as the C900, is was not however bodyshape/engine type specific, however the data used was occupant survivability in all incidents the C900 did very well, in fact it was the best old design in the listing, the ng900 was better still for occupant survival [the 9-3 was slightly better? perhaps the 1000+ improvements had counted for something] and for Saab the top design was the 9-5, the 9-3ss was too new for reliable data.

The 9-3SS is a much, much, much safer car than any previous 900 or 9-3. When you consider the technological leaps and bounds made it damned well should be, there is probably tailored blank panels in the 9-3ss shell, hydroformed bits, even more HSLA and improved design modelling.
Though a friend of mine described them as "they've got to be good, it's based on a redesign of a fantastic rep hack, the Vectra, the all new Vauxhall 9-3s-sectra should well be a winner" :lol: , he used to have a 99 years ago, runs a Jaguar these days.

Mattlach
11-05-04, 03:28 PM
There was a fantastic survey of statistics out for Europe last year, look at all major car models

Do you know what this test was named so I can google for it, or of a webpage it was published on?

Thanks,
Matt

ragtopcav
11-05-04, 03:33 PM
There was a fantastic survey of statistics out for Europe last year, look at all major car models

Do you know what this test was named so I can google for it, or of a webpage it was published on?

Thanks,
MattWe had a link to it on these boards, it was sadly lost in the great server crash. I have since tried to find it and failed, it was such big news it made it's way into many UK tabliods.

Jezzadee
11-05-04, 03:51 PM
The only one I remember from last year was EuroNCAP. Is this the one?

http://www.euroncap.com/content/safety_ratings/ratings.php?id1=6

DanF.
12-05-04, 01:15 AM
here's a crashed c900.
:roll:
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4468&highlight=