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Simon
3rd May 2004, 07:11 AM
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who made the effort to come to Elvington yesterday either to take part or just to spectate. It seems like on the whole everyone enjoyed themselves thouroughly. The weather was perfect and the organisation was excellent.

There was an added bonus of Gordon Lamb being on site with some very nice machinery including a Noble and several Lotus giving free passenger rides around the Elvinton circuit!

On a personal note I have to admit I was a bit nervous with this being my first trackday (and nearly missed the drivers briefing :o) , but once I has done a couple of sessions the nerves were gone and I was really enjoying myself. My 9-5 went really well with no problems except for a lack of tyre tread by the end of the day! This was the first time I had been able to drive my car close to the limit and I was pleasantly surprised how quick it was on the track, with very composed handling. I think a few other people were surprised how quick it was as well :wink: :cheesy:

Anyway, some pictures...

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington1.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington2.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington3.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington4.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington5.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington6.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington7.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington8.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington9.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington10.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington11.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington12.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington13.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington14.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington15.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington16.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington17.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington18.jpg

Simon
3rd May 2004, 07:15 AM
There was also a professional photographer on site at Elvington during the day taking pictures from around the circuit.

At some point soon, they should all be listed at

http://www.picman.co.uk/cgi-bin/content.pl?home

and prints will be available for purchase.

Paul
3rd May 2004, 07:21 AM
excellent pictures Simon 8)

tandino
3rd May 2004, 04:07 PM
Just a few words from me about the day...
First off thanks to Simon & Paulfor organising the day - i know from setting up the 1st Saabcentral rolling road day this is an achievement in itself :o :wink: ...
Secondly i have to say thanks to all the other drivers who attended for getting out of the way :lol: :lol: .
The afternoon session when i had acclimatised to the cones and was able to fully concentrate on the track itself led to an epic duel between AlanB's mega powered 9000 Aero and my 900T16S - it was the best driving moment ive had for years and must have looked fantastic to the spectators 8) 8) 8) 8) .
The video footage will somehow be hosted on Saabcentral when myself and Sam work out we are going to do with it :! :lol: ....
Seeeing my car pull away from Alan's on the back straight was something i will remember for a long time :lol: :lol: 8) along with the lift off oversteer that i was putting on for Alan and MarkP in hot pursuit :! - you can physically see the plumes of blue tyre smoke from the outside rear tyre each time i lift of the throttle and hang the tail out :cheesy:
Long live the Classic 900 - there's life in the old girls yet - sorry 9000's :cheesy:
A great day overall and great to meet some new/familiar faces 8)

Pete.

tandino
3rd May 2004, 04:12 PM
Some more piccy's of the day and Sam'McHuntsman' driving/thrashing my T16S which i have to say held up fantastically throughout the weekend after its engine/gearbox/head transplant 8)

tandino
3rd May 2004, 04:16 PM
More:-

Alanb
3rd May 2004, 04:35 PM
Seeeing my car pull away from Alan's on the back straight was something i will remember for a long time :lol: :lol: 8) along with the lift off oversteer that i was putting on for Alan and MarkP in hot pursuit :! - you can physically see the plumes of blue tyre smoke from the outside rear tyre each time i lift of the throttle and hang the tail out :cheesy:
Long live the Classic 900 - there's life in the old girls yet - sorry 9000's :cheesy:
A great day overall and great to meet some new/familiar faces 8)

Pete.

I was thinking today that it was almost as if the duel was meant to be between the 9000 Daddy and 900 Daddy. Most of today I've been chuckling to myself as thoughts of Tandino's car at absurd angles came to mind. However, I would just point out that without the Type P ballast I was carrying, I overtook Tandino along the straight earlier in the day (although Pete did have his own Type S ballast to contend with).

Alanb

David!
3rd May 2004, 05:43 PM
A short show of the day! 56k go away


http://www.saabscentral.co.uk/saab_event_04.html

You need quicktime (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/) to be able to view...

David!

ragtopcav
3rd May 2004, 06:23 PM
Just a few words from me about the day...
First off thanks to Simon & Paul for organising the day - i know from setting up the 1st Saabcentral rolling road day this is an achievement in itself :o :wink: ...
So when you organising the next P.E. day Pete :cheesy: :wink: September would nice :lol: I'll bring the Cavalier for comedy affect :cheesy:

Alanb
3rd May 2004, 06:27 PM
Loved it! Although why did I have to listen to a couple of old men chatting as if they were on a Sunday afternoon jaunt? :lol:

Alanb

clg31187
3rd May 2004, 10:58 PM
Sounds like you guys had a good time! We should see if we could get a saab track day together over in the states, limerock in CT comes to mind...

Whos black 9000 carly is that in the first pic? Its such a nice car, and I keep seeing it in photos.

Christophe

Mark P
4th May 2004, 03:03 AM
The dualling banjos was probably the best fun/most scared I've been in a long time. It was such a joy to see Pete hanging the tail out on the tight bends, especially from IMHO the best seat in the house. An awesome display of driving. Big credit also to Alan B, who hustled his extremely rapid Aero round the track like a pro. (I'll not finish that word. Make your own minds up!) :wink:

Alan, did you notice that the Mars Bar in my back pocket had melted a little? :wink: :cheesy: :lol:

greenphotos
4th May 2004, 03:22 AM
A short show of the day! 56k go away

http://www.saabscentral.co.uk/saab_event_04.html

David!

?I can't see any photos?



Mark
:cheesy:

Alanb
4th May 2004, 04:49 AM
Alan, did you notice that the Mars Bar in my back pocket had melted a little? :wink: :cheesy: :lol:

Oh, I thought it had been caused by the packed of chocolate digestives Nuts had left on the passenger seat :lol:

Alanb

PS Just drove to work this morning and I'm still with virtually no brakes :nono;

CaptRossco
4th May 2004, 06:48 AM
- you can physically see the plumes of blue tyre smoke from the outside rear tyre each time i lift of the throttle and hang the tail out :cheesy:
Long live the Classic 900 - there's life in the old girls

Pete.

Ill second that pete, when behind you in the session after lunch when hunting simons incredibly tidy 95 down I witnessed some sheer class. Was starting to practice it myself. These old gals are phenominal on a stiff setup. Lift off oversteer and late braking to transfer the weight in the slide allows for a lovely balance of steering and throttle. Its so easy. All i need now is some extra top end poke!

Id love to have gone out with just yourself and John-W and maybe the other fella in the grey 2dr and have a classic 900 battle of Elvo.

That would have been great.

tandino
4th May 2004, 08:24 AM
Agreed Ross - the Classics are very adjustable at the limit by use of the throttle which is great for countering the understeer.
It was probably not the quickest way round the circuit and i was there to have fun first and foremost but i was enjoying putting on an exuberent show of oversteer for all those that were following 8)
Your car was very quick round the circuit and full complements to some great driving by yourself - just goes to show that your 'ickle Te05 turbo/no.6 gearbox was giving my TD04/no.8 gearbox a very hard hard time due to my slow 'save the gearbox' spoolup.
Better being safe than sorry and id rather that i got the car home in one piece especially after all the graft that id put in this week - it would have been a different story on a 2 mile straight :lol: :lol:
As for your car Simon im suspecting foul play :lol: - no way that was 221bhp :wink: :cheesy:

Pete.

Nuts
4th May 2004, 08:29 AM
Great day, thanks to organisers and big thanks to Tandino for giving me a lift and letting me give his car a 'proper' portion :! :cheesy:

Only one photo that's worth posting - and it just happens to be Tandino limping back to the paddock (blue rag/bog roll in hand) after 'Turkishing' the portaloos :! :lol:

CaptRossco
4th May 2004, 09:06 AM
full complements to some great driving by yourself - just goes to show that your 'ickle Te05 turbo/no.6 gearbox was giving my TD04/no.8 gearbox a very hard hard time due to my slow 'save the gearbox' spoolup.

Pete.

Indeed, i kept mostly in third, second for the mess they'd created for us down by the pits.

Used fifth once down the back straight and peaked at 114mph, but that left me no room for braking and i thrashed the gearbox and brakes into that first chicane before the pits. Had no choice but to hold on the brakes in the turn swinging the *** out and back on the power with a blip of the clutch to raise the revs (hands too busy to change) and straighten her up. Managed not to fluff it and it held together, giving jezzadee a fright i think.

It was either that or take the cones out! There was no way i was doing that so close to the pits :oops: :wink:

Still, wonderful wonderful cars. Would have liked a ride in yours/ a 9000 to gauge the difference but i was having wayyy to much fun and afterall, its what we pay the money for! :cheesy:

Marrk
4th May 2004, 09:19 AM
I prepped the car on friday afternoon, new anti roll bar bushes and to my dismay noticed one of the cv boots had split :cry: . A quick call to Malbrad in Huddersfield and a pleading voice about heading to Elvington and will be staying in Hudderfield over the weekend managed to persuade Steve to get me in on Sat morning for a good craic and a quick boot change and to be informed that my wishbone bushes were totally knackered... :( :(
I was warned about the tyre wearing effects of Elvington and was offered spare wheels and tyres if I wanted but declined as I wanted to wear the tyres I had on down due to them being too narrow for the rims...get some use out of them at least...big mistake, as all I wore down was the side walls, as spotted by Pete, no lettering at all after 5 sessions :o :o . Plenty of wheel spin but perhaps 30psi was too low a pressure and the tyre must have just kept on folding onto its side.
My turbo was smoking before I started and I was down loads on boost and ended up with not a lot of boost and the water temp hovering on the red and a very smoking turbo at the end, but it survived to get me back over to Hudderfield and then back up north to home.
So with a sick turbo, knackered bushes and crap tyres I had a whale of a time.
I hadn't time to fit my big discs but i was really impressed with the black diamond discs and predator pads on hauling the car down from 3 figure speeds to get round that tight left hander at the end of the straight.
What I lacked in acceleration on the straight was made up with what felt to me was very very late braking to get onto the back of the cars in front.
I took my mate out with the 6 wheeler on the last session but due to the tyres cruised round the corners and gunned it on the straights and he fell asleep..... :roll:

CaptRossco
4th May 2004, 10:00 AM
Mark

Firstly i must say what a nice car you have there.
Being a loyal c900 fan i shouldnt say this, but of the 9K yours is the one i always wanted. Black CD, bridge spoiler, all the leather and wood, and the original front. It was lovely 8)

However your right it did suffer didnt it. On the first session, the first time ever on a track for me, you started behind me and i let you past as your big 9K ramping up behind me scared me somehow, :o all i could hear and smell was tyre squeel!

:lol: By the second session i was fixed to you and the third lapping your car. As i got quicker and more confident it looked like your car was mechanically suffering. You were still hammering it (what suspension have you got, the *** really leans out and twists the whole car :-? ) but she was smokng real bad, and eventually my xLPT out powered you on the straights.

A shame becauase you had a real sweet CDE there.

Question, your mate with the 9000lowloader, is he something to do with aeromotive of birstall, as in the two phils? Ive bought and sold cars off them, and use them a lot

all the best

Ross 8)

Simon
4th May 2004, 12:03 PM
As for your car Simon im suspecting foul play :lol: - no way that was 221bhp :wink: :cheesy:

Pete.

Your right Pete it was Dyno'd at 219Bhp :wink: :D

Marrk
4th May 2004, 01:23 PM
Ross,
Its a CD Carlsson with standard suspension which I now know is shot :o :o 179000 miles so cannot complain too much. I alternated the driving with my son who wasn't as confident as me on what the car could do...mind you the one time I ditched him (16 stone of ballast) helped a lot on acceleration as the turbo died :cheesy:
I also need to apologise to anyone who nearly ran into me at times as the car kept going into limp home mode and I had to switch the engine off and back on to reset it. It happened 5 times on the first session :o :o . then 3 times every other session. Going to have to get rid of it permanantly as its a liability.
I love the smell of burning synthetic oil wafting thru the sunroof now... :wink: :wink:

The low loader is Sean Pepper from Hull, he brought a 900 Carlsson on the back to try and sell and sold it!! So he was happy also...he got one lap in at the end as well...seemed to go quite well too.

David!
4th May 2004, 01:57 PM
A short show of the day! 56k go away


http://www.saabscentral.co.uk/saab_event_04.html

You need quicktime (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/) to be able to view...

David!

I have added a short clip of tandino's car, driven by nuts, passing me then taking the right 90 in a cloud of smoke :cheesy:

I spent forever trying to get the brake dust off my wheels :evil: It really was stuck on there good and proper. Anyone else had problems?

Thanks to all for making it such a good day.

roller girl
4th May 2004, 02:19 PM
clg31187....there has been some talk of a track day at limerock but from what i understand it is apparently very expensive....i think that has been the hold up. we had talked about some more auto x type events instead as they tend to be a little more reasonably priced...that and rally x...the next go-fast-in-your-car-thing to try!

money woowoo :cheesy:
is the root of all evil toooday

CaptRossco
4th May 2004, 02:39 PM
Mark

Its still a lovely motor, shame it needs TLC. Switching the engine off must have been hard on the turbo too as you'd be cutting the oil pump and allowing the turbo to spin without cooling. Good result on the c900 carlly then! :lol:

Good show david, anyone got anymore?

That picman seems expensive, 3 a shot, or 35 if you want all of your car on a CD. Still may be good. Could get soemthing printed up on a t-shirt, "i like doing it sideways...." :wink:

Simon
4th May 2004, 02:55 PM
A few more pictures...

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington19.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington20.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington21.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington22.jpg

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington23.jpg

Scotty Mc
4th May 2004, 02:56 PM
I spent forever trying to get the brake dust off my wheels :evil: It really was stuck on there good and proper. Anyone else had problems?


Yes!!!! I'm having problems removing the red shine from the sunburn on my head!! :lol: :cheesy:

tandino
4th May 2004, 02:58 PM
Ahh the two 'Daddies' engaged in dog fight manouveres :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington22.jpg

Scotty Mc
4th May 2004, 03:10 PM
I really cannot wait for the video of Pete and Alan "giving it some!" :cheesy:

CaptRossco
4th May 2004, 03:12 PM
Ahh the two 'Daddies' engaged in dog fight manouveres :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.saabs.cwc.net/Elvington22.jpg

was like something out of TopGun, Maverick and Ice :cheesy:

"Cum on Ice......,take the shot!"

ylee coyote
4th May 2004, 04:56 PM
did I get away unscathed ?
fraid not
brake pads down to the metal
Looks like little cracks radiating from the bolts holding the disc to the bell (warranty job)
Car has gone into limp home mode twice
clicks from the cv joint methinks (after 210,000 miles and half of that @300 hp..they do not owe me anything !!)
mot up on thursday
Car into WMSS next week ...I feel its going to be expensive !!

garry
4th May 2004, 06:01 PM
Looks like it was a great day out! ... If a bit expensive when you add up the hidden costs ie competitive driving wear and tear.

I have never been on a race track before in my life but those cones remind me of a go cart circuit. I think a F1 car would struggle around that...hey a F1 car would probably stall.

ragtopcav
4th May 2004, 06:19 PM
Looks like it was a great day out! ... If a bit expensive when you add up the hidden costs ie competitive driving wear and tear.

You get black flagged for competitive driving :nono; not alllowed mate, Pete and Alan were just getting a bit 'high spirited'.

Most expensive part of the weekend for me was 5000+ miles of tread on the fronts getting chopped off in 78 miles, but the Avons held up quite well considering they're much to soft for that kind of day, they belong in the wet where you can actually feel them 'bite' into the water at high speed.
As far as where and tear goes, of course vehicle systems have been strained, non more than the balls out high end turbocharged vehicles that can dump far more mid rev torque than the chassis was really designed for. My engine seemed quite a happy camper between 4500 -6500rpm, i lost 1mm of oil on the dipstick, brake fluid and water levels exactly as the were the day before the run, brakes still bite and function as they did before the day too, Viggen brake upgrade well worth the work.

Matthew
5th May 2004, 11:41 AM
Huge thanks to Simon for allowing me to take his tuned 9-5 around the track. That car was a real surprise to me, as its handling was comparable with most of the other Saabs and the mid range grunt was impressive. Even a certain black C900 T16S couldn't get the 9-5 off its tail!

Other highlights for me include a ride in John's fabulous T8. That car pulls sweetly all the way to 6,000RPM and must be so satisfying to drive.

The passenger ride in Nev's 9000 Aero is something I'll remember :) I'm still not sure how he managed to get the car around tight corners with seemingly no understeer - something all the other cars seemed to be suffering with.

It has to be said that the track layout was probably the worst possible for large and heavy turbocharged cars. Non-enthusiast observers would conclude that Saabs don't handle well at all!

I have some photos on film that I might post if I can scan them. There's also digital pics from the previous evening, which I'll post soon.

Elvington will rate as one of the very best Saab events I've ever attended. The company was great as usual, and we couldn't have asked for better weather. Can't wait until the Anglesey track day in July! :)

Paul
5th May 2004, 12:18 PM
Elvington will rate as one of the very best Saab events I've ever attended.

Have to agree with you there! 8)

Jezzadee
5th May 2004, 01:46 PM
You get black flagged for competitive driving :nono;

:wink:

Have to say, given how well Ross's car was going, on the round I was passenger with him I was surprised at the 9-5's turn of speed just in front of us (for a while :wink: )

CaptRossco
5th May 2004, 02:11 PM
Uhm :roll:

Well i must add that tandino's car/ driving was at the top.
But simons car did go well for the physics involved in flying it round elvington. For that alone congratulations have to go out to you and your cars setup was way way better than my bros 95, so good job.

However,we (tandino and myself) soon found pace to linger around the back of the 95 for some laps until smiling simon let us past(tandino first offcourse). He'd done well, covered every corner, closed every door and i certainly couldnt keep up on the straights if it wasnt for a quick exit on that long bend! I kept remembering dear jonnys words:
"no overtaking on bends, out of bends, under braking......straights only please gentlemen". Quite wise really as there would have been some closer encounters i think.

Shame it was all over after pete and I had passed simon, a couple of laps it may have been a different story with my little TE05 spinning harder and faster sooner, to qoute jezza in all his childlike joy:

"wow! one more lap and you would have had him" :cheesy: maybe?

Anyhow, some pictures of that dogfight session to come up later......

..... tandino, my man, if you will please.

Jezzadee
5th May 2004, 02:35 PM
Did I say that? :oops: :cheesy: Heat of the moment. We did seem to be gaining - maybe two laps. I do remember passing the 9-5 but it was all a bit of a blur to be honest. I have not seen a newer Saab driving like that before, and was quite surprised at how well the 9-5 seemed to take the corners - I was expecting all the electronic wizardry to smooth it all out.

Alanb
5th May 2004, 04:21 PM
Probably to confuse the issue further, I remember passing both Simon's 9-5 and Tandino's C900 in an early session on the straight. Both were quick (I was also very surprised by the 9-5's power) but my personal opinion was that Tandino's car was measurably quicker. However, I was too busy trying to stay on the track to pay too much attention to others :cheesy: :nono;

In the later sessions Pete's car was definitely faster than earlier. I was no longer able to out-drag it on the straight in my Aero and, later still as a passenger, it was certainly significantly quicker than Simon's 9-5 when we chased him down (although Simon's car was still improbably fast :o ).

Driving style is also important in all of this, as we all seem to agree, and I learned a lot from Tandino's lack of gear-changing and 'playful' driving style. Perhaps not the fastest way 'round the track but smooth and fun!

Alanb

Nuts
5th May 2004, 04:31 PM
Unfortunately the rear camera was turned off for that particular session :( The Alan B chase was captured though - I'll get it ripped next week!

I do remember going past Simon's (v.quick! 219hp?? What was the torque?) 95 a couple of times - but not as fast as I would've expected... I don't remember it hanging around (obviously visibly) for much more than half a lap in the rear view mirror though? Was this the session the 95 went off a few times? :nono; 8)

Pete's 900 as running a very progressive boost spool-up (similar to my t04e - maybe slower?) and a very conservative boost pressure with a rich mixture (black smoke anyone? :lol: ) for safety. Before the Alan B session, Pete did seem to be being a bit 'precious' about his newly fitted engine/gearbox! :nono; :lol:

Rolling road shoot-out :-?? :cheesy:

Alanb
5th May 2004, 04:39 PM
One other point related to this: surely it's now time to organise another PE rolling-road day? I simply don't believe that Simon's car is putting out only 219bhp and Tandino's must be circa 270-280bhp. As for mine, the fifth injector will be going on very soon and that good 'ol MBC will be put back into service. I'll then be shooting for 320bhp. I wonder if many others would be interested?

Alanb

Alanb
5th May 2004, 04:40 PM
Nuts, you beat me to it!

Alanb

Simon
5th May 2004, 04:41 PM
Right that's it I'm going out to buy a 9-5 Aero tomorrow and get a BSR stage 3 fitted to it next week.

Joke

Simon
5th May 2004, 04:42 PM
Was this the session the 95 went off a few times? :nono; 8)

:oops: :lol:

Can't say I wasn't trying... a bit too hard :cheesy:

Nuts
5th May 2004, 04:45 PM
One other point related to this: surely it's now time to organise another PE rolling-road day?
I'm up for it :!

5 injectors?! :nono; 8 for me by then hopefully :! 8)

ylee coyote
5th May 2004, 04:59 PM
don't tempt me....

whats the limit at pe ?

Nuts
5th May 2004, 05:12 PM
don't tempt me....

whats the limit at pe ?Pretty sure it's more than 440hp :oops: :D

ragtopcav
5th May 2004, 05:21 PM
P.E's dyno can handle 750bhp I believe.

5 injectors?! 8 for me by then hopefully
lpg conversion?

Nuts
5th May 2004, 05:37 PM
No lpg for me I'm afraid. Just the hard stuff :wink: :D

ragtopcav
5th May 2004, 06:14 PM
Ooooh, very posh, I like the backdrop to the picture too :cheesy: , playing with the wee'uns cars again? :lol:

Alanb
6th May 2004, 05:19 AM
The more I've thought about this, the more I agree with Ylee: that the circuit was far too tight and that the interests of the Saab Owners' Club were not considered. I've therefore added some negative comments on the Bookatrack website and I have emailed the organisers a letter of complaint.

Let's see what we gat back...

Alanb

ragtopcav
6th May 2004, 05:37 AM
The more I've thought about this, the more I agree with Ylee: that the circuit was far too tight and that the interests of the Saab Owners' Club were not considered.
I have no issue with not setting out the big 'drag strip' straight that Elvington can offer, in reality how many of us have the brakes to pull a car down from 140mph+ time and time again [I have :wink: ], but that is not the point Ylee or [I think] you're getting at Alan, it was the infield complex infront of the hospitality tent, it was tight enough for a heavyweight saloon but it was then made tighter! Jonny's colleague Lauren [pit lane hitler :cheesy: ] had to explain to us what had been changed and she did not seem to happy about it. Ylee, I believe expressed to Jonny about this track change on the day and that it was geared up for 'showboating' in front of the Gordon Lamb hospitality tent. Perhaps we should have just flattened the cones :evil:

Good luck with your complaint Alan, no doubt it'll have as much affect as my grumble with Norton with there anti virus [NOT!] software :roll:

David!
6th May 2004, 03:25 PM
Just added a few still pix for those who have not seen them. I think the best video is still to come from tandino! Though I still have a tape we have not touched yet. Simons 95 eaten by a by me in my 9k. LOL

Mark P
6th May 2004, 04:52 PM
...Perhaps we should have just flattened the cones :evil:

You did your bit in that respect mate, no worries! :wink:

ragtopcav
6th May 2004, 06:32 PM
...Perhaps we should have just flattened the cones :evil:

You did your bit in that respect mate, no worries! :wink:
I'll rephrase it then, 'perhaps we should have flattened more cones' :lol:

akamal
6th May 2004, 06:51 PM
Looks like you all had a fantastic time, gutted I didn't have things sorted out in time to be able to attend. I'm really looking forward to seeing some videos from the day.

And i'll definitely be along for the next PE day.

ak

Marrk
7th May 2004, 04:36 PM
The more I've thought about this, the more I agree with Ylee: that the circuit was far too tight and that the interests of the Saab Owners' Club were not considered.

I totally agree, the course was set up for the kit cars and lotus boys. It was a Saab track day and that should have been the main consideration for the track layout. I will not be going to Elvington again with that track layout. :nono;

David!
7th May 2004, 04:39 PM
The more I've thought about this, the more I agree with Ylee: that the circuit was far too tight and that the interests of the Saab Owners' Club were not considered.

I totally agree, the course was set up for the kit cars and lotus boys. It was a Saab track day and that should have been the main consideration for the track layout. I will not be going to Elvington again with that track layout. :nono;

I quite agree. The track was not set up for turbo nutter barges as they put it.

ragtopcav
11th May 2004, 01:55 PM
The picman (http://www.picman.co.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?20040501BatElv) photo's are up.

Simon
12th May 2004, 10:19 AM
Some good pic's! :D

The maximum cost for any number of images on one CD is 35.00. Looks like you could fit about 70 images on one CD. If anyone is interested I could order one CD for 35.00 with up to 6 other peoples cars on the CD and burn copies of the CD and post them out @ 5.00 a time to reduce the cost!

Anyone who is interested let me know!

Simon.

Fliptop
12th May 2004, 07:36 PM
I don't suppose anyone got a good pic of me & Rich on 2 wheels before the V4 broke, did you?!

Big Nev
13th May 2004, 04:12 AM
Simon,you have PM



I don't suppose anyone got a good pic of me & Rich on 2 wheels before the V4 broke, did you?!

Have a look at picmans photos of Ylee's Aero,theres one of the V4 looking a bit 'top heavy'in the background :o

Fliptop
13th May 2004, 06:37 AM
Thanks! :D

Simon
13th May 2004, 07:50 AM
Maybe not then. E-mail from Picman...

We only put one vehicle on a CD as a matter of policy. Unfortunately, some people are less than honest and we have found that, if we put more vehicles on a CD, such people ignore our copyright and illegally circulate copies for say 5 a time.

They must be referring to me and my post on Saabcentral! :roll: :lol:

Sorry people. Bit of a con really...

KevBu
13th May 2004, 06:42 PM
Maybe not then. E-mail from Picman...

We only put one vehicle on a CD as a matter of policy. Unfortunately, some people are less than honest and we have found that, if we put more vehicles on a CD, such people ignore our copyright and illegally circulate copies for say 5 a time.

They must be referring to me and my post on Saabcentral! :roll: :lol:

Busted :oops:

Ive not said thanks yet to saabcentral for organising a great day, so, thanks :cheesy: !

Really was the best weather, best people, best marque. I would to do it again in a blink.

Only 6 pics of the CJB, but 4 more in other file.
If you plan on buying picture cd, check the 0misc file for your car, it looks like pic man put pics in here when number plates cant be seen (ie side shots).