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: OBD II Scan Tool, anybody picked one up?


ctrlz
30th April 2004, 10:14 AM
Since, I'm considering messing with the engine in way which might throw codes, I'm also considering a scan tool.

This one seems pretty impressive in its capabilities. Goes for $130 to $150 on ebay. You need a Palm.
http://www.auterraweb.com/scantoolsoftware.html

Ebay also offers generic OBD II readers for about $20. They will flash codes, clear them, and turn off the check engine light.

rando67
30th April 2004, 11:15 AM
Here is some conversation was in another forum:
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29308

I would only say 'you get what you pay for' or 'let the buyer beware.' I say this because I speculate that the tool you are indicating may not suit your needs in the future. But who knows, I might be wrong.

There might be other posts about a scan tool ... I haven't looked.

Let us know about your feedback (if you end-up going with one).

Good luck.

9.3 Joe
30th April 2004, 11:20 AM
Seems like a great tool. Does it measure boost psi of oil temp. I think our turbos are oil cooled, and that is good info. I think I may get one. Thnaks for the info. Anyon euse one on a 04 93.

ctrlz
30th April 2004, 11:42 AM
Seems like a great tool. Does it measure boost psi of oil temp. I think our turbos are oil cooled, and that is good info. I think I may get one. Thnaks for the info. Anyon euse one on a 04 93.

I don't know. They list Saab as a supported vehicle.

Ah, here we go:
http://www.auterraweb.com/auterra/supsen.html

The 9000 apparently used the MAP sensor to report boost pressure, and also triggered "overboost" at a level of 15 psi. Not sure what the levels are on the new 9-3.

This Palm-based tool looks like it offers pretty good bang-for-the-buck. I know I'm not in the market for a $1500 PC-based analysis tool. The $20 code scanner would be easily justifiable for me, as my dealer is an hour away. I have no idea what service stations charge to hook you up to their scanner. But in 1983, when I worked at Tony's Sunoco, it was $35 just to pull into a bay.

LinearSLT
1st May 2004, 02:40 PM
The Palm based one, which I have, only works for the old 9-3 and 9-5. The 9-3SS uses a different protocol becasue of it's CAN-Bus and that is not supported by any of the Palm based devices unfortunately.

Otherwise the Palm solution is great. I used it to tune my 2000 9-3 and reset codes when I did something stupid. Definitely a useful tuner tool. It could tell you for example the boost and intake temps and fuel trims for a PPC mod very easily.

Guess we have to wait still.

ctrlz
1st May 2004, 10:07 PM
Major bummer!

Any good sites on the CAN-bus out there? I would like to read about this.

ctrlz
1st May 2004, 10:13 PM
Found this CAN-Bus overview:
http://www.motorage.com/motorage/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=61759

ctrlz
1st May 2004, 10:20 PM
The Palm based one, which I have, only works for the old 9-3 and 9-5. The 9-3SS uses a different protocol becasue of it's CAN-Bus and that is not supported by any of the Palm based devices unfortunately.

Otherwise the Palm solution is great. I used it to tune my 2000 9-3 and reset codes when I did something stupid. Definitely a useful tuner tool. It could tell you for example the boost and intake temps and fuel trims for a PPC mod very easily.

Guess we have to wait still.

Panicking now... easy... easy,boy...
There :!
http://www.ghg.net/dharrison/canscan.htm

Howdya like them apples :-??

rando67
1st May 2004, 11:32 PM
There might be a PC based application that may only require an interface to suit your needs.

I know when I was working at one of the big-3 that such tools exsist. I haven't done any research on this since I am not personally interested in one. I believe that they are probably more of a development tool then a tech tool. Here are a couple starting points:
http://www.spacetools.com/tools4/space/344.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=CAN+bus+tool&btnG=Search

orion7144
2nd May 2004, 04:29 AM
The Palm based one, which I have, only works for the old 9-3 and 9-5. The 9-3SS uses a different protocol becasue of it's CAN-Bus and that is not supported by any of the Palm based devices unfortunately.

Otherwise the Palm solution is great. I used it to tune my 2000 9-3 and reset codes when I did something stupid. Definitely a useful tuner tool. It could tell you for example the boost and intake temps and fuel trims for a PPC mod very easily.

Guess we have to wait still.

Panicking now... easy... easy,boy...
There :!
http://www.ghg.net/dharrison/canscan.htm

Howdya like them apples :-??

That looks like a nice tool.. Gotta go check and see if my laptop has a serial port. I think I only have USB ports.

ctrlz
2nd May 2004, 12:11 PM
That looks like a nice tool.. Gotta go check and see if my laptop has a serial port. I think I only have USB ports.
One of many possible solutions:
http://www.serial-usb-adapter.com/

ctrlz
2nd May 2004, 12:35 PM
Nice tool, I should say! Looks like it logs FOUR sensor outputs simultaneously!
http://www.ghg.net/dharrison/canscan.htm

Here's another one that supports CAN:
$180 on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2476677427&category=43989&sspagename=WDVW
Looks like it also supports four sensor ouputs simultaneously (two on each graph):
http://www.autoenginuity.com/sc-graph.html
Palm based also available:
http://www.autoenginuity.com/products-scantoolpalm.html
CAN support requires a cable modification:
What is CAN?

CAN is short for Controller Area Network. It will be the required electrical interface for all vehicles beginning in the model year of 2006. Some vendors began using CAN exclusively in the model year of 2004 (Ford, Mazda, Jaguar, Mercedes, BMW, Nissan, and Subaru). While other manufacturers implemented it selectively in their vehicles beginning in the 2004 model year (Toyota, SAAB, and Porshce). The CAN option is a new daughter board that fits inside our existing OBDII connector design. It is not field updatible and requires the OBDII connector to be returned to us so that we can update a ROM and insert the daughter board.

They also offer Bluetooth connectivity. Read the FAQ:
http://www.autoenginuity.com/faqs.html