Hey guys I am looking for a Saab Aero, 2007-2009 years-manual. But I would also look at the 2010-2012 year Turbo4 manual as well. I want something different that has potential to be driven hard and not brake ;ol;
I don't abuse my cars, and I want to be able to use lower springs or go with coilovers if I have the chance. Also I want to be able to tune the engine for more hp and torqe. I have seen the Hirsch upgrade for the Turbo4 go from 220 to 260hp. Is this a good deal? How do you like the 6 speed manual? How much hp/torque can it put up with without braking?
The MkII Aero looks great, but no manual and the thing weighs over 4100lbs! I love how it looks though.
On another note, what is the weight of the Turno4 manual car anyway? I can't find it. I am looking at the power to weight ratio. The car weighs x amount and has say 260hp= ;ol;
You will be hard-pressed to find a manual. We have a red one here in town and thats one of less than 100 premium models in the entire country.
Curb weight is at 3890 dry, I am currently remote-tuning the T4 and right at 270hp 290 ft.lbs but alas the auto is slow and clunky. Passing power is great though.
With exhaust and a larger intercooler this engine is capable of at least 340hp 350ft/lbs but only with those mods. Also you wont find any Mk II NG 9-5 for less than $15,000 dollars.
If you really want to tune and mod stick with the B235R Turbo4 motor found in the 2005 and up Mk I 9-5s there is an absolute ton of potential and you can net nearly 300 hp with ZERO hardware mods.
Do a few searches on here. Other than a couple guys that hirsched their new 9-5 I am the only one looking for more of a custom tune through Vermont Tuning
Hey thanks- I would pay $15,000 for a good stock model. If all I had to do was the intercooler, exhaust and a tune, I would consider myself lucky! Money starts adding up quick with forged pistons, headers (or manifold) plus the above.
The car is a little on the heavy side, but the Mk II Aero is at 4300lbs I think. The awd must be heavy. The cool thing is if I found one, it would be super rare. I really like the body style though. ;ol;
If I find a nice 2005-2009 with low miles and no oil sludge issues, I would probably go that direction; unless I get lucky and find a Manual Mk II.
Does Hirsched still exist in the states?
You can't get it here in San Diego thats for sure and it's $1300!!. I was just talking 4cyl numbers check out Vermont tuning he has the 2.8T up to 320-340hp right off the bat but thats about the limit with no supporting mods.
I would be happy with that. How is he doing your tune anyway? Did you send your ECU off to him since you live in CA? Or is it a plug and play type of tune like a COBB unit.
Its like a cobb unit but he can read my logs and modify as necessary, read codes etc. $699 is all you need and he does the rest from VT. Right now I'm at 260ish hp with 282ft/lbs at the crank, quite an improvement from 220hp and 259ft/lbs. Its still a work in progress and kinda fun to keep swapping tunes. As soon as I'm done he'll have a pretty good box tune to sell right out of the box.
Looking to be at 270+ something with 300ft/lbs in another week just haven't had time to log enough data. He's even working with more for a stable E85/91 max (safe) mix as well!
Very nice. Imagine how much fun you would really be having with a manual version.
With the weight of this car just under 3900lbs, the closer you get to 300hp the better. The car looks amazing, with more power, this would be a real keeper!
Now just for fun, can you get the Aero front bumper? I know it would probably cost more than $1500.00, but that bumper is sweet. Along with a diffuser in the back and a quad exhaust, this car would be even more of a head turner. (and of course stiffer springs and 18" wheels-I am not asking for too much)
I have the 18s and they are great would totally buy stiffer/lower springs if they had em. Hirsch still sells the quad exhaust and diffuser and you can probably order an aero front clip. Overseas you could actually get a Turbo4 Aero.
Sweet! I wonder if That Aero is available with a manual. ;ol;
Anyway I bet your car looks real good with 18s. Who makes stiffer or lower springs for your model-maybe Koni? Would the Aero springs work in your car? I think they are 1/2" lower-I will have to do some more research.
No one makes a spring and the Aero uses a completely different suspension setup. Maybe Vogtland or Eibach will develop a set but I doubt it due to the low production numbers.
The 4cyl aero was only sold in the EU market.
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