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Oliver
24-03-04, 07:42 AM
****, I scratched my car.
Any suggestions on how to resolve this

a) as cheaply as possible.

And

B) as cheaply as possible.

Keep in mind that I HAVE TO HAVE LPG fitted to any car I drive/buy/lend...

NO the Aero isn't going :lol:

Ps: notice how I managed not to even SCRATCH the bumpers...

Gordy
24-03-04, 07:45 AM
Yikes! What happened?

My commiserations Oliver. :cry:

Abbott 900
24-03-04, 07:45 AM
A bit of T-Cut should buff that right out!!!

In all seriousness, that looks like quite a bit of work to sort out...

jnorris
24-03-04, 07:51 AM
Wow :o that looks pretty nasty mate, hope you weren't too shaken up by it. Doubt that by any standards it will be a cheap job unfortunately. Best of luck.

Stefano
24-03-04, 07:51 AM
Now THIS is real jealousy :cheesy:

If the priorities are those two, I'd say that two lights and a couple of hammer strokes are enough to drive the car again. Just give it some primer where the paint went away so the rust won't eat your car this time...

Is the front wheel damaged in any way? is the steering still straight? looking at the fender damage it seems that the wheel also had a close meeting...

Keep in mind that I HAVE TO HAVE LPG fitted to any car I drive/buy/lend...

Why? and how does it relate with the scratch?

yfs87
24-03-04, 07:53 AM
ouch, im feelin for ya, i was gonna say look for a new quarterpanel on ebay, until i saw the door and back...i dont know, maybe you could try ebay to see how much you can get. other than that i dont know what you can do. :evil: DAMN whatever you hit for getting in your way!! it happens to the best of us...
:oops:
-wyeth

greenphotos
24-03-04, 07:59 AM
Bad luck, at least it was in a Saab, anything else and you'd have got injured!

I reckon the cheapest way would be to find a donor car, then use the panels you need and keep the rest for spares.

Mark
:cheesy:

Oliver
24-03-04, 08:12 AM
Nothing mechanical was touched, it still drives like the dream it was. I stuck on some plastic lights (all still worked) and since I need my car I'm driving it as it is.

What I have considered:

a) find a reeeelly cheap old 900 (I'm talking 100 quid cheap here) and let the bodyshop cut and weld the panels, followed by a respray. I'll lie to myself and say it was a very expensive paintjob :-?
End of day: the two 900's, together worth around 3.5-4 grand ()

b) buy a cheap 900/9000, transfer the LPG, and use mine to clean up the Aero (which subsequently needs a lot of cleaning up)
End of day: a cheap daily car, the Aero and a parts car, together worth about 3 grand ()

It'll all come down to how much the LPG specialist and the bodyshop want for the work.

Thing is I've really grown attached to my car, I don't want to see her dead :( even though she might live on in parts for the Aero...

TFatC
24-03-04, 08:57 AM
Oliver

Where are you in the UK? I can probably help with some/most/all bits or a donor car. Located near Aberdeen!

Edit: Assumed you were in UK when you said 100 quid, but just noticed the Belgium sticker in the photo :oops:

Paco
24-03-04, 09:38 AM
Ouch....! That's a new take on the "clear corners" look :o :cheesy:

The deformation of the rear wing into the tailgate looks boring to fix properly, if I were you I'd avoid spending real money on her, and just make her legal and safe. No-one will steal her now anyway :wink:

The idea of parting it out and having the lpg in another car could be good, is there enough compatible stuff on this one to use on the aero?

Hmm I could do with your bumper covers....... :wink:

GearHead
24-03-04, 09:51 AM
What did you hit? :-??

baco99
24-03-04, 10:04 AM
scratch???? jeez

Stefano
24-03-04, 10:10 AM
What did you hit? :-??

If you look at the thread title and at the pics, it's pretty ovious it was a guard rail on a off ramp...

I reckon some understeer here. Dirty road or just a fault at judging the sharpness of the bend?

Why do you NEED the LPG Oliver? I run on LPG too, what kind of kit do you hve?

CosmicSaab
24-03-04, 12:21 PM
Oh, ouch!!! :o

This is probably a case where it would cost more to fix than the car is actually worth. I take it that your insurance is liability only, so that makes things even worse. That damage is pretty extensive, I think I even see some deformation of the hatch. You might be best just saying good bye and finding something new. :cry:

nutcase
24-03-04, 01:06 PM
Oh Oliver, at least your ok! What have you done to your nice car :( I hope you get it sorted ok...

And remember, if you go breakers yard hunting, I'm still after a pair of headlamps...

pda
24-03-04, 01:37 PM
A large plaster & some antiseptic cream should fix it :cheesy: :cheesy:

now Oliver what hit you :o :o :o
as Richard has said at least you are ok :wink: :wink:

Paul

GearHead
24-03-04, 02:07 PM
going a little too fast for the turn?

Oliver
24-03-04, 03:07 PM
Yeah I missed the guardrail coming from the left. :lol:
Actually it oversteered. I still had it though (been practising on that) but unfortunately I was too close to the rail so the back corner hit it. The car then swiveled to the left and smacked itself into the guardrail.

I'm probably going to get her fixed...
The cost of tranfering the LPG to another car + the fact that I... love her too much made the decision for me.
Looking for a parts car now. The body 'll be for the 'i, the parts for the Aero. That way I'll get a decent hood and bootlid too.
I was planning on getting a cheap car to get parts from for the Aero anyway, so...

The mighty Iron will rise from it's ashes!!
(and in black at that)

Oh look, corny me :cry:


Oh Stefano I "need" LPG because I can't afford petrol...
Driving 6 months on petrol costs me as much a complete LPG setup, so....
Oh and I thnink I have an Italian kit, Tartarini or something...

CosmicSaab
24-03-04, 03:47 PM
What's an LPG? :-??

TFatC
24-03-04, 03:54 PM
Liquified Petroleum Gas - about half petrol price in the UK

900t
24-03-04, 04:36 PM
Just fix it yourself and get it professionally resprayed.

new lights there, try with a slide hammer to pop it back sortof, light skimming of Bondo on what is left, filler primer, sand sand, skim, sand and prime.

then get resprayed and presto! Car is like it was, no major work and you are only out about 500 quid (on the high side) and driving a nice-looking Aero like you were before.

The only problem is:

Front fender is bent at beginning. You can probably right this to within 90% of original, and with the light and everything put back nobody will tell.

Rear of quarter panel is also bent at the end. Screwy. This can also be righted by yourself with about 90-95% accuracy, but you might be able to tell.

Rear hatch is no problem. Bend it back.

Hood again no problem, in fact insanely easy. Using a block of wood, try to pop from the backside, then just skim some bondo (fibreglass filler. You can also use body solder (lead/tin) on it but this requires skill) on top of it.

Door, ditto. Getting at the other side is more difficult, but it can be done OK.

Willy Wonka
24-03-04, 07:36 PM
Sorry about the car Oliver. :o
Good news that LPG is working. 8)
You'll have to post a thread on it for the rest of us.

DeLorean
24-03-04, 11:01 PM
900t, trying to hammer and bondo damage like that... no, it just simply won't work. even if you hammer it back into general shape and slap a gew GALLONS of bondo in it, it will still look like crap when it's finished, and will be full of cracks in 2 seasons. Best bet to *try* and fix it is to get a parts car and start cutting and welding! :cheesy:

Oliver
25-03-04, 12:00 PM
er... yeah.
Third c900 on it's way :oops:

02TurboAnniversary
26-03-04, 07:38 AM
Oh man!

May be we can put the good bits together from our cars :D

A roo decided to take a closer look at Saabby this morning.. :evil:

TheRedRocket
27-03-04, 12:28 AM
:o I thought you learned your lesson after this :roll:

http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22661&highlight=

Oliver
27-03-04, 08:38 AM
Yeah I did, the car didn't.

garry
27-03-04, 03:36 PM
It would take me about an hour to remove that scratch in photoshop..
*dull chuckle*
But seriously,

new 2nd hand bonnet, and a quote from a bodyshop... cost may not be too bad.

A tip if you try to fix parts of it yourself... heat the metal first. the hotter the metal the easyer it reforms.

Oliver
28-03-04, 06:18 AM
To be honest, I'm cr*p at bodywork.
It's going to be done by a pro, all the way from from bonnet to boot...
I'll posts some pics when it's being repaired...

Oliver
10-04-04, 01:45 PM
News, news!
Here's what the Saab dealer quoted me to repair ALL damage to my car:

Parts:

-Hood: 447
-Hood emblem: 26
-Front indicator: 100
-Front left bodywork: 179
-Fender cover: 442
-Chrome detail front: 45
-Type emblem : 30
-Rear lens: 105
-Aft left bodywork: 171
-Chrome detail aft: 36
-Wheelarch aft left: 6

Labour:

-wheelarch front left: 25
-wheelarch aft left: 45
-Boot: 45
-Front left wing includes:
Bumper, chrome detail, park light, door and electric installation, partial removal and reinstall of the wiring loom, headlights adjustment: 53
-Hood: remove and reinstall, includes adjustment, hooks, isolation carpets, hinges and emblem: 19
-Handle: remove and reinstall: 2
-Doorlock: 6
-Boot emblem: 1
-Replace bumper cover: 3
-Replace side wing aft left, includes: backseat, back window, headliner, bumper, licence plate support, side trim and rear lens, remove and reinstall: 163

Respray:

-Hood: 32
-Wing front left: 24
-Left side wing: 46
-Boot: 24
-Extras: 17

ADDED TOTAL:
Total parts: 1770
Total labour: 1476
Respray: 838
Environment: 18
Anti-rust: 4

Total VAT excluded: 4109
Total VAT included: 4972 :P


I think I'll settle for my hammer and crowbar for now :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
I'll keep everyone posted

Stefano
10-04-04, 01:54 PM
Labour:

-Boot emblem: € 1
-Replace bumper cover: € 3



:cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:

He's not too friendly.... :-?

Oliver
05-05-04, 07:53 PM
NEWS NEWS NEWS!!!
Just bought my third ( :cheesy: ) Saab today.
Even though it's only a parts car, that still makes me a Saabnut, no?

The facts: '89 c900 3-door, Eddy gray, the works (leather, sunroof, power window, mirrors).
She's dented on the right-hand side (how lucky can you get aye :wink: ) and overall needs some TLC... which she obviously isn't going to get :cheesy:

But there's more. The engine's totall loss due to a catastrophic failure of... everything really. The owner spoke of pumps seizing up, smoking, popping hoses, grinding noises, the lot. Well I heard it crank and he wasn't joking.
You must know over the phone he spoke of a T16, but when I got there there were 900i badges on the boot. Hmmm, strange.
Open comes the hood.

:o

:o

I didn't have the chance to take any pictures of the engine yet, but you'll see for yourself in a few days.
I was looking at none other than a turbo'd B202i engine...
I couldn't believe what I saw!

He:
"Oh yeah a friend of mine put a turbo on it 'caus it was too slow. She went like a rocket after the conversion!! Unfortunately she also went out with a bang 1000 :! km's later."

Me:
Er... yeah?

He:
"However she has brand new shocks all round, brand new windscreen, brand new full exhaust (no cat), good leather, and the least rust I have EVER seen on a c900 this age..."
"I'd still like 750 euros for it, she costed me five times as much in parts..."

Me:
I'll give you 600 and collect her in the weekend (casually gets out pile of bills).

He:
Sign here please.

What do you think? Good buy or not?
Don't forget she is only a parts car. It doesn't matter how she drives/looks like/feels like. The bodywork will be used to save The Iron, and the parts (exhaust, leather, etc) are going on the Aero... Here are some preliminary pictures (what a word)...

Ps: the guy was almost in tears when I showed him where she would be cut up and which panels would be used :cry:

Pps: Nutcase, Rage, Jezzadee, Matthew, Pda, JerryP,... Fancy a trip to Belgium? It's an awful lot of parts to take off/keep for myself :wink:

nutcase
06-05-04, 03:11 AM
Pps: Rage, Jezzadee, Matthew, Pda, JerryP,... Fancy a trip to Belgium? It's an awful lot of parts to take off/keep for myself :wink:

I've altered your list for you, you made a mistake :P :cheesy:

You should be old hat now at destroying saab's :cheesy: If I had some money, I'd be there! Sounds like you're going to have some fun there!

pda
06-05-04, 01:00 PM
Hi Oliver,
are you paying for us boys to come over to Belgium to give you a hand :wink: :wink:

Paul

Oliver
06-05-04, 03:14 PM
Er...

No. :D

Oh does anyone know if clear side indicators for the 900 can be bought individually, i.e. not per pair?

Cheers

Rhino2.3t
06-05-04, 03:17 PM
woo.. i'm sure if you begged and pleaded with elkparts they'd sell you just one.. equally as youve broken the unusual side - buy a pair and stick the o/s on ebay........

nutcase
06-05-04, 03:20 PM
Well I've already put an order in for a couple of bits :cheesy: Trying to think of anything else I may need...

Mattlach
06-05-04, 04:33 PM
Liquified Petroleum Gas - about half petrol price in the UK

Ahh...

Is this what also is referred to as "natural Gas"?

It also reduces power quite heftily, no?

thumpar
06-05-04, 05:19 PM
Liquified Petroleum Gas - about half petrol price in the UK

Ahh...

Is this what also is referred to as "natural Gas"?

It also reduces power quite heftily, no?

We call it propane. The lumber yard trucks up here are converted to it as it is much cheaper. It produces alot more heat but burns cleaner. I am not sure on the power reduction.

Dan

zingZACH
06-05-04, 08:44 PM
....and overall needs some TLC... which she obviously isn't going to get :cheesy: .....

Ps: the guy was almost in tears when I showed him where she would be cut up and which panels would be used :cry:



Now, I was cracking up at that first part... but when you said the guy was almost in tears, I would have punched you in the face if you had told me such things :cry: :cry: :nono; :oops: I would be crushed if I were that guy :cry:

ragtopcav
06-05-04, 09:07 PM
Liquified Petroleum Gas - about half petrol price in the UK

Ahh...

Is this what also is referred to as "natural Gas"?

It also reduces power quite heftily, no?

We call it propane. The lumber yard trucks up here are converted to it as it is much cheaper. It produces alot more heat but burns cleaner. I am not sure on the power reduction.

DanI was a good lad and used the search and came up with this lpg (http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7997&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20) thread.

Oliver
07-05-04, 12:13 PM
I would have punched you in the face if you had told me such things

Pardon? :o :cheesy:

Honestly, I know, but the guy responded to a "wanted" ad in which I clearly stated what the car was for...

To mention LPG again, in Belgium it's about one third the price of petrol (3 litres/Eur) and takes about 5-10 percent of total power output. I don't mind, since I seem to keep up with other 900i's quite nicely.

I'm collecting the car on sunday btw...

Rhino2.3t
07-05-04, 04:37 PM
I would have punched you in the face if you had told me such things

Pardon? :o :cheesy:

Honestly, I know, but the guy responded to a "wanted" ad in which I clearly stated what the car was for...

To mention LPG again, in Belgium it's about one third the price of petrol (3 litres/Eur) and takes about 5-10 percent of total power output. I don't mind, since I seem to keep up with other 900i's quite nicely.

I'm collecting the car on sunday btw...

three little things spring to mind :roll:

first up..punching people in the face? i only have to look out of my front door and listen to the kids walking to school to hear that, let alone the symbians ;) in the pub at the weekend.. we sposed to be a friendly community with a common ground no? leading to.. good luck with the repairs! taking the old bits to keep the other (lucky?) ones alive should be heartily supported - the c900 is a dying breed after all :cry:

and finally.. look up gassy's 2.3t running lpg 8) third generation lpg kit putting out more than on petrol iirc..
and everybody loves flames on the overrun :cheesy:

keep these things alive...

Oliver
19-05-04, 02:37 PM
heyheyhey NEWS!!

Got the rapair-Saab today.
MY GOD!! :o For someone who had never driven a trailer before, a 4-wheeled 2 ton piece of metal behind my car was definately something!! And when it started swinging on the highway at 60 mph my heart definately skipped a few beats :oops:
Anyway, here's some pics.

nutcase
19-05-04, 03:17 PM
I love that rear view mirror pic :) Although naughty you for using camera while driving :p

Mattlach
19-05-04, 08:37 PM
heyheyhey NEWS!!

Got the rapair-Saab today.

Nice!

It looks like you lucked out and they are both the same color. Will you be able to get away without painting it?

--matt

Oliver
20-05-04, 05:52 PM
Will you be able to get away without painting it
--matt

Afraid not :-?
With the cutting and welding it'll have to be painted anyhow.
Can't decide on the colour though. Metallic black only costs half of other colors, so...

CosmicSaab
20-05-04, 05:58 PM
Will you be able to get away without painting it
--matt

Afraid not :-?
With the cutting and welding it'll have to be painted anyhow.
Can't decide on the colour though. Metallic black only costs half of other colors, so...

Metallic black is great IMO.

Oliver
16-06-04, 08:20 AM
Well monday I started stripping both cars to prepare them for the panel-swap planned later this week.
Built by drunken Swedes indeed!!
Actually it isn't hard at all :roll:

Oliver
16-06-04, 08:26 AM
And some more...
And indeed the missus ain't afraid to dig in and get dirrrty :cheesy:

Mss Oliver
16-06-04, 09:12 AM
You may call me understanding AND helpful now ... :cheesy: :wink:

Rhino2.3t
16-06-04, 09:18 AM
looks like MrsRhino has competition in the help stakes :wink:

always willing to get her hands dirty 8) only problem now is the fight for the ignition keys when we go out :cheesy:
(she wasn't keen on the 'Barge' 9000)

Mattlach
16-06-04, 10:20 AM
You may call me understanding AND helpful now ... :cheesy: :wink:

Haha.

I hope Oliver realizes how lucky he is to have a beautiful woman who doesn't mind working on the Saab :cheesy:

Oliver
16-06-04, 10:48 AM
Me? Lucky??

..

Naaaa :cheesy: :wink:

Well maybe a little... :oops:

Stefano
16-06-04, 02:06 PM
Any other pics of the missus, just to show off how lucky you are? :cheesy:

Oliver
16-06-04, 04:15 PM
Uhm sure what's your e-mail? :cheesy:

NO SORRY I didn't say that, let's not go off-topic shall we?
The car's the star here, not my gf :nono; :cheesy:

nutcase
16-06-04, 05:24 PM
See! Your England trip came in handy! mindless destruction is definitely an English speciality ;) But we teach well...

Typical innit, if it's cold and wet, the ladies don't want to know, if it's hot and sunny they're running it!

CosmicSaab
16-06-04, 09:55 PM
What's that, or should I say, who's that? She sure looks pretty. :o 8)


Oh yeah, umm, its good to hear the car is going okay too. :wink:

GearHead
16-06-04, 10:02 PM
ummm...she's a bute.
Question:Why not just transport the running gear from damaged one into nice bodied one?

nutcase
17-06-04, 02:54 AM
Because the spares car if crunched on the other side IIRC.

Oliver
17-06-04, 06:11 AM
Because:

1) the nice bodied one has a dent on the opposite side
2) it's a looooot of running gear
3) mine's two years younger
4) I like my first Saab better
5) it's better built (the other one's been messed with I reckon)

Question: what's been plagueing me all these years is
what the *bleep* does IIRC mean!?

I mean, I figured out
LMAO: laughing my *** off
ROFL: Rolls over floor
IMHO: in my humble opinion

But IIRC is beyond me :o

Rhino2.3t
17-06-04, 06:15 AM
if i remember correctly, it means 'if i remember correctly'
AFAIK..

:wink:

Oliver
17-06-04, 06:38 AM
Oh now you're just playing with it.

AFAIK?

Rhino2.3t
17-06-04, 07:28 AM
as far as i know..

here endeth the comedy. (some might ask, when did it begin?)

jnorris
17-06-04, 07:30 AM
ROFL - Roll on the floor laughing :lol:

Cuba
17-06-04, 07:38 AM
better built (the other one's been messed with I reckon)

Question: what's been plagueing me all these years is
what the *bleep* does IIRC mean!?

I mean, I figured out
LMAO: laughing my *** off
ROFL: Rolls over floor
IMHO: in my humble opinion

But IIRC is beyond me :o

Well then I've been in the wrong place for quite some time. I wont bother you with what I thought all those abreviations meant, but this clearly isn't the Saab porn extravaganza I thought it was. I feel all embarassed now :lol:

greenphotos
17-06-04, 08:50 AM
Don't forget you can add them together to make ROFLMAO :wink:

nutcase
17-06-04, 11:06 AM
http://www.acronymfinder.com/

for all your acronym needs :) And a fair few you never will too!

Oliver
17-06-04, 11:08 AM
How come threads get hijacked so easily?

Oh that's right, I started :oops:

Rhino2.3t
17-06-04, 11:09 AM
WOW TFA :cheesy:

Oliver
17-06-04, 11:15 AM
Transient Fault Analysis !? :o

Ok, we stop here, 'cause we're at 4 pages

AND MY CAR STILL ISN'T FIXED!!

:nono;

Paco
17-06-04, 11:19 AM
Hasn't she finished it yet??? :wink:

Mss Oliver
17-06-04, 01:50 PM
No, not yet, I can't do it all now can I? :wink:
I left him the easy bits to do :lol:

nutcase
17-06-04, 02:25 PM
What, like the cutting, welding, painting? ;) 8)

yfs87
17-06-04, 10:44 PM
now with the addition of a women into the scene, this really has become a sitcom as the title so hinted. this is getting intense man!! hahaha have fun fixin her up and keep us posted

-wyeth

Oliver
20-06-04, 08:44 AM
Any other pics of the missus, just to show off how lucky you are? :cheesy:

http://users.skynet.be/dtb/images/meeting%20knokke/DSCF0031.JPG

And she can drive this one too!
Only in first gear, but still :cheesy:

GearHead
21-06-04, 03:27 AM
that wasn't A good pic.

*hint* more revealing clothes working on cars/motorbike/whatever works best. :lol:

nutcase
21-06-04, 01:22 PM
Cool, I've not seen a pic of that bike before!

noSAAB4me
26-06-04, 10:35 PM
I did that once, but it was a junker car that I was playing around with and the left side got caught on a bumper. So insted of trying to fix it. I just kept driving.

900t
27-06-04, 07:26 PM
http://users.skynet.be/dtb/images/meeting%20knokke/DSCF0031.JPG

And she can drive this one too!
Only in first gear, but still :cheesy:

She likes to ride your Monkey, Oliver? :cheesy:

Mss Oliver
03-07-04, 05:25 PM
Uhm ... what can I say? :roll: :wink:

Mattlach
03-07-04, 11:49 PM
Uhm ... what can I say? :roll: :wink:

Just take all the attention as a compliment! :P

tevid
04-07-04, 03:50 PM
kids....... :o




*goes back to watching debby does dallas*

Oliver
15-08-04, 04:53 PM
News!!

Some of you might have noticed I'm in the process of fixing a pretty "scratched" c900.
In the last few weeks I finally got some work done.
I cut up the 900 I have for spares and gave the parts to the bodyshop along with my 900.
I took some pics of the process, enjoy!

nutcase
15-08-04, 04:59 PM
I hope you chopped the right one :D

I did notice you hadn't left any updates recently. Looks like you've been busy though :)

How long do you think until you get the car back?

Oliver
15-08-04, 05:01 PM
And one more of the cut up 900.
Warning! Graphical content!!!

Oliver
15-08-04, 05:08 PM
Nutcase, you're here 24/7, aren't you :nono; :cheesy:


Well, I already got it back 8)

Oliver
15-08-04, 05:10 PM
The last pictures...

I've got some vids of me cutting up the Saab, but no site to host them on...

My wallet hurts now :( :lol:

Orca
15-08-04, 05:23 PM
Nutcase, you're here 24/7, aren't you :nono; :cheesy:)

I think he loves his SAAB more than the Austin/MG/Rover things he also owns :wink: Yeah, he's one of those "always here" guys ... nice to have around.

Good work on that 900 Oliver ...

Smackrazor
15-08-04, 09:33 PM
Now your car looks vaguely like mine. You can join the Frisian Cow Saab club :lol:

yfs87
16-08-04, 09:50 AM
its nice to see progress good job and good luck

Paco
16-08-04, 10:28 AM
Wow, major surgery, good luck in hiding the repair over that swage line! Looking forward to seeing the painted pics 8)

nutcase
16-08-04, 11:04 AM
Not 24/7, more like 23 1/2 7 :) Have to sleep sometime!

Looking good though :)