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: Han Choi's 1992 N/a 900 vert.


Han Choi
10-04-11, 12:18 PM
So I have finally gotten around to starting a project thread. I have been wanting to do this for a while, but things kept getting in the way. I have had the car for about 7 months at this point so I suppose I will start by explaining what all has happened to my car since the purchase date. Just for the record I am still very young, and have had no experience working with cars whatsoever. This is my first car and so far it has been the most fun/frustrating hobby I have ever picked up. This is all being funded by money I saved from 3 years of summer jobs, and my current job:cheesy:

Because my car is n/a I am limited to very few power and performance mods, but I am confident that the amount of repairs I will be doing/ have done will be sufficient :D


http://i.imgur.com/dg2du.jpg

Han Choi
10-04-11, 12:25 PM
When I first bought the car there was a massive rip in the top, which I had repaired almost immediately. The carpets were damp when I first test drove the car and I just assumed that the rip was the only problem. It turns out that there is another source of water that I still need to pin point.

The rip was around the rear window so I only had that section replaced. I have a feeling that the rest of the roof just needs some waterproof sealant, and that should fix my problem. I got lucky in the fact that it didn't rain too much this winter.

Han Choi
10-04-11, 12:40 PM
The interior was completely destroyed when I got the car, and I have slowly been bringing it back to life. My goal is to have the interior completely changed to black because I think it looks way better than the existing tan leather.

The first thing I did was re-upholster around the speakers. This was quick and cheap and only took an hour or so.

I did the same thing with the door panels. These took a lot longer, but I am extremely happy with the results.

before:

http://i.imgur.com/X6SRd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mhCPZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/npZHS.jpg

After:

http://i.imgur.com/88J6o.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/K0w5A.jpg

Han Choi
10-04-11, 12:52 PM
It was a miracle that my car even started for the first few months that I had it.
I dont know if some of you have maybe seen the post about my ignition switch a few months back, but it was basically just a cylinder full of rusted metal. None of my electrical features worked like my stereo, interior lighting, door chime, etc..

Once I replaced it all of my electrical components were fully functional once again.

this housing was a nightmare to remove.

http://i.imgur.com/DILNt.jpg

Han Choi
10-04-11, 01:25 PM
The wheels on my car are a set of 16 inch montegi's, wrapped in a set of Falken tires. In order for them to fit on the car I had to buy a set of tuner lug bolts because the heads on the stock ones were too big. I am also running a set of 1/4 inch spacers to make the stance look more aggressive. I know a lot of you hate them, but I love em!

in the box

http://i.imgur.com/DM6dn.jpg

The new wheels are 7 inches wide so it is a much tighter fit

http://i.imgur.com/Yxnxb.jpg

with tires

http://i.imgur.com/2RZ9Z.jpg

Han Choi
10-04-11, 01:33 PM
One thing that needs to happen is a new set of engine mounts. I have been putting it off for way too long, mostly because I have no one willing to help me.
:x

On the bright side I have entire new front axles including new cv joints, and tripod bearing. The mechanic that replaced it told me it would be cheaper to replace everything rather than for him to just replace the cv joints, which is what I originally wanted fixed. I would have done it myself, but my parents paid for all of it to be re-done because my mom didn't trust my mechanical ability. :x

Han Choi
10-04-11, 01:39 PM
I have always loved the airflow bumpers, and seeing as how stock bumper is cracked and battered I ordered the duraflex replica. My neighbor who works at Dupont offered to paint it for me, but he is taking forever on getting it painted. He has had it for close to a month and i haven't heard anything.

here is a frontal view

http://i.imgur.com/czFnT.jpg

Han Choi
10-04-11, 01:45 PM
The seats may have been one of the worst features of the car. They were shredded to bits, and half of the electrical functions didn't work. I was considering getting them re-upholstered, but instead I opted for these:


they should be here sometime next week.

http://i.imgur.com/MI1Rl.jpg

Han Choi
10-04-11, 04:50 PM
Starting this project thread got me very excited to go work on my car, so I went outside and painted the section of the engine bay where the battery sits with some rust proof paint. I also went to pep boys and picked up a new ac compressor belt. After around 20 minutes of wrenching I got the belt on.

http://i.imgur.com/1jkSK.jpg

new belt

http://i.imgur.com/rjHO9.jpg

B202NUT
10-04-11, 09:12 PM
you need the middle six panels now to accustom your front bumper; I have a set in my garage collecting spider poo, they are already sanded and primed, just need paint; OM me if your interested...

I was going to put them onthe N/A and decided to leave her stock; the Vert cam wit a full set of Tupperware due to it being and SE, so I no longer need the middle six panels. I am keeping the rear panels to put on the N/A to add some Aero to its aesthetics.

Why didn't you buy the rear bumper; I am sure you plan to right?

I liked the wheels when you posted them in the tuning forum but I am iffy on them mounted; I think you now have to fit out the complete Airflow to see if you did a good job on the wheels; and get some proper sports tires, those winter ones are hideous.

FYI, I padded the door fabric I put on the door trim on the N/A an honestly I think the panels look more stock without the padding. I just picked up grey microsuede for the vert door panels and they are not getting any foam behind them..

I am looking to see how the complete airflow brings out the wheels;ol;

Han Choi
10-04-11, 09:45 PM
you need the middle six panels now to accustom your front bumper; I have a set in my garage collecting spider poo, they are already sanded and primed, just need paint; OM me if your interested...

I was going to put them onthe N/A and decided to leave her stock; the Vert cam wit a full set of Tupperware due to it being and SE, so I no longer need the middle six panels. I am keeping the rear panels to put on the N/A to add some Aero to its aesthetics.

Why didn't you buy the rear bumper; I am sure you plan to right?

I liked the wheels when you posted them in the tuning forum but I am iffy on them mounted; I think you now have to fit out the complete Airflow to see if you did a good job on the wheels; and get some proper sports tires, those winter ones are hideous.

FYI, I padded the door fabric I put on the door trim on the N/A an honestly I think the panels look more stock without the padding. I just picked up grey microsuede for the vert door panels and they are not getting any foam behind them..

I am looking to see how the complete airflow brings out the wheels;ol;



The tires are all season, and I am also disappointed in how they turned out. They looked much different to me when they were not on the wheels :cry:

The reason I did not buy the back piece is because I bought the bumper off of a friend as opposed to ordering it online. He only had the front and I got a great deal on it. I wish i hadn't put foam between the fabric and the panels, but I'm not sure if I feel like ripping it apart and starting over.

I guarantee the wheels will look much better once I get the full body kit on, and hopefully a lower profile set of tires.

Han Choi
12-04-11, 07:50 PM
Here is a little something I did to my grill. I tried to mimic the color of IronJoe's

before:

http://i.imgur.com/lnbbZ.jpg

its very hard to see how it really looks in this picture

http://i.imgur.com/A7hpc.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/18u6u.jpg

Han Choi
12-04-11, 09:49 PM
It poured rain today, and to my surprise my turn signal light wouldn't shut off. It wasn't even blinking, but rather the light just stayed on even when the ignition was off. I'm pretty sure its a bad relay because the same thing happened to my rear window defrost a while back. How difficult is it to remove the knee bolster to get to the turn signal relays? Luckily I found the part online for only $11.:cheesy:

88900
20-04-11, 08:26 PM
I like the grile I've been waiting to do mine actually. Stil waiting on the bumper?

Han Choi
21-04-11, 12:31 AM
I like the grile I've been waiting to do mine actually. Stil waiting on the bumper?

Yes unfortunately :(
I told my neighbor he could take his time, but I didn't think it would take over a month. I may go over tomorrow and see whats up.

Han Choi
01-05-11, 01:44 PM
Great news! I got the bumper back and it looks amazing!!!!!!!!!! The picture does not do the paint job justice!!! The seats are also in.

http://i.imgur.com/iX6t1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Ms3AI.jpg

88saab900s
04-05-11, 03:41 PM
is that bumper the one off ebay?
this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/79-93-Saab-900-VIP-Front-Body-Kit-/400208253073?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3ASaab|Model%3A900|Submodel%3ASPG&hash=item5d2e455091)

88900
04-05-11, 04:20 PM
Yes That is the same bumper. It looks absoutly amazing he did a nice job on painting it. I am very anxious to see how it looks on your saab. I think I am deffinitly gunna get myself the front and rear bumper

88saab900s
04-05-11, 04:25 PM
would like to get myself one too, just want to see what it look like on a c900 first :lol:

SOAB
04-05-11, 05:39 PM
any pics of the seats in the car or reviews on compfort? Buddy has some similar in his NG but they were SUPER stiff and uncompfertable imo.. lovin what your doin with the car though! I always wondered what those wheels would look like on this car! Love em!

Han Choi
04-05-11, 09:37 PM
any pics of the seats in the car or reviews on compfort? Buddy has some similar in his NG but they were SUPER stiff and uncompfertable imo.. lovin what your doin with the car though! I always wondered what those wheels would look like on this car! Love em!

Thanks man;ol;! The brackets for the seats are still being fabricated at the moment, so I don't have any shots of them in the car yet. From what I can tell the seats are pretty comfortable, but if I could do it again I would have shelled out the extra money for some Corbeau's. Anything is an upgrade from my current seat situation though :)

Han Choi
09-05-11, 08:54 PM
Since I am the first person to try and attach the extreme dimensions bumper as a DIY project I figured I would do a little write up on how I did it. Let me warn you that this is certainly an all day affair, and that this is definitely not an easy task.

You will need:
dremel
drill
hex screws
sockets
screw drivers
knife
(pretty obvious stuff, just thought I'd mention it)

remove the stock bumper by removing the two hex screws on the right and the left

http://i.imgur.com/kf1xE.jpg


Remove everything until you are down to just the mounting bar and the foam padding

http://i.imgur.com/joiIz.jpg

This is the annoying part. The bumper was not made to form right to the stock foam and bracket so you are going to have to cut the foam all the way down to about an inch and a half all the way around.

This was my pile when I was done.
http://i.imgur.com/tC6NQ.jpg

Han Choi
09-05-11, 08:57 PM
I quickly realized that this was going to be a challenge when I noticed the duraflex bumper was much wider than the OEM one. After much pondering I came up with a solution. Leave the side panels on but cut them straight like I did below.

http://i.imgur.com/zo5md.jpg

This will fill in the empty space and give you a place to mount the bumper!! We just killed 2 birds with one stone!!;ol;

Han Choi
09-05-11, 09:03 PM
Get someone to help you mount the new bumper on the foam to continuously check to see if you have cut enough off. Once you have it snug, but not too snug, drill a hole through both the new and old bumper. Be sure to have someone hold it still, as you only get one shot at this to line them up. Insert your hex screws and you are done!!

http://i.imgur.com/xmmQo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pJkYw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/w9irn.jpg

It was very hot out today as you can see :cheesy:

http://i.imgur.com/ROZkB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5qmmR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/K3JFD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zegxw.jpg

Han Choi
09-05-11, 09:08 PM
There was a lot of trial and error as the day went on. There were also moments of panic when the bumper wouldn't line up like it was supposed to. I am very happy with the outcome, and hope that this helped someone. There are definitely better ways of doing this, but I guarantee most of them will cost you an installation fee :cheesy:

88saab900s
09-05-11, 09:44 PM
not bad for the bumper install, might have to grab one for myself, now seeing a how to process of doing so.

Han Choi
09-05-11, 10:58 PM
not bad for the bumper install, might have to grab one for myself, now seeing a how to process of doing so.

I was a little disappointed about the width of the bumper. There is about a 1/2 inch gap between the car and the sides that doesn't show up in the pictures. I would like it to be flush, but this was about as good as I could get it.

88900
10-05-11, 09:17 PM
I love it. It looks amazing. I am deffinatly getting them now. And refering to your post for the install. Try some foam weather strip for the gap? I know people use for the 6panels and is what I'm gunna be doing

88saab900s
10-05-11, 09:25 PM
double sided tape ;ol;

Han Choi
19-05-11, 01:22 PM
ok so i've got bad news on the seats. The bottom line is they are not gonna work out:( I have decided to sell them to my friend for his eagle talon because they are actually compatible with his car. I will now be sorting out the electrical problems with my current seats, and once that is done I am going to have them completely redone professionally. :cheesy:

borderwave2
26-05-11, 09:26 PM
you need spg tupperware for the side skirts. I don't mean to sound rude, but it looks awful when you have a performance bumper, and nothing else. Also, the truck like wheel gap in the front takes away any illusion of sportiness the front bumper might give off.

Saying this as a fellow na owner, I like where you're going with this, but slow your roll with the body kit and stuff and do something useful, like replace the 20 or so year old shocks your're probably riding on.

B202NUT
26-05-11, 10:35 PM
you need spg tupperware for the side skirts. I don't mean to sound rude, but it looks awful when you have a performance bumper, and nothing else..

I mentioned the same thing; even offerd the ones I had for sale:cry:


Saying this as a fellow na owner, I like where you're going with this, but slow your roll with the body kit and stuff and do something useful, like replace the 20 or so year old shocks your're probably riding on.

not only replace but get lower SPG size (11mm) to get rid of some of the clearance; the NA has the tallest springs of all models. I have SPG front a rear spings in the garage going in when I switch to the directional wheels.

I took the Aeros off my NA and I realize they were too big of a wheel for that car IMHO. I have the 15' SPG wheels from the vert sitting on the NA and the car looks 100% better with the smaller wheels. my local Indy Saab mechanic has a 9000 sitting on his lot with directional wheels and he is trading me the SPG wheels for the directional as an even trade; I think I am winning as the directionals are clearly a later style wheel and does better for the asthetics of the NA than the SPG wheels.

Chan Hoi, you have the best color Saab any enthusiast can own; IMHO Black and tan is truly the ultimate color combo. Your car needs a good buff, polish, glaze, and wax... And rememebr you dont have a turbo underhood, keep the car lite in the pants. An NA should be crisp and clean; look at borderwaves car; I dont think it gets much better; except a vert NA in black :)

Han Choi
27-05-11, 12:54 AM
Ok i get what you guys are saying. Springs and shocks are on the list, but only after I get my exhaust re-done before inspection. I also hate the current ride height I just never mentioned it on here.

B202NUT- I really wanted the spg panels, I just couldn't buy them when you offered, and I knew you were not holding on to them for very long. I will be getting them in the near future though, I just need time. I'm assuming you don't have them anymore?

Han Choi
27-05-11, 01:02 AM
btw Intrax or Kilen? I want to do this car the right way. I'm trying to take everything you guys tell me not as insulting, but rather guiding.

Springs and shocks are coming soon now that I'm on summer break. I promise.

I also need fog lights, so if anyone has any recommendations let me know. I was going to go with Bosch.

B202NUT
27-05-11, 07:41 PM
btw Intrax or Kilen? I want to do this car the right way. I'm trying to take everything you guys tell me not as insulting, but rather guiding.

Springs and shocks are coming soon now that I'm on summer break. I promise.

I also need fog lights, so if anyone has any recommendations let me know. I was going to go with Bosch.


your not doing anything wrong just proritize your upgrades; mechanical 1st cosmetics later. I would rather have my Saab run like a sewing machine and look like crap than the other way around!

No one can tell you whats right or wrong but there are pratical approaches to everything :)

Trollhättan Bil
27-05-11, 09:11 PM
Nigh-iccceeee! looking classic 'vert, Han Choi, and props to you for the Jeet Kune Do/Jeet Kuen Do/Bruce Lee reference (you're ahead of the game for knowing that bit alone!!).

borderwave2
29-05-11, 12:16 PM
inspiration bro.http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa332/B202NUT/100_3018.jpg?t=1291866813

88saab900s
29-05-11, 02:58 PM
fog lights... got to walmart, they have a big pair that looks like the stock fogs that come with the car, wire them into the factory wires and should be a direct drop in.

Springs and shocks.... how low do you want to go is the question... I have lowering springs and bilstein shocks all around with new bushings too, top of the tires are tucked in the wheel wells. Do this and your handling will be 100X better and will fix that ride hight. ;ol;

http://www.saabperformanceparts.com/item192.htm <--- springs
http://www.saabperformanceparts.com/cat29_1.htm <--- shocks

Han Choi
29-05-11, 09:18 PM
fog lights... got to walmart, they have a big pair that looks like the stock fogs that come with the car, wire them into the factory wires and should be a direct drop in.

Springs and shocks.... how low do you want to go is the question... I have lowering springs and bilstein shocks all around with new bushings too, top of the tires are tucked in the wheel wells. Do this and your handling will be 100X better and will fix that ride hight. ;ol;

http://www.saabperformanceparts.com/item192.htm <--- springs
http://www.saabperformanceparts.com/cat29_1.htm <--- shocks

As low as I can get :cheesy:. Your ride height sounds like where i wanna be. I'm gonna take a trip to walmart tomorrow then ;ol;

Han Choi
29-05-11, 09:25 PM
inspiration bro.http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa332/B202NUT/100_3018.jpg?t=1291866813

SO CLEAN :o

Han Choi
29-05-11, 09:29 PM
So I just ordered a bottle of Fiebings black leather dye, and I picked up an entire new seat for 20 bucks ;ol;! Now I have to fix my twisted seat problem and soon my interior will be changed to black.

B202NUT
29-05-11, 11:34 PM
So I just ordered a bottle of Fiebings black leather dye, and I picked up an entire new seat for 20 bucks ;ol;! Now I have to fix my twisted seat problem and soon my interior will be changed to black.

look at the pics in my vert thread; fixing the twisted seat is way up on the easy list.