I'm sure most of you have seen this car and the pdf write up about it but but if you haven't check out this youtube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-71YSfdRBA&feature=PlayList&p=5682068E17490488&index=29

very, very sick engine setup!

JT

Sounds powerful. Where are the stats from the dyno run and what bits are under the hood?

Sounds nice but toooooo much lag for my taste..... I like my tq down low.

That car is improperly strapped down. Theyre damn lucky things didnt go very very wrong.

I love that suspension setup... looks amazing and very low

Ohh ya and it sounds like a beast as well...

Sounds nice but toooooo much lag for my taste..... I like my tq down low.

LOL at too much lag. its a 600+bhp setup, going well above stock redline.

if i recall it was purpose built as a racecar for standing miles, its vigges project toy.

Yeah..

and people who say something about too much lag have never felt much more than 300bhp. Not kidding, it's definitely not something to complain about. You can't have your turbo show full boost at 2000rpm and then have 350++lb.ft.

LOL at too much lag. its a 600+bhp setup, going well above stock redline.

if i recall it was purpose built as a racecar for standing miles, its vigges project toy.

It was strictly an opinion of personal preference, not a cut on the car. The car sounds awesome!!! I’ve owned some high reving toys in my past including RX7’s built for the 1/8 and ¼’s and many growling v8’s. My “style” for a driver is to have it come in low and not rev. Our cars ARE awesome! Whether putting out 600+hp at higher revs or pushing over 300lb/ft wtq below 4K (mine). Regardless, when "purpose" built to suit ones needs and personal taste they are a marque that will surprise outsiders.
Vigge, JZW, Comtrag, Christian, Eric, Nick, and many more are pushing these cars to points that command that they be noticed. It is an awesome feeling to be part of the expierience regardless of what stage of tune our personal rides, disposable cash or taste take us!

That car is improperly strapped down. Theyre damn lucky things didnt go very very wrong.
seems the straps hold up!
Anyway, this is why Maptun use rottotest :cheesy:

seems the straps hold up!
Hence the lucky part. Whether they held up or not does not mean it was done right.

At almost 8400 rpm's and over 600 hp I would hate to see that go flying off the dyno...death to a bad @#$ car quick! And maybe the shop tech too!

I've seen a few vids on youtube where the car comes free during pulls on a dyno, all got really lucky. It's hard to even think about straps when you hear that baby roar!!:o

JT

IF its Vigges project, then I remember hearing that it had been in an Estonian one mile race, and if I remember correctly, it ran 299km/h
Another 9-5 did 305km/h(with a 200000(KM) stock gearbox) and a modified viper did 311.

That sounds familiar, I think one of the runs from last year. I think the plan was to go 200mph this time around, but I could be wrong..

Would be my joined project car and last years dynorun in the video.
A new one from same place may be filmed later today;)

That sounds familiar, I think one of the runs from last year. I think the plan was to go 200mph this time around, but I could be wrong..

The Estonia race was the second last of last year and the car trapped there 297km/h. In last race it did manage 308km/h for standing mile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df_zLHZKe_M

Last year was last year and new toys to play with now and registy for the engine located even higher (planned for 6k-9k+ rpm)
http://www.garaget.org/video/ymq1jrg9wdze

If anyone wonders why the rpm registy is this high there is a simple answer, you cannot have it all, i.e. spool at 3k rpm and peak power at 8.5k rpm, since a small displacenment single tbo engine does roughly have 3k rpm span where it operates well. Also the lower the rpm span is located the higher the tq will need to be to make certain amount of power and there is a "limit" how much of it you can dig from a 2l and also how much of it the drivetrain can take.


That car is improperly strapped down. Theyre damn lucky things didnt go very very wrong.
In case you did not notice there are six straps holidng the car in place and it would not have "walked" even if 2-3 of them would have failed.....

Vigge,

I really like the tribute write-up you did on the engine build. Well done bro and the pics or inspiring. We're all not really that far from the mosnter are we?

JT

In last race it did manage 308km/h for standing mile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df_zLHZKe_M


I will have a smile the rest of the day, maybe even week after watching this.........

In last race it did manage 308km/h for standing mile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df_zLHZKe_M


I will have a smile the rest of the day, maybe even week after watching this.........

X2
That's what dreams are made of, won't be a very productive day now...that motor sound would be the best ring tone, door bell or alarm clock on the planet!:cheesy:

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!1:cool:

JT

In case you did not notice there are six straps holidng the car in place and it would not have "walked" even if 2-3 of them would have failed.....

You could have 600 and it wouldnt matter. Fact of the matter is that they are improperly placed for a vehicle of that power.

There is no frontal cross-strapping, and the tow hook is not a particularly sturdy piece.

Last year was last year and new toys to play with now and registy for the engine located even higher (planned for 6k-9k+ rpm)
http://www.garaget.org/video/ymq1jrg9wdze
Also the lower the rpm span is located the higher the tq will need to be to make certain amount of power and there is a "limit" how much of it you can dig from a 2l and also how much of it the drivetrain can take.


Yeah, don't remind me.

I saw all the data you posted on TSL, looks good! I'd love to get EGT AND o2 but it seems like I'm limited to either/or with T5suite unless I pick up something else to do it externally.

In that video, sounds like you're still running sans bypass valve? I'm assuming the new Holset will take the beating just as well as the Super 40?

Yeah, don't remind me.

I saw all the data you posted on TSL, looks good! I'd love to get EGT AND o2 but it seems like I'm limited to either/or with T5suite unless I pick up something else to do it externally.

In that video, sounds like you're still running sans bypass valve? I'm assuming the new Holset will take the beating just as well as the Super 40?
The blue car has newer had a BOV nor is there one installed with the new set-up either.

You could have 600 and it wouldnt matter. Fact of the matter is that they are improperly placed for a vehicle of that power.

There is no frontal cross-strapping, and the tow hook is not a particularly sturdy piece.

Happy now, 10+ straps holding the car down this time
http://www.garaget.org/video/eq9ax6q5n2wt

High rpm range did not work out yet, but new try tomorrow. With additional goodies http://www.stcf.net/ProjectX/Imari/ and tweeks. Lets see what it pushes out.

Again, you could have 10,000 straps. Overkill doesnt make it any better when its still done incorrectly. The front should absolutely be cross-strapped, which it is not.

The blue car has newer had a BOV nor is there one installed with the new set-up either.

Yeah I remember the discussion a couple months back about that.. sounds more lethal than a bov anyway and if you say this way has proved better, I'll take your word for it.

Again, you could have 10,000 straps. Overkill doesnt make it any better when its still done incorrectly. The front should absolutely be cross-strapped, which it is not.
Could you babble what do you think one will achieve by cross strapping the front, compared to how it is tied down in this video.... There are two lines pulling the car sideways at differenct angles on each side and one pari pulling forward, so I dont really get how you get this set-up to be from the rear when compared to a normal two-line cross strap. AFAIK the cross starpping is used to get more side pulling force when tiedown connector point are almost in front of the car, nothing else, but as said please alaborate your case.
What you see at 1min time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUbfwOu2O1I in this video will can newer take place the way I tie my car down, try to undertand that ;)

The sound you hear is the turbo being fed by a monster running at over 8000 rpms. With my full 3" from the filter to the TDO4 turbo I get the same sound just quieter. Almost sounds like a dual piston BOV.

JT

The sound you hear is the turbo being fed by a monster running at over 8000 rpms. With my full 3" from the filter to the TDO4 turbo I get the same sound just quieter. Almost sounds like a dual piston BOV.

JT

? We're referring to after throttle plate is closed. Vigge isn't utilizing a bypass valve.

Drunk post.

Could you babble what do you think one will achieve by cross strapping the front, compared to how it is tied down in this video.... There are two lines pulling the car sideways at different angles on each side and one pair pulling forward, so I dont really get how you get this set-up to be from the rear when compared to a normal two-line cross strap. AFAIK the cross strapping is used to get more side pulling force when tie-down connector point are almost in front of the car, nothing else, but as said please elaborate your case.
What you see at 1min time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUbfwOu2O1I in this video will can newer take place the way I tie my car down, try to understand that ;)
What you are doing is pulling the car in two opposite directions away from each other. Cross strapping pulls in two opposite directions as well, this is obvious. But the very nature of the triangulated security of cross-strapping is more secure. Rather than just fighting each other, the straps work to further stabilize the vehicle. Especially with the Saab front suspension, cross-strapping also keeps high tension loads from damaging important components as well.