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gorillajin
27th January 2009, 11:52 PM
Hello,

I am searching for a small car, and I would like to ask some info from you guys.
I am interested in HONDA CRX SI, which is really cute and small. No ABS and PS though.
Since I do not know that much about other small cars, please give me a name and reason of the cars that you recommend!!

I chose CRX SI because,

It's small, good gas mileage, decent reliability, stylish, and easy to mod.

Please help me to find other small cars under $2500!!!!
Thank you!

BZach9-3
28th January 2009, 12:59 PM
You could look into an mx5 miata. You can get one that's two generations old or so for that price. I think they have little 1.4 or 1.6 L engines, bound to be good on gas.

SaabKen
28th January 2009, 01:17 PM
So your criteria are:

small
good gas mileage
decent reliability
stylish
easy to mod
under $2500!!!!

What about:

hatchback vs. coupe (2-dr) vs. sedan
import or domestic
engine size
maximum age of car
Lots of choices out there. The more you can specify, the easier it'll be to narrow down.

euromobile900
28th January 2009, 01:57 PM
I really like the idea of a CRX. No power steering and no ABS actually seem like a good thing to me, but I am a C900 driver. Lots less to go wrong, and a purer driving experience, in my opinion. My dad owned and worked on a Civic like that, and it simply refused to die. Manual steering, manual brakes, manual gearbox (the long throws on the early model 4-speed were so sexy :cheesy: ). Anyway, that platform is what I learned to drive on (albeit a lowly Civic), and I can say that it doesn't handle as well as a C900, but it's more fun than a barrel of monkeys and has stellar reliability.

Miatas are nice, but they are less practical than a CRX. Are you looking for something RWD or FWD? If you want more of a "toy" than the CRX, you should look into a Civic Del Sol, basically a CRX with targa top.

A good RWD car might be the old generation Toyota MR2. Nowhere else will you find a mid-mounted small Japanese engine. It was, by most accounts, a great car, in all three generations, but my ricer friends (yes, I will admit I have some) prefer the old ones for modding. The second-gen MR2 was still quite good, and probably more available. Comes with a bigger engine though. The critics say the third-gen MR2 was the best handling, but lacked in power.

SaabKen
28th January 2009, 03:12 PM
The T200-series Celica (1994-1999) were fun little cars:

http://www.parkovka.info/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/celica_gt_four.jpg

And the 3rd-gen Acura Integra (1994-2001)

http://www.wgcfloridaimports.com/images/fullsizecars/integra_97_silver_ls_Palm.jpg

Assuming you want FWD (as in the CRX). These are quite dependable, easily tuned, and lots to choose from (ie: competitive prices). They're not technically compact like the CRX but do accommodate 4 people (CRX only 2) so they are more practical in that regard and more relaxing to drive for long haul trips on the highway.

Another one is Mazda MX-3/Precidia (1991-1998), an interesting car as the top trim offered the smallest production V6 (1.8L), the only engine I would consider:

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/images/93mx-3gs.jpg

Or the Protege5 (successor of 323, precessor of current 3). Best if you can find the special MP3 sports version

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/MazdaProtege5/Images/LeftFront.jpg

900t
28th January 2009, 04:44 PM
In California I guess CRX still exist. In here they went to the scrap 10 years ago because they rusted like hell and the tuner kids snapped them up and hit things but because of the rust the results were not pretty

I sure as hell wouldn't pay 2 500 for one I mean hell the car was like 9 000 brand new :lol:

ViggenNY
28th January 2009, 05:13 PM
Miatas are good. They have 1.6l or 1.8l engines. They are rwd and convertible which are both good in my book. Mr2's are also good, my brother has a turbo 86 but it is always causing problems ( probably because it's turbo).

SaabKen
28th January 2009, 06:36 PM
RWD ? 1.8L ? I've always had a soft spot for these (318ti). Hatchback too :)

http://www.bmwism.com/all_bmw/e36_5_bmw_compact_rear_view.jpg

turbosupra12
28th January 2009, 06:44 PM
Get a ford escort gt. 2 door, same 1.8l Mazda BP as the early miata's. 2 door, cheap, good on gas, FWD.. and cheap. And, if you want to mod, there are parts... and no one expects it.

Shares the chassis with the 90-94 protege, and the mx3.. lots of interchangeable parts, and parts are very cheap, and very available.
http://mlav.com/car/escortgt/090806/8.jpg

Great cars. I'd rather this than an MX3 (and BTW, the 1.8 v6?? no way. the 1.8 BP is a WAY better motor)

oh -. this car is almost completely mazda, with ford badging.

gorillajin
29th January 2009, 12:59 AM
thank you for the inputs!!!

i think i might try 2nd gen MR2 since it's unique mid ship engine and rwd. i don't know about the reliability though. is it really reliable like honda??

how about rx-7?? rotary engine is pretty unique, but i heard that the gas milage is really bad. any experience with rotary engine??

turbosupra12
29th January 2009, 08:31 AM
not sure if u can find a good condition 2nd gen mr2 for under 2500. i know not around here. u can find a 1st gen, but they look like ***.

also if u want reliable i wouldn't get an rx7. i've never had one, but i've heard they're not the most reliable car out there.

SaabKen
29th January 2009, 02:10 PM
also if u want reliable i wouldn't get an rx7. i've never had one, but i've heard they're not the most reliable car out there.

Not to mention unreliable, leaky apex seals (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/rotary-engine2.htm)

justyjust
29th January 2009, 08:48 PM
heres a cheap small car eco friendly.
http://www.diecastcars.tv/images/S1043.bmp

SaabKen
29th January 2009, 09:05 PM
heres a cheap small car eco friendly.
http://www.diecastcars.tv/images/S1043.bmp

Quite difficult to get in and out of .....

toplessFC3Sman
29th January 2009, 09:13 PM
The 2nd gen (FC) RX-7's are actually very reliable as long as they've been taken care of, and the normally aspirated models will easily do 150k - 200k miles before needing an engine rebuild. Turbos are much more sensitive to maintenance, and are more likely to have had a P.O. mod it without really knowing what they were doing. They'd probably be out of your price range anyway, but well taken care of, the 2nd gen turbos will do at least 125k before needing a rebuild. As for fuel economy, I'd see about 18 mpg around town and 23-24 on the highway from my modified turbo convertible (heaviest body, least aerodynamic), with a max of 27. NA coupes can touch 29 or so mpg highway if driven carefully, and 22 in town.

Most of the "unreliable rotary" things are from the 3rd gens (FD). They are still a very impressive car, but packing the rotary engine which naturally produces a lot of heat plus two turbos under a very small hood with lots of vacuum lines, and there are bound to be problems after a while. These are definitely over $2500 though.

lowbudgethero
29th January 2009, 10:48 PM
thank you for the inputs!!!

i think i might try 2nd gen MR2 since it's unique mid ship engine and rwd. i don't know about the reliability though. is it really reliable like honda??

how about rx-7?? rotary engine is pretty unique, but i heard that the gas milage is really bad. any experience with rotary engine??

I would go with a naturally aspirated 2nd gen MR2 I was actually going to get one for $2500 until the person who was going to sell it told me he bent the strut hitting a big pot hole. Definitly a fun car to drive. Fate led me to the saab though.

gorillajin
30th January 2009, 01:16 AM
thank you for the all the good info and inputs!

i used to drive 88 rx-7, well it was my first car ever, and i don't really remember the MPG, or reliability of it, lol. Back then, i had no interests to cars... it was really a fun car to drive though. i also had integra gsr, and i love the vtec engine. it's so well made i just love the engine so much.
now, mr2...i want to buy a turbo if i will buy mr2, but yes, my price range is pretty cheap so i don't think i can buy turbo one....

so, NA mr2 is still fun to drive??? the only differences between NA and turbo MR2 are the engine?

Cuba
30th January 2009, 02:12 AM
Fiat 500 Abarth :cool:

http://www.cars-wallpapers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/fiat-500-abarth.jpg