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: 1986 Saab 900S Project


jljhlhl
13th November 2007, 06:49 PM
Im 15 years old and am getting my first car together for when I'm 16 and can get my license. Im mainly posting the pictures here so I can personally see before/after/progress shots, but everyone else can see them too.

The main car I have is a 1986 900S Notchback, it was my dad's friend car before he smashed it up a bit and bent a few things. Picked it up real cheap, and we have the availabilty to fix it all back up.

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jljhlhl
13th November 2007, 06:51 PM
More pictures

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jljhlhl
13th November 2007, 06:53 PM
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To get parts for this car, I was mainly looking on ebay, and had been to the auto wrecker a couple of times. My dad was then at the wrecker just the other day for a completely unrelated car, and he came across a 1986 Saab 900 Turbo Hatchback, the complete running car for sale, for cheap. He picked it up and brought it back to the shop.

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jljhlhl
13th November 2007, 06:54 PM
Few more pics!

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jljhlhl
13th November 2007, 06:55 PM
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So, even though the hatchback is in better shape, I personally like the other car better, so we are fixing the body work on the white car, painting the car black (possibly) and then putting the engine/tranny from the hatchback as well as the complete interior (the interior is beautiful - the rear seats look barely used and when the front seat covers are pulled back, beautiful) into the main car.

These are the current plans, we'll see how they go, haha.

watson
13th November 2007, 08:58 PM
What a great project and opportunity, good luck you are going to learn a lot.

There are lots of great information and advice on this board for those times you get stuck and great people too.

jglavin
13th November 2007, 10:44 PM
Nice finds! I'm sure we'll all keep an eye on this one :D

Lucky guy, gets to turbo a notch as his first car... I'm jealous! You'll never look at "normal" cars the same again.

NSE
13th November 2007, 11:12 PM
Cool project. You're lucky to have a Saab as your 1st car. Mine was a '79 AMC Pacer. :lol:


You should join the Saab Club of Western Canada too, if you haven't already. http://http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/SCWC_list/

Most of us are from B.C. but there are atleast a couple guys in Calgary. I believe Wayne in Calgary also has a notch back. He was contemplating put a 16v turbo motor in it, not sure if he ever did it though.

jljhlhl
13th November 2007, 11:24 PM
Just joined that group - thanks for letting me know about it.

I've talked to Rob from Vancouver on eBay - bought a pair of end caps from him, and then met Hugh from Calgary - bought a pair of headlights from him. Both very nice people.

Pap
14th November 2007, 01:35 AM
Is the Turbo really in that bad of shape? I would want to get that one going out of the two if I were you. CoooooL though, I got my first car not too long ago too, 1985 turbo 16v.

VikingSpirit
14th November 2007, 04:50 AM
If you are set on working with the white 2 door, my advice to you would be to do as much work to the 2 door as you can before you start stripping the hatchback apart.

Strip down and paint the 2 door shell first, make sure there are no hidden suprises with the 2 door car before you destroy a working hatchback. That way if something does go wrong (and trust me stuff does, e.g. finding unexpected rust or running out of money!) you still have one working car rather than two cars in bits. :lol:

You could even swap bits between cars to keep them both alive, so put the NA engine and the blue interior from the 2 door back into the hatchback. You can then sell it on and make some money back to buy go faster bits:D

saabismi
14th November 2007, 09:11 AM
Wow...Just...WOW..I hate u:lol:In a good, envy way:DUr One year older then me and u have a C900 turbo:D

I personaly like sedans more then hatchbacks too but as said before put the sedans parts on the hatchback and sell it off...that way there wont be less c900 in the world:D

EDIT:could you do a pic of that "ding" in the rear panel?

kemosaabey
14th November 2007, 09:26 AM
the hatch looks in MUCH better shape, i'd go for that....

philb
14th November 2007, 09:41 AM
Hatch looks in waay better condition. In my opinion, the notchback does not look great, especially in standard trim. How much will it cost you to paint it? You can brace the hatch with a bar between the two rear wheelarches.

jljhlhl
14th November 2007, 09:59 AM
Pap - both cars are in running shape, its just that the notchback has body damage and the front steering components need to be fixed (still havent quite looked at whats wrong, but it shouldnt be too major). The turbo hatchback's interior is very nice, no tears or rips in the seats or anything, never been smoked in, etc.

Viking Spirit - Thats actually what we are doing, for your exact reason. Over the weekend I took the seats and door panels off, and a few other interior trim pieces. We're going to completely gut the interior first to make it easier to paint, and so that we have an easier time with those unexpected surprises. So pretty much we're taking all the stuff out of the notchback first, since most of it is in lesser condition than the hatchback, that way if we do mess up with something, we'll only be wrecking the bad stuff. :lol:


We were considering putting all the blue interior as well was the non-turbo mechanical back into the hatchback, but really, some parts of it are in pretty bad shape, the interior is pretty much shot, so we'll just be parting out the stuff in good shape and selling it on ebay, so maybe some of you guys can pick up a part you've been needing.

And even though the hatch IS in better condition, it does still need a little bit of work - nothing to the extent we're making it need, but overall, I think transferring all the stuff into the notchback will be worth it. Depending on how it all works out, I'll then be tweaking things here and there, and hopefully putting those aero ground effects (I think thats what you call them) on the car.

Heres a picture of the dent in the rear. We're going to try to pull it out first to see how bad it is, and if that doesnt work we'll be cutting and welding a different one on. As for painting, my dad's done it a few times on his racecar and it turned out really nice, so he's going to give this a try. If its not perfect, its a 20 year old car so not a big deal, or we'll get an estimate on a professional paint shop to do it.

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saabismi
14th November 2007, 10:39 AM
Il be keeping an eye on this thread:Dlooks intresting to me.
Oh and BTW be shure to find and add a bridgespoiler on the Trunk....wait...what year aero bodykit are you thinking of putting on?a pre 87 or 87 and later models kit?

jljhlhl
14th November 2007, 06:22 PM
I'm keeping my eye out for a bridge spoiler - but its not my top priority currently.


As for the bodykit, I'm not entirely sure if I'd do it, a lot of this comes down to price because I'm a new driver...but what's the difference between the 2?

saabchilten
14th November 2007, 11:53 PM
i envy you so. i've been on here since i was fourteen (secret's out! :o ), and my parents still won't let me change the oil even in my chevy. good luck with the car. depending on what i get, i might be talking hte ng900 moderators into adding a project page. ;)

jglavin
15th November 2007, 12:05 AM
As for the bodykit, I'm not entirely sure if I'd do it, a lot of this comes down to price because I'm a new driver...but what's the difference between the 2?
Mainly the front and rear bumpers.

Quick Google Image Search yielded these:
1986 SPG:
http://home.swipnet.se/danny/900SPG.jpg

Later model SPG:
http://www.trollhattansaab.net/images/60th/W90HV_SB002L.jpg


As far as I can tell, the parts between the bumpers on either side are largely similar. I guess the newer bumpers are more crash-friendly, or something... personally I prefer the older-style look...

Maybe someone else can elaborate on the details of the bodykit.

woywitka
15th November 2007, 01:24 AM
The hatch is the car to keep.

The notch is cool; however, that is a far bit of damage. The hatch is much nicer to throw skis in and go camping. I have many forms of 900s, the best is the hatch hands down! I have a Convertible now and the boot sucks!

My suggestion: Swap the interior from the notch, unless you like red:lol: The notch interior looks great and will fit the hatch without trouble. If you need any parts from broken stuff you encounter ect. that you can't find locally PM me. My Saab mechanic has a museum of Saab parts and I can hook you up.

You would be surprised how taking out thoes carpets, giving them a good scrub and they will come out looking fantastic!

Nice looking cars!

Boosted
15th November 2007, 02:53 PM
You want to definitely fix the notchback since they are so rare. Also they are the stiffest and lightest 900.

VikingSpirit
16th November 2007, 04:36 AM
To be honest I think it boils down to personal taste, don't go with the hatchback just cos its better condition, go with the one you WANT. No point putting all that work in if when you finished its not what you want.

Its odd really, I think most europeans will almost certainly tell you the hatchback is the better looking car, whereas the the 2 door is more appealing to american eyes, which is ironic as they sold very few 2 doors in north america.

Because you are in the US, the notchback is definitely the rarer of the 2 cars, and none of them had turbos. By putting a turbo into a notchback you will be creating a car thats almost unique.:cool:

Plus the 2 door can still carry a load, the rear seats fold down same as the hatcbach, so skis and surfboards will probably still fit, just tall stuff becomes awkward cos of the rear screen.

Good luck with it!:D

jljhlhl
16th November 2007, 05:37 PM
The notch is by far my personal favourite. I'm actually in Canada, and I rarely see ANY old 900's running around. It seems like BC gets them all. :lol:

Like you say, when the rear seats are folded down it really does give a lot of room, I was quite surprised.

The interior is now pretty close to being gutted, and then we'll go from there. We're planning on doing to engine swap over Christmas when the shop is closed down and I'm out of school, so we got a week or 2 to work with and get it done with everything always fresh in our minds.

Regin
5th December 2007, 04:47 PM
You want to definitely fix the notchback since they are so rare. Also they are the stiffest and lightest 900.

I just love the way you write that stuff about the "notchback":o (don't think i'll get use to that "nick" :D )

Regin
5th December 2007, 04:51 PM
The notch is by far my personal favourite. I'm actually in Canada, and I rarely see ANY old 900's running around. It seems like BC gets them all. :lol:

Like you say, when the rear seats are folded down it really does give a lot of room, I was quite surprised.

The interior is now pretty close to being gutted, and then we'll go from there. We're planning on doing to engine swap over Christmas when the shop is closed down and I'm out of school, so we got a week or 2 to work with and get it done with everything always fresh in our minds.

Do the thing with the 900s and you get a car like mine - almost - don't have the red dashboard that will be a "beuaty" in time :p

saabismi
23rd March 2008, 10:31 AM
Any progress?its been quiet lately....

jljhlhl
23rd March 2008, 12:35 PM
Its been really slow going, haha. I got the notchback almost all taken apart - the engine is pretty much ready to be pulled out, but we've just been too busy to be working on it at the moment. Once its taken out, the bit of body work still needs to be done, and we were offered a paint booth from a friend, and off it will go to there.

Taking apart the hatchback should be easier since we now know where all the bolts are, and the order things need to come out in...(the pad under the dashboard had us stumped, of all things. :roll:). And then the putting back together fun will begin.

I do have a few updated pictures, but its really nothing, considering its just an empty metal shell with wires everywere. :p

Hopefully we'll get back to work on it and then will actually see some progress. I cant wait until it gets painted. ;)